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How was Mccain tortured in Vietnam?

musicismylife78musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
edited January 2008 in A Moving Train
Its common knowledge he was tortured, but no one ever says, specifically what he endured.

How was he tortured?
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  • Dirtie_FrankDirtie_Frank Posts: 1,348
    radiohead33 wrote:
    Its common knowledge he was tortured, but no one ever says, specifically what he endured.

    How was he tortured?

    Maybe I am wrong but you do not not many peoplle that were in Vietnam do you?
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Dirtie_Frank wrote:
    Maybe I am wrong but you do not not many peoplle that were in Vietnam do you?
    please try again
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    radiohead33 wrote:
    Its common knowledge he was tortured, but no one ever says, specifically what he endured.

    How was he tortured?

    cliff notes version.

    McCain was sent to a prisoner-of-war camp in Hanoi in December 1967, into a cell with two other Americans who did not expect him to live a week (one was Bud Day, a future Medal of Honor recipient); they nursed McCain and kept him alive.[38] In March 1968, McCain was put into solitary confinement, where he would be for two years.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain


    I'm sure there was alot that only he knows. whatever happened during his captivity, I'm sure it was pretty.
  • Dirtie_FrankDirtie_Frank Posts: 1,348
    jlew24asu wrote:
    please try again
    What is that supposed to mean?
    96 Randall's Island II
    98 CAA
    00 Virginia Beach;Camden I; Jones Beach III
    05 Borgata Night I; Wachovia Center
    06 Letterman Show; Webcast (guy in blue shirt), Camden I; DC
    08 Camden I; Camden II; DC
    09 Phillie III
    10 MSG II
    13 Wrigley Field
    16 Phillie II
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Dirtie_Frank wrote:
    Maybe I am wrong but you do not not many peoplle that were in Vietnam do you?
    Dirtie_Frank wrote:
    What is that supposed to mean?


    you asked the question for me.
  • Dirtie_FrankDirtie_Frank Posts: 1,348
    So you are radiohead as well as Jlew? Is that so you can argue with yourself?
    96 Randall's Island II
    98 CAA
    00 Virginia Beach;Camden I; Jones Beach III
    05 Borgata Night I; Wachovia Center
    06 Letterman Show; Webcast (guy in blue shirt), Camden I; DC
    08 Camden I; Camden II; DC
    09 Phillie III
    10 MSG II
    13 Wrigley Field
    16 Phillie II
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Dirtie_Frank wrote:
    So you are radiohead as well as Jlew? Is that so you can argue with yourself?

    radiohead asked a simple question and you followed it up with a broken nonsense sentence. good job.
  • Dirtie_FrankDirtie_Frank Posts: 1,348
    WHo are you his mommy? Are you the moving train police? All I was alluding too was that many vets do not like to talk about their expierences.

    I used to think you were not so bad of a guy with the arguments you have with ROLAND, but now I see you are nothing but a busy-body. who stick their nose where it does not belong.
    96 Randall's Island II
    98 CAA
    00 Virginia Beach;Camden I; Jones Beach III
    05 Borgata Night I; Wachovia Center
    06 Letterman Show; Webcast (guy in blue shirt), Camden I; DC
    08 Camden I; Camden II; DC
    09 Phillie III
    10 MSG II
    13 Wrigley Field
    16 Phillie II
  • Dirtie_FrankDirtie_Frank Posts: 1,348
    ps i am sorry that I do not practice perfect written english on a blog. I will try to be more punctual next time.
    96 Randall's Island II
    98 CAA
    00 Virginia Beach;Camden I; Jones Beach III
    05 Borgata Night I; Wachovia Center
    06 Letterman Show; Webcast (guy in blue shirt), Camden I; DC
    08 Camden I; Camden II; DC
    09 Phillie III
    10 MSG II
    13 Wrigley Field
    16 Phillie II
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Dirtie_Frank wrote:
    ps i am sorry that I do not practice perfect written english on a blog. I will try to be more punctual next time.

    it just helps when trying to debate on the moving train "blog". lighten up. :)
  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,752
    i wonder who was worse off......

    mccain tortured in vietnam.....

    or me reading this thread.....

    hehehehe.............
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • theroachmantheroachman Posts: 362
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    i wonder who was worse off......

    mccain tortured in vietnam.....

    or me reading this thread.....

    hehehehe.............


    Ditto

    sorry but the question of how Senator McCain was tortured is not relevant to a discussion of politics. Its borders a smear in line with faked reports of illegitimate children.
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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    i remember seeing a show on it but i cant remember the details.

    i know he had most of his teeth broken out and was tortured pretty much daily for most of the time. it also explained how the guards tried to get prisoners to turn on each other and one guard was a real bastard in particular. He could have gotten released earlier but refused offers to be taken before a few others. his hair turned white. tough mother fucker. thats all i know.
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    i wonder who was worse off......

    mccain tortured in vietnam.....

    or me reading this thread.....

    hehehehe.............

    Agreed...give me what McCain got.....please..
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    theroachman wrote:
    Ditto

    sorry but the question of how Senator McCain was tortured is not relevant to a discussion of politics. Its borders a smear in line with faked reports of illegitimate children.


    The question is definitely relevant if it makes him a prime candidate for emotional issues.

    Looking at how he's running...he still thinks he in the war to fight "the gooks" so to speak.

    I'd say he's been affected. He has an axe to grind....probably still has nightmares about it also.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
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  • mookie9999mookie9999 Posts: 4,677
    jlew24asu wrote:
    ...whatever happened during his captivity, I'm sure it was pretty.

    Please try again.
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  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    mookie9999 wrote:
    Please try again.

    LOL. Beat me to it.
  • spongersponger Posts: 3,159
    Yes, when McCain closes his eyes, he sees napalm explosions and huey helicopters flying over triple canopies while "The End" by the Doors plays in the background.
    reigning champion

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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    sponger wrote:
    Yes, when McCain closes his eyes, he sees napalm explosions and huey helicopters flying over triple canopies while "The End" by the Doors plays in the background.

    He's like that Strawberry dude on Cheech and Chong...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • theroachmantheroachman Posts: 362
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    The question is definitely relevant if it makes him a prime candidate for emotional issues.

    Looking at how he's running...he still thinks he in the war to fight "the gooks" so to speak.

    I'd say he's been affected. He has an axe to grind....probably still has nightmares about it also.

    come on Roland you know its bad politics in this case. You think he would have been a Senetor for this long he was unstable? With people like Rupert Murdock and Reverand Moonie Loonie around? McCain would have been toast a long time ago. And you know it!
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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    theroachman wrote:
    come on Roland you know it bad politics in this case. You think he would have been a Senetor for this long he was unstable? With people like Rupert Murdock and Reverand Moonie Loonie around? McCain would have been toast a long time ago. And you know it!

    Becoming President is like turning up the amplification on idiosyncrasies, so to speak, as more responsibility is given and to much greater stresses. It's a bit different, and a lot of people would want as stable and unaffected person as possible making such broad policy decisions. The guy has been affected by it, there is no escaping that part. Dig a lot deeper under more pressure, and who knows how he reacts. Repression tends to surface under duress. It will hurt his chances.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • spongersponger Posts: 3,159
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    It's a bit different, and a lot of people would want as stable and unaffected person as possible making such broad policy decisions.

    You mean like GW, who probably never worked a hard day in his life before being elected? Experience under pressure counts, and I think it's safe to say McCain probably knows a lot more about keeping it cool under pressure than the average privileged politician.

    Some kids get bullied through school and show up one day with a shotgun. Others chalk it up to life and move on. People react differently to stress. The fact that McCain endured traumatic circumstances does not mean he needs a prozac prescription and a meeting with his therapist every week.
    reigning champion

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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    sponger wrote:
    You mean like GW, who probably never worked a hard day in his life before being elected? Experience under pressure counts, and I think it's safe to say McCain probably knows a lot more about keeping it cool under pressure than the average privileged politician.


    If he does have a cool head, he should show more of it....he wants to wage war if it means 100 or even 1000 more years of fighting.

    Sounds really cool headed to me.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • spongersponger Posts: 3,159
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    If he does have a cool head, he should show more of it....he wants to wage war if it means 100 or even 1000 more years of fighting.

    Sounds really cool headed to me.

    It doesn't matter who gets elected, that war will not end for years. At least McCain is honest about it.
    reigning champion

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    sponger wrote:
    It doesn't matter who gets elected, that war will not end for years. At least McCain is honest about it.

    some say honest...others say stupid. ;)
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • spongersponger Posts: 3,159
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    some say honest...others say stupid. ;)


    Stupid is believing politicians who say otherwise.
    reigning champion

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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    sponger wrote:
    Stupid is believing politicians who say otherwise.


    Stupid is voting for those who say they aren'tt even willing to try in any way shape or form.

    yeah...that would be stupid...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    mookie9999 wrote:
    Please try again.

    hehe damn im busted. see I can make mistakes too. :) and I dont mind being called out on it . sheesh
  • CollinCollin Posts: 4,931
    A bit offtopic but can anyone tell me what the general consensus is on the Vietnam War in the U.S.?
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  • MakingWavesMakingWaves Posts: 1,293
    Collin wrote:
    A bit offtopic but can anyone tell me what the general consensus is on the Vietnam War in the U.S.?

    I will try. It was a fucked up war that the politicians wanted and ran and therefore led to the US being embarassed. Sounds familiar....
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