Did McCain know beforehand of Bristol being pregnant?

musicismylife78
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edited September 2008 in A Moving Train
Surely he had to have known right?
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  • dg1979us
    dg1979us Posts: 568
    She is pregnant now? Or is this based on the dailykos story that used a photo of her that was over a year old to point out her stomach fat?
  • whitepants
    whitepants Posts: 729
    According to the news reports, Sarah was upfront with McCain about her daughter expecting. Why they allowed the nasty 'Days of Our Lives' soap opera drama gossip leaks run rampant before publicy admitting it, I'll never know.
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  • SVRDhand13
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    whitepants wrote:
    According to the news reports, Sarah was upfront with McCain about her daughter expecting. Why they allowed the nasty 'Days of Our Lives' soap opera drama gossip leaks run rampant before publicy admitting it, I'll never know.
    I don't think he knew. Notice now how they're saying Bristol is going to marry the guy that got her pregnant. Yea sure, sounds like the correct conservative answer to me. I bet after the election that marriage will be forgotten about.
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  • Strangest Tribe
    Strangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    I say Bullshit, he didn't know...

    so much for family values and morals....
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  • g under p
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    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    I don't think he knew. Notice now how they're saying Bristol is going to marry the guy that got her pregnant. Yea sure, sounds like the correct conservative answer to me. I bet after the election that marriage will be forgotten about.

    So if she wasn't pregnant she wouldn't be marrying this guy right. Why do I get this feeling in a month she may somehow lose this baby and this getting married thing will be all gone.

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  • DriftingByTheStorm
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    Strangest Tribe wrote:
    I say Bullshit, he didn't know...

    so much for family values and morals....

    and the dems get a pass because they don't even pretend to have any?

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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    A non-issue if there ever was one.
  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    dg1979us wrote:
    She is pregnant now? Or is this based on the dailykos story that used a photo of her that was over a year old to point out her stomach fat?

    yes, she is pregnant now. there wer rumors that the Downs Syndrome baby was actually hers, but that seems impossible now. unless her and her eskimo boyfriend got it on in the hospital/igloo bed in which she gave birth
  • _
    _ Posts: 6,657
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    yes, she is pregnant now. there wer rumors that the Downs Syndrome baby was actually hers, but that seems impossible now. unless her and her eskimo boyfriend got it on in the hospital/igloo bed in which she gave birth

    Unless they're lying about how far along she is...
  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    McCain still doesn't know. In fact, he doesn't even what the fuck he's doing in general. He's just receiving his orders from the higher-ups.
  • unsung
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    _outlaw wrote:
    McCain still doesn't know. In fact, he doesn't even what the fuck he's doing in general. He's just receiving his orders from the higher-ups.


    HAHA, you think Obama doesn't? They ALL do.
  • meistereder
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    unsung wrote:
    A non-issue if there ever was one.


    Depends on whether you consider sex education an issue. There is a difference between exploiting the life of a minor (not in play) and discussing the politics of a vice presidential candidate (very in play). Here is a woman who preaches abstinence only as an official policy. A policy that is a proven failure, as confirmed by even her own daughter, which is anything but a coincidence from what I can gather. To me, that is not a non-issue.
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  • fuck
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    unsung wrote:
    HAHA, you think Obama doesn't? They ALL do.
    Atleast Obama has an idea of what he's doing.

    McCain doesn't even know about the existence of color TV.
  • unsung
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    _outlaw wrote:
    Atleast Obama has an idea of what he's doing.

    McCain doesn't even know about the existence of color TV.


    So you don't care that someone else is pulling his strings because he knows about it?
  • unsung
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    meistereder wrote:
    A policy that is a proven failure, as confirmed by even her own daughter, which is anything but a coincidence from what I can gather.

    Are you saying her daughter is a slut? Because it sure sounds like that is what you are saying.
  • meistereder
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    unsung wrote:
    Are you saying her daughter is a slut? Because it sure sounds like that is what you are saying.

    Excuse me? That's your response? Wow. Not going to take the bait from the far right.

    No, I am saying abstinence only (obviously) does not work.
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  • unsung
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    You said, "which is anything but a coincidence from what I gather". That is what I'm asking about. It looked like you were speaking of her directly.
  • meistereder
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    unsung wrote:
    You said, "which is anything but a coincidence". That is what I'm asking about.


    Right. Let me spell it out to whoever doesn't follow me. I thought this was pretty obvious, but here goes.

    Abstinence means not having sex. The policy doesn't work. The reason it doesn't work is the policy doesn't stop people, even minors, from having sex. Palin's daughter, a minor, is pregnant. Using deductive reasoning, I am going to reach a conclusion. She had sex.

    To sum it all up, Palin advocates a policy that doesn't work, as is apparent from her own daughter.

    Note that I made no mention of "slut." Palin's daughter is a human being. Human beings have sexual drives. Throwing that word out there in this discussion boggles my mind.
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  • _
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    unsung wrote:
    Are you saying her daughter is a slut? Because it sure sounds like that is what you are saying.

    This question illustrates the whole problem. Why do women/teenagers/people have to be either virgins or sluts? This is the abstinence-only way of thinking, that leaves no room for good people to behave as sexual beings outside the confines of marriage or without the purpose of procreation. Palin's daughter is not a slut and I don't believe anyone has said she is. She is a normal 17-year-old girl who, in reality (that little bit of life that seems to be left out of this whole abstinence-only agenda), has sex and needs to be educated about it and have access to birth control.
  • slightofjeff
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    scb wrote:
    She is a normal 17-year-old girl who, in reality (that little bit of life that seems to be left out of this whole abstinence-only agenda), has sex and needs to be educated about it and have access to birth control.

    I tend to agree with this.

    My question is this: Isn't this what they are already teaching in public schools? It's been a while since sex ed class for me, admittedly. But I remember a health teacher giving us information on various forms of contraceptives, as well as abstinence.

    If you are suggesting that the school nurse should hand out "the pill" to any girl who asks for it, I'm not sure I agree. I think, for children under 18, this should be up to the parents to decide. I'd want to know what my daughter was on, or not on. I'd consider anything less an invasion of my family's privacy.

    As for the line of thinking of "well, they're just going to do it anyway" ... well, you're right *some* teenagers are going to have sex anyway. But there are things you can do to lessen the chances they will succumb to temptation. You can teach them the value of their virginity, and the value -- physically, emotionally, and spiritually -- of waiting until the time is right. That's how I was raised, and I was surrounded by likeminded people, so it was easier to avoid temptations until I was well into college ... and not a child anymore.
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