The morals of an atheist

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  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    Ahnimus wrote:
    There is a material explanation for that. Remember Newberg?
    A correlation is not an explanation. Correlates of consciousness do not equal consciousness itself.

    edit: note the "co" part of the word "correlate".
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  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    double post
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  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    Ahnimus wrote:
    There is a material explanation for that. Remember Newberg?
    The fact remains that there are philosophers who deal with outside the bounds of materialism at this point in time.
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    angelica wrote:
    The fact remains that there are philosophers who deal with outside the bounds of materialism at this point in time.

    Not many. And is it at this specific point in time, or are you talking 5 - 10 years ago?
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • WMAWMA Posts: 175
    I think people have the same morals more or less whether they are religious or not. Most religious people in my experience have the same internal 'moral compass' that atheists have and do the same sorts of things, they just apologize after or bend the religion to their perspective so they will believe it is ok and they don't feel guilt.

    A ton of religious 'rules' seem to have been thrown away just because people don't see the sense or the bad results in following them anymore. That in itself shows that there is a moral compass outside of religion.
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Not many. And is it at this specific point in time, or are you talking 5 - 10 years ago?
    I'm talking now.

    For example, Ken Wilbur has developed an integral consciousness think-tank that is about other thinkers coming together to develop the further reaches of human thought at this time.

    I will grant you that those who perceive our reality holistically are on the fringes since they are far fewer in numbers. Only two percent of the population has integrated with their potential which includes seeing a holistic view. So they are far from being the "norm". If you consider how many are philosophers, yes, they are a small percentage.

    When a philosopher shows a bias toward materialism, they reveal themselves.

    Many of the philosophers who emcompass current thought, say through our universities, deal with a much less rarefied world-view of awareness, just short of integrated awareness. Therefore they have yet to integrate all aspects of the view they see with reality.

    Keep in mind that in one hundred or five hundred years, the philosophers of this era that will be remembered, will not be the ones who share a certain "normal" level of thought, but they will be ones who have comprehended new perceptions and paradigms in philosophy, itself. They will be rare and outstanding, rather than mediocre.
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  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Try this:



    You may have to click "View Transcript" on the linked page.

    Patricia Churchland is a neurophilosopher.
    Thanks, Ahnimus. I just finished the article. It was informative and as I suspected, considering I'm interested in the material aspect of morality, her philosophical slant towards it did not interfere with the neutrality of the information.

    I also noticed the questions that soulsinging has raised in the past regarding "chemical-jailing" and other ethics issues were addressed, which I found interesting. :)
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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    my buffalo were in the movie. except the bull that ran at the kid. he's owned by a bloke in Mn that takes him around the country and even rides him.

    So now you're a woman named Kaye Ingle who owns a buffalo ranch in South Dakota? Wow. It just keeps getting better and better.

    http://www.tripleuranch.com/htm/the_ranch.shtml

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  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    gue_barium wrote:
    So now you're a woman named Kaye Ingle who owns a buffalo ranch in South Dakota? Wow. It just keeps getting better and better.

    http://www.tripleuranch.com/htm/the_ranch.shtml

    kaye and gerard are my neighbors there. i bought most of my herd from them. the balance were bought from the flying w ranch which you may remember from cowboy u. my bull is the son of king. i also have a ranch in nevada which is a national landmark which will be open to the public on july 1 2008.

    nice try but i run with a good crowd. mel gibson has a small ranch down the road from me here. he flys in by helecopter often. just because you may be a nobody; doesn't mean everybody else is.
  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    Not that it excuses Ahnimus in any way...but you've said some fucked up shit to me to me in the 9/11 threads. It has nothing to do with sex...it has everything to do with allowing yourself to disrespect someone you disagree with.




    edit...minus the ing

    i don't recall any disrespect towards you. if so; i'm sorry. i do however remember attacking a rediculous theory and i stand behind it.
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    kaye and gerard are my neighbors there. i bought most of my herd from them. the balance were bought from the flying w ranch which you may remember from cowboy u. my bull is the son of king. i also have a ranch in nevada which is a national landmark which will be open to the public on july 1 2008.

    nice try but i run with a good crowd. mel gibson has a small ranch down the road from me here. he flys in by helecopter often. just because you may be a nobody; doesn't mean everybody else is.

    If owning buffalo qualifies one as a "somebody", I'll pass. Thanks anyway, Ms. Onelongsong.

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  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    gue_barium wrote:
    If owning buffalo qualifies one as a "somebody", I'll pass. Thanks anyway, Ms. Onelongsong.

    i thought you'd slink back under your rock. i'm the last person you want to start a pissing contest with.
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    i thought you'd slink back under your rock. i'm the last person you want to start a pissing contest with.

    Never had any intentions of such....

    Incidentally, I know that area in South Dakota quite well.

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  • KatKat Posts: 4,899
    Not sure why there are so many personal comments and insults against others again.

    Buffalo talk doesn't fit in with atheism and morals...does it? Topic Integrity.

    Please put each other on your Ignore List...immediately.

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    P.S. Don't make me pull out the banning wand.....
    Falling down,...not staying down
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