Hezbollah "Victory Rally"

FinsburyParkCarrots

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5370038.stm

I'm watching it on CNN, now. Nasrallah may speak at the rally.

Thoughts?

farfromglorified

I think referring to anything in that conflict as a "victory" speaks volumes.

dg1979us

farfromglorified wrote:

I think referring to anything in that conflict as a "victory" speaks volumes.

I have to agree. Provoking an attack that destroyed the entire infrastructure and killed many innocent people is hardly what I would consider a victory. But I dont think Hezbollah is overly concerned with Lebanon as a country anyway.

even flow?

Maybe a moral victory but looking at the country I can't say it was a victory. Now if Israel helps clean up the mess that the ocean is in, well then it could be declared a victory.

Now I like violence just as much as everybody from the middle east does. But why would you go and announce that you are holding such a rally. I mean now instead of Israel wasting all that time and effort and bombs and men. They can just drop one bomb and get on with it. Then they can say, "Oooops! That must have been one of the unexploded bombs that went off", and we can watch it all start up again.

jlew24asu

are they celebrating being blown back to the stone age? maybe they like that better

Cosmo

Fighting these guys is a No-Win situation.
You have to utterly defeat them... all they have to do is survive. Body counts mean nothing.
The only way you can claim victory against Hezbollah is by getting the death toll to 100%. And that is not going to happen. If 1% of them survive... it's a victory for them because they still exist.

jsand

I hope Israel carpet bombs that entire parade. That's what I call a target-rich environment.

FinsburyParkCarrots

jsand wrote:

I hope Israel carpet bombs that entire parade. That's what I call a target-rich environment.

But remember that Taliban funeral last week? A drone cam caught it. A military mind might conclude that that, too, was target-rich. Yet the decision was made, that any such bombing would be counter-productive, and would probably make the matter much worse.

If Israel carpet-bombed that parade, what do you think might happen?

farfromglorified

jsand wrote:

I hope Israel carpet bombs that entire parade. That's what I call a target-rich environment.

And the cycle continues...........

jlew24asu

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

But remember that Taliban funeral last week? A drone cam caught it. A military mind might conclude that that, too, was target-rich. Yet the decision was made, that any such bombing would be counter-productive, and would probably make the matter much worse.

If Israel carpet-bombed that parade, what do you think might happen?

while bombing the parade is a tad bit much, those talibans should have been taken out. I dont see how killing those extremists would have been counter productive

jsand

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

But remember that Taliban funeral last week? A drone cam caught it. A military mind might conclude that that, too, was target-rich. Yet the decision was made, that any such bombing would be counter-productive, and would probably make the matter much worse.

If Israel carpet-bombed that parade, what do you think might happen?

The decision wasn't made that the bombing would be counter-productive - the American rules of engagement prohibit such actions.

As for what would happen if Israel carpet-bombed the parade, if Nazrallah is there, it would be fantastic. The leadership would be taken out, and a massive amount of Hez would be killed.

jsand

farfromglorified wrote:

And the cycle continues...........

How is it a cycle? That organization is hell-bent on destroying Israel.

NMyTree

even flow? wrote:

But why would you go and announce that you are holding such a rally. I mean now instead of Israel wasting all that time and effort and bombs and men. They can just drop one bomb and get on with it. Then they can say, "Oooops! That must have been one of the unexploded bombs that went off", and we can watch it all start up again.

LOL...I swear I was just going to say the same thing:D

Cosmo

jsand wrote:

The leadership would be taken out, and a massive amount of Hez would be killed.

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True.
But, would that mean an end to Hezbollah? I mean, because we know that no one would join them as a result of such action, right?

jsand

Cosmo wrote:

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True.
But, would that mean an end to Hezbollah? I mean, because we know that no one would join them as a result of such action, right?

Perhaps if such a huge number of them were taken out, especially the leadership, there would be an end to Hezbollah. Probably wishful thinking, though.

farfromglorified

jsand wrote:

How is it a cycle? That organization is hell-bent on destroying Israel.

And you're hell-bent on destroying them. You're both too hate-filled to realize that your enemy is not a man but rather a mindset. And you can't bomb a mindset. But you can try. And so can they. And the cycle continues because the human death isn't solving your problems.

FinsburyParkCarrots

jsand wrote:

The decision wasn't made that the bombing would be counter-productive - the American rules of engagement prohibit such actions.

As for what would happen if Israel carpet-bombed the parade, if Nazrallah is there, it would be fantastic. The leadership would be taken out, and a massive amount of Hez would be killed.

I don't think America sticks closely to its, or anybody else's, rules of engagement, when it suits. Sure, attacking a few Taliban would have been counterproductive. At the moment, for example, British forces are getting the shit kicked out of them in Afghanistan, and one opportunistic bomb would put coalition forces in further peril.

Cosmo

jsand wrote:

Perhaps if such a huge number of them were taken out, especially the leadership, there would be an end to Hezbollah. Probably wishful thinking, though.

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And we know the rest of the Muslim world would just sit back and say, "Whoa... bummer, dude", and go on with their everyday lives.
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Wait... that's in the bizarro world. Nevermind.

jlew24asu

farfromglorified wrote:

And you're hell-bent on destroying them. You're both too hate-filled to realize that your enemy is not a man but rather a mindset. And you can't bomb a mindset. But you can try. And so can they. And the cycle continues because the human death isn't solving your problems.

I understand your point. on the surface it sounds all well and good. but would you have done with the nazi's? people like hilter and Osama cant be dealt with any other way except with bombs. i dont like the reality of it but it seems to be true

jsand

Cosmo wrote:

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And we know the rest of the Muslim world would just sit back and say, "Whoa... bummer, dude", and go on with their everyday lives.
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Wait... that's in the bizarro world. Nevermind.

Dude, the Muslim world goes crazy over everything, whether it be cartoons or bombs. I'd choose bombs in this case.

Cosmo

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

But remember that Taliban funeral last week? A drone cam caught it. A military mind might conclude that that, too, was target-rich. Yet the decision was made, that any such bombing would be counter-productive, and would probably make the matter much worse.

If Israel carpet-bombed that parade, what do you think might happen?

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The way to run this is to do this:
You know who they are... just follow the sonsabitches home and when they load up the Toyota pickup with the mortar... a Predator uncorks a Hellfire **BOOM**.
Time for another Taliban funeral and another target.