Hezbollah "Victory Rally"

farfromglorified

jlew24asu wrote:

I understand your point. on the surface it sounds all well and good. but would you have done with the nazi's?

Stop comparing two very different situations as if they were the same. If you're asking me what would I have done with Hitler in 1939, I'd say bomb him. If you're asking me what would I have done with Hitler in 1929, I'd say undercut his support.

people like hilter and Osama cant be dealt with any other way except with bombs. i dont like the reality of it but it seems to be true

Osama is not Hitler. Bin Laden does not have a nation-state nor does he have a base of operation. Furthermore, he is not a commander. His is a fool, drunk on a corrupt and contradictory ideology and his only power is found in the influence of that ideology. Hitler's power was found in the might of his machinery which was used to enforce his corrupt ideology on the world. Their weapons are different -- yours should be too.

FinsburyParkCarrots

Cosmo wrote:

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The way to run this is to do this:
You know who they are... just follow the sonsabitches home and when they load up the Toyota pickup with the mortar... a Predator uncorks a Hellfire **BOOM**.
Time for another Taliban funeral and another target.

I know you're being sardonic, but if this were actually a plan, just think: they'd start having public funerals in civilian areas, surrounded by women and children. What then?

even flow?

jlew24asu wrote:

I understand your point. on the surface it sounds all well and good. but would you have done with the nazi's? people like hilter and Osama cant be dealt with any other way except with bombs. i dont like the reality of it but it seems to be true

Now to watch the crying start. Who is to say that Hitler's plan was all that bad. Since we want to talk big and tough about killing people! Maybe the Jewish people should have been dealt with and the only people who don't think that way are Jews. Then there would be no problem in the middle east. Ah yes we all have our ways to solve these problems and that may have very well be one of the best. You know just like the people you want to kill now. Easy pickings when you keep up the lets kill a certain people. Very easy pickings.

Cosmo

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

I know you're being sardonic, but if this were actually a plan, just think: they'd start having public funerals in civilian areas, surrounded by women and children. What then?

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Well, the thing that caught my attention was the phrase, "Known Taliban". If they already KNOW who this guy is... and they KNOW he was at the funeral... then why not FOLLOW him?
Those Predator drones can remain airborne for a long, long time. If need be, relieve the initial aircraft with a secondary. Do we only have one Predator on site? If this target is so important, then why not deploy as many resources as possible to get him? I mean, we are pouring hundreds of billions of dollars into that shit... we can't get a couple of Delta Operatives to keep him under watch?
Follow him home... keep an eye on his movements and when the time is right... take him out.

jsand

even flow? wrote:

Now to watch the crying start. Who is to say that Hitler's plan was all that bad. Since we want to talk big and tough about killing people! Maybe the Jewish people should have been dealt with and the only people who don't think that way are Jews. Then there would be no problem in the middle east. Ah yes we all have our ways to solve these problems and that may have very well be one of the best. You know just like the people you want to kill now. Easy pickings when you keep up the lets kill a certain people. Very easy pickings.

Hitler wanted to kill Jews because they were Jews. No one is saying to indiscriminately kill Arabs. Arab terrorists, on the other hand, should be killed.

It's comforting to know that you would have volunteered for the Hitler youth.

Cosmo

even flow? wrote:

Now to watch the crying start. Who is to say that Hitler's plan was all that bad. Since we want to talk big and tough about killing people! Maybe the Jewish people should have been dealt with and the only people who don't think that way are Jews. Then there would be no problem in the middle east. Ah yes we all have our ways to solve these problems and that may have very well be one of the best. You know just like the people you want to kill now. Easy pickings when you keep up the lets kill a certain people. Very easy pickings.

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I see what you are saying and the correlation you are making... but...
I don't think that some of the people here will see the point and only see the surface remark made as reference and jump all over your ass.
Good luck with that.

even flow?

jsand wrote:

Hitler wanted to kill Jews because they were Jews. No one is saying to indiscriminately kill Arabs. Arab terrorists, on the other hand, should be killed.

It's comforting to know that you would have volunteered for the Hitler youth.

That is your version of the story. And since I am not Jewish I don't buy it. You know how that is. Just look at all the threads you start.

dg1979us

Cosmo wrote:

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I see what you are saying and the correlation you are making... but...
I don't think that some of the people here will see the point and only see the surface remark made as reference and jump all over your ass.
Good luck with that.

His remarks are flawed. One, I dont think any rational people are advocating to wipe out all Muslims, Persians, or Arabs. And two, I think a lot of the conflict in the middle east at this point is not simply because of Israel or the Jews. I understand what he was getting it, but it was a pretty poor comparison.

jlew24asu

even flow? wrote:

Now to watch the crying start. Who is to say that Hitler's plan was all that bad. Since we want to talk big and tough about killing people! Maybe the Jewish people should have been dealt with and the only people who don't think that way are Jews. Then there would be no problem in the middle east. Ah yes we all have our ways to solve these problems and that may have very well be one of the best. You know just like the people you want to kill now. Easy pickings when you keep up the lets kill a certain people. Very easy pickings.

I dont understand this at all. and your first sentence is not nessecary.

maybe the jewish people should have been dealt with? why, what were they doing at the time to deserve to be wiped off the planet?

jsand

jlew24asu wrote:

I dont understand this at all. and your first sentence is not nessecary.

maybe the jewish people should have been dealt with? why, what were they doing at the time to deserve to be wiped off the planet?

Don't even try to understand it. He posts shit like this a lot. It's quite pathetic, really.

FinsburyParkCarrots

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5370038.stm

News update.

Note:

"Security had been stepped up in Beirut in advance of Nasrallah's arrival. Israel had threatened to kill Nasrallah during its offensive, but an attempt to assassinate him now was considered unlikely since it would risk plunging the region back into conflict.

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert would not say in comments published Thursday whether Nasrallah remained a target. ``There is no reason for me to notify Nasrallah through the media how we will act. We will not give him advance notice. He is holding a victory march because he has lost,'' Olmert told the Israeli newspaper Maariv. "

even flow?

jlew24asu wrote:

I dont understand this at all. and your first sentence is not nessecary.

maybe the jewish people should have been dealt with? why, what were they doing at the time to deserve to be wiped off the planet?

Maybe he just started with the ones he didn't like and then found out it was a slippery slope. Kind of like going after terroists and dropping bombs on civilians. Shit happens and we all have to live with it. Those "stone age" comments bring out the best in me. See if there were nobody to make those comments, as if there were nobody to blow up themselves, the world would be a much better place. Tit for tat, eye for and eye, opinion for an opinion. Great world we live in. Especially when the view isn't like yours.

jsand

even flow? wrote:

Maybe he just started with the ones he didn't like and then found out it was a slippery slope.

Yeah, I'm sure he started out with the ones he didn't like. Did the "ones he didn't like" murder innocent German civilians because they weren't Jewish?

NMyTree

even flow? wrote:

Now to watch the crying start. Who is to say that Hitler's plan was all that bad. Since we want to talk big and tough about killing people! Maybe the Jewish people should have been dealt with and the only people who don't think that way are Jews. Then there would be no problem in the middle east. Ah yes we all have our ways to solve these problems and that may have very well be one of the best. You know just like the people you want to kill now. Easy pickings when you keep up the lets kill a certain people. Very easy pickings.

You know, there are many well-educated scholars from all over the world who believe that in the very beginning, Hitler did have a valid and legitimate gripe with the Jewish financial/corporate community.

They state that non-jewish germans were in fact purposely discriminated against, by the Jewish corporations. By refusing to hire or promote non-jewish germans for any jobs in a supervisory or management position. As well they claim non-germans were refused any kind of beneficial financial loans or opportunities, by the Jewish financial institutions. Yet Jewish people often recieved sweetheart deals which would assist them and their families to rise above.

All forms of oppression.

Obviosly Hitler took things way too far and went berzerk. But if there's any truth to these alleged accounts of social and finacial discrimination, onne could almost understand why Hitler started that whole thing.

It's a thorny bush when one advocates the murder or elimination of one group of people, over the other.

jlew24asu

even flow? wrote:

Maybe he just started with the ones he didn't like and then found out it was a slippery slope. Kind of like going after terroists and dropping bombs on civilians. Shit happens and we all have to live with it. Those "stone age" comments bring out the best in me. See if there were nobody to make those comments, as if there were nobody to blow up themselves, the world would be a much better place. Tit for tat, eye for and eye, opinion for an opinion. Great world we live in. Especially when the view isn't like yours.

hilter and el queda sympathizer? or you just like to argue

NMyTree

jsand wrote:

Don't even try to understand it. He posts shit like this a lot. It's quite pathetic, really.

It's only pathetic to you, because you're not taking the time to read deeper into his message and think outside the box.

jlew24asu

NMyTree wrote:

onne could almost understand why Hitler started that whole thing.

nope, I sure dont

jsand

NMyTree wrote:

It's only pathetic to you, because you're not taking the time to read deeper into his message and think outside the box.

There's nothing really deep about it. I guess according to you, thinking outside of the box means understanding that Hitler's actions were somewhat justified.

even flow?

NMyTree wrote:

You know, there are many well-educated scholars from all over the world who believe that in the very beginning, Hitler did have a valid and legitimate gripe with the Jewish financial/corporate community.

They state that non-jewish germans were in fact purposely discriminated against, by the Jewish corporations. By refusing to hire or promote non-jewish germans for any jobs in a supervisory or management position. As well they claim non-germans were refused any kind of beneficial financial loans or opportunities, by the Jewish financial institutions. Yet Jewish people often recieved sweetheart deals which would assist them and their families to rise above.

All forms of oppression.

Obviosly Hitler took things way too far and went berzerk. But if there's any truth to these alleged accounts of social and finacial discrimination, onne could almost understand why Hitler started that whole thing.

It's a thorny bush when one advocates the murder or elimination of one group of people, over the other.

I bring up the economy thing and it gets dismissed. You know, you only believe the history you want to. Under cut anybody's economy and welfare and not want to assimilate (gee where have we heard that before?) and sure enough a fire will be lit.

even flow?

jlew24asu wrote:

hilter and el queda sympathizer? or you just like to argue

I just don't have to read and believe your version of everything. Call it arguing all you want.