the morality of believers

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  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    Cosmo wrote:
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    Well... I for one... believe in a higher source. I'll call Him 'God', for lack of a better name. I believe He is the life that's in me... and in every other living thing... from single celled critters to cats and dogs and hamsters to grass and trees and marijuana to you and me.
    I don't believe He gave me my humanity. I will take credit for that myself. He just put me here on this road of life... it is up to me to decide where to go. I proclaim all of my deeds... good and bad... in my name only. I'm not passing on blame for my actions and decisions to Satan or giving credit to God... it's all of my own doing. God understands me... loves me and does not judge me. He accepts me for who I am and what i do... even if I make poor choices now and again. This is why I do not fear Him... He is not out there to punish me... just love me.

    well it definitely seems that you've thought through this. My question then is if he (higher source) is in you and he is the life that's in you it seems to me that he is also part of the humanity that determines who you are. But again, our concept of what "God" is, is definitely different.
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  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    hmm angelica i find your statements interesting. personally i see the brain as it. the pinnacle of our existence. if a part of the brain is damaged, the part of the body it is responsible for dies or is damaged as well.

    but then i think that if it were not for the heart pumping blood to the brain, then the brain would die. but is that the brain telling the heart to pump the blood in the first place or....? it would seem a symbiotic relationship, no?
    Also, if it were not for the body going to work and earning money, and then buying food and eating the food, and processing the food, the brain would die.

    If by symbiotic you mean: "any interdependent or mutually beneficial relationship between two persons, groups, etc", I would agree in terms of the mind/body interface. Anything that happens to one, happens, by extension, to the other.

    I have undergone eating disorder treatment, and I've had to bring my body and my mind back into harmony with one another. Through this process, I have learned that in the western world, we all tend to disassociate with our bodies due to our hierarchical way of prioritizing and thinking and of putting one above another, rather than recognizing interdependence and correspondence. This is about worldview rather than about "what is". We pay a huge cost due to these imbalanced views and perceptions, resulting in illness and disorder on a widespread scale across the board. When we get out of synch with universal truths we develop distortion, not only in our minds, but in our bodies.

    i dont understand what you're saying here. please help me to. :)
    What I am saying is that Jeffrey Dahmer the man killed people. When we remove the brain and any possible defects out of the context of the human being it existed in, we are distorting the reality. As said earlier, anything that happens to the body or the brain automatically corresponds to the other. Not just what happens in the brain corresponds to the body--but that what happens in the body corresponds to the brain, too, equally, back and forth. They cannot be separated while the entity is still "Jeffrey Dahmer".
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    chopitdown wrote:
    well it definitely seems that you've thought through this. My question then is if he (higher source) is in you and he is the life that's in you it seems to me that he is also part of the humanity that determines who you are. But again, our concept of what "God" is, is definitely different.
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    No. Life and Humanity are not the same... in my opinion. My cat possesses life... so does my hamster and my ficus tree. But, the hamster, the cat and the ficus tree do not possess the need to help others... care for others... do good deeds for others. The cat just wants to eat the hamster who just wants to run in the wheel.... and the ficus tree just wants water and sunshine.
    As Humans... we are the ones who either possess human character traits or not. We control that. I mean, I bet even Hitler had some humanity... in that he loved his dog and his girlfriend and cared about others and his country. But, he also choose to shut down his humanity... and converted love to hate... when it came to the Jews and Slavs. It wasn't God or Satan that came up with the Final Solution... that was all on Hitler. So, I believe that Hitler was human, but did not choose to exert his humanity towards all... he was selective to only those he saw fit to qualify as human.
    So, the way I see it, possessing life... which is created by... 'God'... sets us at our starting point... you, me, the cat, the hamster, Hitler... It is up to us to choose which way we go.
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