American Revolution

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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    gossardstradlin wrote:
    A great story for independence!!!

    Economics is boring!!!!! Let's talk about how we beat those lobster backs and gained an identity through freedom of religion, social mobility, and hard work.

    See now isn't the history (from an American perspective), victory, and glory so much more exciting!!! :D:D

    I too choose to bask in our victory for independence!!!

    Dude, the Americans drove my family out of Pensylvania during the American Revolution because we were Mennonites. Religious freedom my ass!
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  • gossardstradlin
    gossardstradlin Posts: 324
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Dude, the Americans drove my family out of Pensylvania during the American Revolution because we were Mennonites. Religious freedom my ass!

    I was being somewhat sarcastic, but also a little serious in my statement about the glory and victory part. Obviously it has much more appeal than some hidden hard to swallow truths and people gravitate to the stories of valor and so forth. I do find it interesting that so many religious groups came to the New World to practice their beliefs but yet once they got here they excluded other beliefs. So others went and settled other places and formed other colonies. Kind of like, "We hated done to us over there, but we are going to do it to you over here because we found this turf first, except wait there are natives here but they do not really count."
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    gossardstradlin wrote:
    I was being somewhat sarcastic, but also a little serious in my statement about the glory and victory part. Obviously it has much more appeal than some hidden hard to swallow truths and people gravitate to the stories of valor and so forth. I do find it interesting that so many religious groups came to the New World to practice their beliefs but yet once they got here they excluded other beliefs. So others went and settled other places and formed other colonies. Kind of like, "We hated done to us over there, but we are going to do it to you over here because we found this turf first, except wait there are natives here but they do not really count."

    lol

    People are fucked up man.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    So where does Mel Gibson fit in all of this? :confused:
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    jeffbr wrote:
    We leapfrogged GB in every measure that matters, very early on, and haven't looked back.

    'Every measure that matters'? Really?
  • MakingWaves
    MakingWaves Posts: 1,294
    Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:
    I just don't really understand what the british did that was so bad. They implemented taxes on the colonies to pay for the british military that was in the americas, a military the colonists used. They implemented other taxes (Sugar act, molasses act) to try and stop american smugglers who completely went around the government and paid absolutely no attention to the law, and since they were tried by their peers, they were never found guilty and always acquited, which meant they went right back out there and did it again. Even when the british implemented the Tea act, which lowered the price of tea, the colonists rebelled and the sons of liberty pulled off the boston tea party. And what I meant by the brethen statement: essentially, they say that the british civilians can be faulted by not electing officials who did not create such acts that were currently in place. What I don't understand is why someone would elect an official that taxes them to pay for something they dont use nor see.

    Read the book 1776. It sums it up and is a good read. Their taxes were raised for wars being fought by the British on foreign soil and the colonies were at a point where they didn't feel tied to Britan anymore. The taxation without representation became a big deal because of this and things started going downhill quickly after that. I don't think it is a stupid question for you to ask either. We have to remember there were a large number of colonists who were asking the same question you are.
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  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    Sweet fancy moses....


    Vedderlution...how would you feel if you were taxed and refused the right to vote? Would you consider that "passive"?
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Byrnzie wrote:
    'Every measure that matters'? Really?

    Well, not every measure. The English play a more beautiful game of footy. ;)
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • ThumbingMyWay32
    ThumbingMyWay32 Posts: 1,224
    The Atlantic Ocean has a surface area of roughly 32 million square miles. Britain is on one side and America is on the other. After you understand that, history becomes pretty clear.
    "Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive"

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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Someone want to explain where your tax money is going now?

    Oh yeah, right, here!
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • RockinInCanada
    RockinInCanada Posts: 2,016
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Someone want to explain where your tax money is going now?

    Oh yeah, right, here!

    To Mr. Federal Reserve himself.....
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Rockin'InCanada wrote:
    To Mr. Federal Reserve himself.....

    Straight from the horses mouth.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • he still stands
    he still stands Posts: 2,835
    taxation without representation.
    Everything not forbidden is compulsory and eveything not compulsory is forbidden. You are free... free to do what the government says you can do.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    he still stands wrote:
    taxation without representation.
    Representin' Deutschland yo!
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  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    momofglynn wrote:
    growing up right outside of Boston, Concord, Lexington area, we are surrounded by the history of the Revolutionary War. Personally I think we did what we needed to do in order to survive. We were ordered to pay taxes and pretty stiff ones at that, and they gave us no voice when it came to rules that applied. So not only did they force people out of England due to religion. We settled in the US on the behalf of England. England then taxed us at crazy amounts and then basically treated us like a red headed step child. So we got a little mad, said enough is enough. I was born in MA, lived in NH my whole life and I like the fact that NH is still pretty true to form. Live Free or Die.


    i'm not trying to embroil my country into this, but you are aware that it was Britain who set your taxes too high... and Britain isn't just England!!!

    sorry.. i just hate it when people think that Britain is just England... its ignorance.. i know all 73 states of america including mexico... the least you could do is learn that England is only 1/4 of Great Britain.

    thanks...
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    dunkman wrote:
    i know all 73 states of america including mexico...

    Haha, Priceless!
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire

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