Pentagon

onelongsong

Pickr wrote:

I am just making the point that the US goverment has no problem killing innocent children for the sake of it's cause...that is all I am trying to get across.

so a government that allows it citizens to own weapons of war (like assault weapons) for the purpose of protecting the constitution against a rouge leader is going to do such a horrendus assault against it's citizens?

hsewif

From this site:

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/

(read the article titles on the left hand side to give you an idea of the site owners frame-of-mind)

I found this:

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911_pentagon_eyewitnesses.html

Also...Last week, I watched a news program that showed the released Pentagon parking lot video. They slowed it down and cleaned it up using "the best technology available" and WITHOUT A DOUBT, a very large passenger airplane flew into that building. Someone in the interview even commented on the flying skills of that hijacker...he was better than the WTC ones.

(I can't remember what show/channel I was watching...might have been A&E or Discovery???) Did anyone else see it?

onelongsong

hsewif wrote:

From this site:

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/

(read the article titles on the left hand side to give you an idea of the site owners frame-of-mind)

I found this:

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911_pentagon_eyewitnesses.html

Also...Last week, I watched a news program that showed the released Pentagon parking lot video. They slowed it down and cleaned it up using "the best technology available" and WITHOUT A DOUBT, a very large passenger airplane flew into that building. Someone in the interview even commented on the flying skills of that hijacker...he was better than the WTC ones.

(I can't remember what show/channel I was watching...might have been A&E or Discovery???) Did anyone else see it?

i think it was the history channel. good show too. everything explained to the smallest detail with undeniable proof to back it.
see what happens when people from many fields of expertise join together to find the answer?
and what happens when those with no life must come up with conspiracies.

Pickr

Why is it that a place such as the Pentagon, that should be one of the most documented places by way of security cams in the world, only come up with that piece of tape?

onelongsong

Pickr wrote:

Why is it that a place such as the Pentagon, that should be one of the most documented places by way of security cams in the world, only come up with that piece of tape?

who said they only had one tape? why would a high security building release ANY tapes? i'm surprised they released the one.

Pickr

onelongsong wrote:

who said they only had one tape? why would a high security building release ANY tapes? i'm surprised they released the one.

So they could put to rest this conspiracy talk.

sonicreducer

Pickr wrote:

So they could put to rest this conspiracy talk.

agree,... i don't think it would be a matter of national security to prove the conspiracy theories wrong. seems to me that they might get support out of that, when (or if) the conspiracy theorists stand corrected.

hsewif

Pickr wrote:

Why is it that a place such as the Pentagon, that should be one of the most documented places by way of security cams in the world, only come up with that piece of tape?

http://www.judicialwatch.org/5724.shtml

...there might be more than one tape.

Judicial Watch originally filed a Freedom of Information Act request on December 15, 2004, seeking all records pertaining to camera recordings from the Sheraton National Hotel, the Nexcomm/Citgo gas station, Pentagon security cameras and the Virginia Department of Transportation. The Department of Defense admitted in a January 26, 2005 letter that it possessed a videotape responsive to Judicial Watch’s request. However, the Pentagon advised that the video is exempt from release because it is, “part of an ongoing investigation involving Zacarias Moussaoui.”

If I understand correctly...after his trial, the Pentagon tape was released. As to why the others (Sheraton Hotel, Citgo gas station, etc.) haven't been made public....I have no idea. Maybe they didn't capture anything? They aren't wired for sound, only video.

As I stated earlier, there's not a shred of doubt in my mind that a passenger airplane hit the pentagon. I guess that location isn't very "conspiracy" worthy. WHich in itself should confirm that the WTC attacks weren't a conspiracy, either.

Commy

Pickr wrote:

So they could put to rest this conspiracy talk.

The idea of a conspiracy surounding 9/11 is helping those in power. We waste our time looking for answers while they use the attacks as an excuse to take away all kinds of rights and do all sorts of terrible things in the name of safety. Trading freedom for security and we don't even have a choice, because no one is paying attention.

They say terrorists did it, and for all intents and purposes at this point that is what happened. Now we should look at what they are doing in response to that, try not to give too much.

dunkman

Pickr wrote:

I am just making the point that the US goverment has no problem killing innocent children for the sake of it's cause...that is all I am trying to get across.

and i'm saying to you that it wont kill its OWN children to further its cause... children in other countries is easier to swallow... necessary collateral so to speak... but they simply wouldnt kill their own young citizens as if they were ever found out the entire country would revolt... it hits people 10 times harder if they hear about a 3 year old kid dying as it does hearing about a 30 year old man... its called compassion, and its a natural emotion.... i severely doubt that there are 20 guys in a bunker somewhere in Washington who could sign off a document that allows ????? to shoot down a plane carrying 50-odd of their own people including children... the X-files is a made up show remember

pushmepullme

I don;t have anything to comment upon this, but why do people come on here and start saying 'why do you think america did it/faked it etc etc.'

All these theories are doing to create a debate. As mentioned in the other thread there is enough evidence i'd say to warrant a proper, non government investigation into everything that happened.

Vedderlution_Baby

Thanks to those who gave sites. Thanks for the point and counter point also.