Whats the end result of the Obama hatred? Can he win with all thats been said?

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I make no bones about my dislike of obama and that i will not vote for him.
However the stuff going around now seems so outrageous one has to wonder where it stops, and whats the end result?
It seems from the Youtube interviews of Mccain supporters and just the whole "fox news" mentality is this: Obama is a muslim and a terrorist supporter. That he is a radical.
To these people, thats a fact. No one can prove them wrong because they believe these are facts.
Thats why I dont think Obama will win. There are thousands maybe millions of people who think obama is a muslim and a terrorist supporter. Millions more who are racist and will not vote for him, solely on the fact his skin tone is dark.
I think also, if he does get elected, as I stated in previous threads and posts, sadly alot of people, will want him dead.
If people are shouting "kill" "bomb" and "off with his head", and people are "scared" of a obama presidency, just think the mayhem that will ensue if he gets into the white house.
As I said, I dont support obama, he isnt a candidate I like. That said he isnt a muslim, or terrorist lover.
However the stuff going around now seems so outrageous one has to wonder where it stops, and whats the end result?
It seems from the Youtube interviews of Mccain supporters and just the whole "fox news" mentality is this: Obama is a muslim and a terrorist supporter. That he is a radical.
To these people, thats a fact. No one can prove them wrong because they believe these are facts.
Thats why I dont think Obama will win. There are thousands maybe millions of people who think obama is a muslim and a terrorist supporter. Millions more who are racist and will not vote for him, solely on the fact his skin tone is dark.
I think also, if he does get elected, as I stated in previous threads and posts, sadly alot of people, will want him dead.
If people are shouting "kill" "bomb" and "off with his head", and people are "scared" of a obama presidency, just think the mayhem that will ensue if he gets into the white house.
As I said, I dont support obama, he isnt a candidate I like. That said he isnt a muslim, or terrorist lover.
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radiohead33 wrote:I make no bones about my dislike of obama and that i will not vote for him.
However the stuff going around now seems so outrageous one has to wonder where it stops, and whats the end result?
It seems from the Youtube interviews of Mccain supporters and just the whole "fox news" mentality is this: Obama is a muslim and a terrorist supporter. That he is a radical.
To these people, thats a fact. No one can prove them wrong because they believe these are facts.
Thats why I dont think Obama will win. There are thousands maybe millions of people who think obama is a muslim and a terrorist supporter. Millions more who are racist and will not vote for him, solely on the fact his skin tone is dark.
I think also, if he does get elected, as I stated in previous threads and posts, sadly alot of people, will want him dead.
If people are shouting "kill" "bomb" and "off with his head", and people are "scared" of a obama presidency, just think the mayhem that will ensue if he gets into the white house.
As I said, I dont support obama, he isnt a candidate I like. That said he isnt a muslim, or terrorist lover.0 -
I'm not much of an Obama supporter either, but the McCain/Palin ticket seems to be a much greater evil.
Even if Obama was a muslim and a terrorist supporter, how much damage could he really do? Congress would be on his ass like flies on shit at the first sign of treason. It's not like he's going to fly Air Force One into the Pentagon.
Personally, I think it would be great to have a black person in office. Above all, I'd like to see an overweight black woman in office just to piss off the sexists, racists, and the guys who make fun of fat chicks.
But, I'm banking that a black person in office will be a huge self-confidence boost for blacks and even other minorities all over the nation. So many millions of black kids are born into poverty, gangs, and hopelessness. It would be nice if they could see with their own eyes the potential of their existence.
They say that self-esteem is the cornerstone of moral behavior. Maybe if these kids could look in the mirror and like who they see, they'll be less tempted to idolize people like fifty cent.0 -
And i'd like to take a moment to apologize to any posters here that are Muslims. I wonder what they think when they see time and time again, angry posts accusing Obama of being a muslim.
I am so sick and tired of people insinuating that that is a bad thing. Makes me sick to my stomach that the Republican Party has succeeded with associating one religion with absolute hatred, that they’ve been able to instil this idea that every single person in the Middle East has a bomb and a gun and a distinct hatred for Americans. Absolutely not true.0 -
radiohead33 wrote:I make no bones about my dislike of obama and that i will not vote for him.
However the stuff going around now seems so outrageous one has to wonder where it stops, and whats the end result?
It seems from the Youtube interviews of Mccain supporters and just the whole "fox news" mentality is this: Obama is a muslim and a terrorist supporter. That he is a radical.
To these people, thats a fact. No one can prove them wrong because they believe these are facts.
Thats why I dont think Obama will win. There are thousands maybe millions of people who think obama is a muslim and a terrorist supporter. Millions more who are racist and will not vote for him, solely on the fact his skin tone is dark.
I think also, if he does get elected, as I stated in previous threads and posts, sadly alot of people, will want him dead.
If people are shouting "kill" "bomb" and "off with his head", and people are "scared" of a obama presidency, just think the mayhem that will ensue if he gets into the white house.
As I said, I dont support obama, he isnt a candidate I like. That said he isnt a muslim, or terrorist lover.
The Fox Newsification / Hannity hate speak ... it still has me not nearly as confident as I'd like to be as an Obama supporter. I still feel there is a movement waiting to happen to change this election.
Someone started a thread earlier on whether there would be a race riot if Obama lost ... I'm starting to wonder if we should start another thread asking the same question, but if McCain lost. At least with this thread, we'd have video evidence of the building of a riot."You're one of the few Red Sox fans I don't mind." - Newch91
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Pj_Gurl wrote:And i'd like to take a moment to apologize to any posters here that are Muslims. I wonder what they think when they see time and time again, angry posts accusing Obama of being a muslim.
I am so sick and tired of people insinuating that that is a bad thing. Makes me sick to my stomach that the Republican Party has succeeded with associating one religion with absolute hatred, that they’ve been able to instil this idea that every single person in the Middle East has a bomb and a gun and a distinct hatred for Americans. Absolutely not true."I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"0 -
radiohead33 wrote:I make no bones about my dislike of obama and that i will not vote for him.
However the stuff going around now seems so outrageous one has to wonder where it stops, and whats the end result?
It seems from the Youtube interviews of Mccain supporters and just the whole "fox news" mentality is this: Obama is a muslim and a terrorist supporter. That he is a radical.
To these people, thats a fact. No one can prove them wrong because they believe these are facts.
Thats why I dont think Obama will win. There are thousands maybe millions of people who think obama is a muslim and a terrorist supporter. Millions more who are racist and will not vote for him, solely on the fact his skin tone is dark.
I think also, if he does get elected, as I stated in previous threads and posts, sadly alot of people, will want him dead.
If people are shouting "kill" "bomb" and "off with his head", and people are "scared" of a obama presidency, just think the mayhem that will ensue if he gets into the white house.
As I said, I dont support obama, he isnt a candidate I like. That said he isnt a muslim, or terrorist lover.
really the only difference with the smears on Obama is that he happens to have darker skin tones. In every elections both sides try to stir up hate, stir up lies (re: associations, past activities etc...) and people on both sides believe them...w/o even questioning the validity of the rumors. There are lots of people who want every president dead, so again...do I feel bad for Obama in that regard? no more than I feel bad for every president who has their life taken or threatend. Unfortunately, it goes with the territory. He's not special in this case. I think he will win, if for no other reason than he's a fresh face around washington. He's also likable and intelligent. I don't like a lot of his policies, but he also seems willing to think through things and change his mind as more information comes available. That being said, if he's elected I don't think the outcry will be much different than any other election that is tightly contested. There will be accusations of voter fraud, intimidation, people being denied the right to vote etc...make sure the fortune that you seek...is the fortune that you need0 -
I still don't understand how anyone could believe that Obama's a Muslim (not that that's a bad thing; one of the things that disgusts me about this election is all of the anti-Muslim sentiment). He's attended the same Christian chuch for years. Why on earth would a Muslim attend a Christian church? It just doesn't make sense to me how anyone could believe it.Chicago 2000 : Chicago 2003 : Chicago 2006 : Summerfest 2006 : Lollapalooza 2007 : Chicago 2009 : Noblesville (Indy) 2010 : PJ20 (East Troy) 2011 : Wrigley Field 2013 : Milwaukee (Yield) 2014 : Wrigley Field 20160
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iamica wrote:I still don't understand how anyone could believe that Obama's a Muslim (not that that's a bad thing; one of the things that disgusts me about this election is all of the anti-Muslim sentiment). He's attended the same Christian chuch for years. Why on earth would a Muslim attend a Christian church? It just doesn't make sense to me how anyone could believe it.
What bugs me is that the democrats haven't fought fire with fire and attacked McCain for being an oven chip."I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"0 -
There's a minority that just wants to believe it; it's certainly a minority, but it's present nonetheless. I mean, if one of their first introductions to Obama was some viral e-mail stating he was a Muslim, maybe they're viewing everything that has come after as being lies to avoid that truth. It's completely ridiculous, but this entire year has been ridiculous. I traveled to visit my girlfriend's family a month or two ago, and I met alot of people who believe this. It scared me, because from my own personal experience, such thoughts and such hatred towards Obama was much more pronounced than I would've thought. What struck me was how many of the people thought he was a Muslim, and then in their next rant would talk about his "racist preacher" Wright, and how Obama was also a racist. They didn't seem to see the problem with those two viewpoints existing at the same time.
I think, judging from McCain's actions at his rallies he has realized that A: this kind of behavior does not seem that appealing to the undecided swing voters who will decide this election, and B: that this hatred of Obama, that thus far has gone uninhibited by the McCain camp, was getting out of hand. I think McCain is very uncomfortable with the way his campaign as gone (how virulently angry and hateful portions of the campaign have been thus far), but he swallowed it because he wanted to win. Maybe he doesn't want to swallow it anymore.0 -
Pj_Gurl wrote:Isn't it awesome how we are portrayed to the rest of the world. People see all of these events in the 'news'' over and over again and they think that those peoples behaviour and thoughts are the 'norm'. No wonder the rest of the world laughs their asses off at us. Seriously.
The rest of the world is just as racist, even Europe. Don't let them fool you.BRING BACK THE WHALE0 -
I think he can and will win. The haters are the minority. They are getting shrill and hysterical, but reason will prevail. We need calm and rational people in charge at this point, and I think Obama has those qualities, and will win.R.i.p. Rigoberto Alpizar.
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Opinions aren’t shared by everybody. It’s a shame one bad apple will spoil the bunch. But I do think that’s how people view things. That being said, it only takes one extremist to ruin things. I’d be scared shitless if I was Obama’s wife and kids. That man has balls.
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I'm pretty sure a Muslim would not seek to become the president of the USA. A fundamental fact is that a Jew is an enemy of a Muslim, and given the USA's strong support of Israel, the logic seems to favor a contradiction. Therefore questions about his Muslim background need not be explored if you consider what the USA supports and symbolizes. It's a ridiculous issue. I'm currently living outside the usa so i know only what I read, but suspicions of his alleged Muslim background are not a big issue anyway.96-Prague
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with all do respect to OP what is it that you don't like about obama that you find in McCAIN ,i mean you will vote for McInsane no ? ...jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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There have really been some outstanding replies here..
This last week has been so up an down for me personally ~ incredibly sad.. anger-evoking and absolute confussion that there are still people out there that think this way. I knew it existed, but to hear masses of people say some of these things is disgusting and disturbing. I thougt we had evolved, but sadly there are still many people who feel the need to judge one on the color of one's skin, rather than the content of one's character.
Having sad that.. I do still believe that these people are the minority. I believe the majority of Americans are not these hate filled bigots who will believe anything they read in a forwarded email. These people were looking for things about Obama to not like, to justify their hatred of someone who has a darker skin tone than they do.
The rational people of this country will indeed elect Obama as our next president. I do feel this last week might have just sealed the deal for most people who were undecided who have viewed these crazies at McCain's ralies.
I think one of the questions posed in another reply.. I think it is quite possible that these unstable people could very well take to the street in protest.
I do have to say though that I hope that President Obama's secret service protection is quite larger than any other president.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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QuestionAuthority wrote:There have really been some outstanding replies here..
This last week has been so up an down for me personally ~ incredibly sad.. anger-evoking and absolute confussion that there are still people out there that think this way. I knew it existed, but to hear masses of people say some of these things is disgusting and disturbing. I thougt we had evolved, but sadly there are still many people who feel the need to judge one on the color of one's skin, rather than the content of one's character.
Having sad that.. I do still believe that these people are the minority. I believe the majority of Americans are not these hate filled bigots who will believe anything they read in a forwarded email. These people were looking for things about Obama to not like, to justify their hatred of someone who has a darker skin tone than they do.
The rational people of this country will indeed elect Obama as our next president. I do feel this last week might have just sealed the deal for most people who were undecided who have viewed these crazies at McCain's ralies.
I think one of the questions posed in another reply.. I think it is quite possible that these unstable people could very well take to the street in protest.
I do have to say though that I hope that President Obama's secret service protection is quite larger than any other president.
you know what is really sad also that some of these folks are actually PJ fans ...jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
josevolution wrote:you know what is really sad also that some of these folks are actually PJ fans ...
Oh I know.. it has never made sense to me.. but that is a whole other topic!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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radiohead33 wrote:I make no bones about my dislike of obama and that i will not vote for him.
However the stuff going around now seems so outrageous one has to wonder where it stops, and whats the end result?
It seems from the Youtube interviews of Mccain supporters and just the whole "fox news" mentality is this: Obama is a muslim and a terrorist supporter. That he is a radical.
To these people, thats a fact. No one can prove them wrong because they believe these are facts.
Thats why I dont think Obama will win. There are thousands maybe millions of people who think obama is a muslim and a terrorist supporter. Millions more who are racist and will not vote for him, solely on the fact his skin tone is dark.
I think also, if he does get elected, as I stated in previous threads and posts, sadly alot of people, will want him dead.
If people are shouting "kill" "bomb" and "off with his head", and people are "scared" of a obama presidency, just think the mayhem that will ensue if he gets into the white house.
As I said, I dont support obama, he isnt a candidate I like. That said he isnt a muslim, or terrorist lover.
I think you overestimate and exaggerate your figures here. The relatively small handful of complete numbskulls you mention here are outnumbered by folks who see McCain and Palin as the twits they are and are, in fact, greatly turned off by the nauseating campaign they are running. While you focus on these fools on youtube and at McCain/Palin rallies, the rest of us are laughing and shaking our heads at the profound stupidity of these rednecks. i think its time for you to face it, as tough as it may be, your next president is more than likely going to be the uppity Black guy from Chicago
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jimed14 wrote:
Someone started a thread earlier on whether there would be a race riot if Obama lost ... I'm starting to wonder if we should start another thread asking the same question, but if McCain lost. At least with this thread, we'd have video evidence of the building of a riot.
i've mentioned in this forum before how i know a guy whose job it is to study and momitor the behaviors and patterns of white supremacist hate groups in the U.S and he says the blabber of "race war" if Obama wins from these jackasses is actually quite alarming. Yet white folks want to focus on the possibility of riots in the inner cities if Obama loses. Crazy."When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."0 -
i for one will go out and buy myself a rifle and the 1st McCAIN idiot to step on my lawn after he losses the election get's a bullet he he :eek: but yeah i can se all the bigots go out into the streets chantin anti racial slurrs about OBAMA ....jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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