Revolution in the next couple years

BogoEN

GreenTeaDisease wrote:

ok, first of all, I'm in a masters program at one of the best environment schools in the world, and I can assure you that there will be fish in 2050.

The findings were for edible fish, as in the small percentage of fish of the ocean the public consumes. Shrimp etc as well.

I work at a grocery store and we have had a shortage of Salmon, shrimp and Tilapia for quite a while, and our bullitens usually say "fish shortage".

miller8966

TheVoiceInside wrote:

But hes still giving America the middle finger after all these years.

And we've told him many times to kiss our ass.

Obsidian22

A revolution can happen, but action is needed.
I just saw "V" on Sunday and it hit me like a brick to the head.I read the graphic novel and refrained from seeing it protrayed on the big screen with hollywood actors. It was an excellent interpretation. An idea that came to fruition.

miller8966

Obsidian22 wrote:

A revolution can happen, but action is needed.
I just saw "V" on Sunday and it hit me like a brick to the head.I read the graphic novel and refrained from seeing it protrayed on the big screen with hollywood actors. It was an excellent interpretation. An idea that came to fruition.

A. You dont believe in guns

B. Running on a tofu diet will not help your energy during a war.

miller8966

flywallyfly wrote:

Castro or Reagan ?

Reagan actually did something. People werent fleeing america in boats to go to Cuba were they??

Obsidian22

I am not a vegetarian. Tofu gives you the shits!! Your mind is more powerful than you think. Numbers of people speak louder than words of a few.

surferdude

Cheguevara6 wrote:

I think my generation will have a revolution in the next couple years.

The general level of apathy is way too high for there to be any type of rebellion or revolution.

sigh eternally

we need a dick tater.

69charger

Jeanwah wrote:

Weather Affects Color Intensity

Temperature, light, and water supply have an influence on the degree and the duration of fall color. Low temperatures above freezing willfavor anthocyanin formation producing bright reds in maples. However, early frost will weaken the brilliant red color. Rainy and/or overcast days tend to increase the intensity of fall colors.

From http://www.esf.edu/pubprog/brochure/leaves/leaves.htm

That's not what Che said. He said "Recent news reports show that those fall leaves, those colorful leaves we all love, will no longer turn colors as a result of global warming in a few years."

That's not true. Plus every article I've ever seen says warmer weather generally produces better color.

Jeanwah

69charger wrote:

Plus every article I've ever seen says warmer weather generally produces better color.

So, you're saying that the SUNY college of Environment Science and Forestry is wrong (the link I posted)? If it stayed warm here in the Northeast in the Fall, color wouldn't be as vibrant.
Anyway, here's some more proof that it's the combination of less sunlight and cooler temps that cause leaves to change color.

A succession of warm, sunny days and cool, crisp but not freezing nights seems to bring about the most spectacular color displays. During these days, lots of sugars are produced in the leaf but the cool nights and the gradual closing of veins going into the leaf prevent these sugars from moving out.
From: http://www.accuweather.com/iwxpage/paws/fallfaq.htm#weather


Perhaps you've noticed that in some years, the red fall colors seem brighter and more spectacular than in other years. The temperature and cloud cover can make a big difference in a tree's red colors from year to year.

When a number of warm, sunny autumn days and cool but not freezing nights come one after the other, it's going to be a good year for reds. In the daytime, the leaves can produce lots of sugar, but the cool night temperatures prevent the sugar sap from flowing through the leaf veins and down into the branches and trunk.
From http://www.dnr.state.wi.us/org/caer/ce/eek/veg/trees/treestruecolor.htm#color

GreenTeaDisease

BogoEN wrote:

The findings were for edible fish, as in the small percentage of fish of the ocean the public consumes. Shrimp etc as well.

I work at a grocery store and we have had a shortage of Salmon, shrimp and Tilapia for quite a while, and our bullitens usually say "fish shortage".

there are always shortages of certain types of fish. I'm definitely not saying it's a good thing, but don't go around telling people that every species of fish on the planet will be wiped out within 45 years.

soulsinging

surferdude wrote:

The general level of apathy is way too high for there to be any type of rebellion or revolution.

i second that sentiment. the vast majority of americans could not care less. if any rebellion occurs it will be when third world countries (or developing nations or whatever term is PC these days) decide they've had enough of being fucked over and launch a full scale counterattack against the western world. if that occurs, i will happily take up arms. long as it comes from africa or asia. im not signing up with the islamo-fascists or the capitalists.

problem is, when they take over we'll be no better off. not unless about half the earth's population is killed in the process.

Obsidian22

Revolution is not something fixed in ideology, nor is it something fashioned
to a particular decade. It is a perpetual process embedded in the
Human Spirit.
-Abbie Hoffman

Androgynous Mind

yieldtome wrote:

Revolution? Ha, cute. We really do have it too fuckin' good in this country. Is it perfect? Hell no, but that's a condition of the fallibility of human judgement. "Oh how wonderous it will be when we revolt, and make everything harmonious and beautiful, and install a 'just' government!" Give me a break. At best, your concept of a glorious revolution is naive and idealistic. If you hate the current political climate so badly, why don't you run for office and attempt to make a difference in a non-violent manner. Because a revolution on the scale of which you speak could not be achieved bloodlessly.

Thank you for being realistic. Revolution? What a joke.

gue_barium

I think Neil Young is onto something.

kenny olav

Byrnzie wrote:

Persnally, I don't think people will do anything until they are forced to do something in order to survive, or to hang onto all the crap that they/we take for granted - material crap.
People are just too apathetic.
Then again...Castro et al managed to otherthrow the U.S in Cuba, and the Ruskies in 1917 overthrew an entrenched sysyem/society off of their own backs, for example, so who knows.
Revolution is possible. I just think the climate needs to be right, and at the moment I don't feel that it is. I mean, if we couldn't prevent our Governments invading Iraq - and the majority of the population rose up in protest before the invasion - then how are we gonna prevent an environmental catastrophe? I reckon nature will just have to put us right herself.

That's pretty much the way I see it too. People won't revolt unless they feel it's necessary to survive. In Cuba, the people were very desperate and living under a military dictatorship. It is a small country, and was fairly easy for a guerilla army to take over (and establish a new military dictatorship, albeit a more fair one). In Russia, the Bolsheviks were not great in numbers. I'm not an expert on Russian history, but I think the Tzarist regime at that point in history was fairly easy to overthrow and it didn't need a mass uprising. It wouldn't be nearly as easy in the United States, at least at the present moment. We would need at least a decade of chaos. And I doubt having a revolution would solve that chaos.

Mookie1976

"Is this just another phase? earthquakes making waves...
Trying to shake the cancer off? stupid human beings..."

If we wont change things then mother earth will take care of it... Its our choice... Act or re-act... Thats what I think about it.

Byrnzie

miller8966 wrote:

Reagan actually did something.

He certainly did. Just ask anyone from Latin America.