Revolution in the next couple years

musicismylife78

I think my generation will have a revolution in the next couple years. We will overthrow this rotten system and install something more humane. Our generation isnt dumb. The fact that our brothers and sisters are dying in iraq every day isnt lost on them. Nor is the fact our world is being polluted and murdered by people who could care less. Recent news reports show that those fall leaves, those colorful leaves we all love, will no longer turn colors as a result of global warming in a few years. Their isnt one woman who doesnt have tainted breast milk. Their isnt one stream, pond, lake, or ocean that isnt polluted. Over 30 countries in the next few years will have the capabilities for nuclear weapons. And the BBC reports that by 2050 ALL FISH will be extinct. You read that right. Youngsters today, 2, 3 years old will be alive at a time when their are no fish.

The question remains what the hell will we do about it. Our parents tried, protested and rebelled. We seem more apathetic, but I still dont imagine our generation just standing by and watching it all turn to hell. We have to do something.

I plan on being their on the revolution day, when our troops come home, I will hug them, and tell them I am sorry for sending them to war.

The soldiers will lay down their weapons, and pick up plows, hoes, and other such items, and begin tearing up concrete. Begin to grow our own food, and grow community gardens. We all will begin to listen to the earth, and ask what it wants, instead of taking and not listening. We will listen to the salmon. We will tear down all dams.

Heres what Uncle Neil says about all this:

The environment is becoming a much bigger issue for today's young people than anyone thought it would be, and they're banding together much like we did in the '60s. The conditions in the world today -- the war, the rise of conservatism, the corporate monopolies, the way media has made everything about the surface impression rather than the issues underneath -- are a breeding ground for an underground the likes of which we haven't seen since Nixon was in power."

Are you hopeful for the generation that's coming through, say, between the ages of fifteen and thirty?

Neil Young: I have a lot of hope for them. I really do. I think as the environment and the governments around the world, the way they treat the environment, becomes more of an issue to these kids and they see that they're inheriting the fruits of these policies that are so based in the present, I think that the kids are going to rise up and we're going to be able to count on them to make a change.

Interviewer: Rise up in terms of rebellion, or maybe just replacing the leaders that are there now?

Neil Young: It can be whatever it has to be. You can call it rebellion or revolution or change or whatever. It doesn't matter what form it takes. Hopefully it's not violent, but nonetheless it has to happen. It's the way the world works; it's the way things work. So I think they're due.

They're due. They've got a lot to think about. These world trade organisation meetings and things like that that you see around the world - wherever they are these people are showing up. That's the outer fringe. There's a lot of people who are starting to figure out what's going on with these world manipulations of markets and food and all kinds of stuff and killing the environment off with not really much of a future plan.

I think kids going to college today are learning this. They're intelligent; they've got the media, they've got the internet, they've got ways of getting together they never had before. They've got all kinds of people and eventually there's going to be some superheroes come out of there that are going to start movements. It's gonna happen."

my2hands

Cheguevara6 wrote:

I think my generation will have a revolution in the next couple years. We will overthrow this rotten system and install something more humane. Our generation isnt dumb. The fact that our brothers and sisters are dying in iraq every day isnt lost on them. Nor is the fact our world is being polluted and murdered by people who could care less. Recent news reports show that those fall leaves, those colorful leaves we all love, will no longer turn colors as a result of global warming in a few years. Their isnt one woman who doesnt have tainted breast milk. Their isnt one stream, pond, lake, or ocean that isnt polluted. Over 30 countries in the next few years will have the capabilities for nuclear weapons. And the BBC reports that by 2050 ALL FISH will be extinct. You read that right. Youngsters today, 2, 3 years old will be alive at a time when their are no fish.

The question remains what the hell will we do about it. Our parents tried, protested and rebelled. We seem more apathetic, but I still dont imagine our generation just standing by and watching it all turn to hell. We have to do something.

I plan on being their on the revolution day, when our troops come home, I will hug them, and tell them I am sorry for sending them to war.

The soldiers will lay down their weapons, and pick up plows, hoes, and other such items, and begin tearing up concrete. Begin to grow our own food, and grow community gardens. We all will begin to listen to the earth, and ask what it wants, instead of taking and not listening. We will listen to the salmon. We will tear down all dams.

Heres what Uncle Neil says about all this:

The environment is becoming a much bigger issue for today's young people than anyone thought it would be, and they're banding together much like we did in the '60s. The conditions in the world today -- the war, the rise of conservatism, the corporate monopolies, the way media has made everything about the surface impression rather than the issues underneath -- are a breeding ground for an underground the likes of which we haven't seen since Nixon was in power."

Are you hopeful for the generation that's coming through, say, between the ages of fifteen and thirty?

Neil Young: I have a lot of hope for them. I really do. I think as the environment and the governments around the world, the way they treat the environment, becomes more of an issue to these kids and they see that they're inheriting the fruits of these policies that are so based in the present, I think that the kids are going to rise up and we're going to be able to count on them to make a change.

Interviewer: Rise up in terms of rebellion, or maybe just replacing the leaders that are there now?

Neil Young: It can be whatever it has to be. You can call it rebellion or revolution or change or whatever. It doesn't matter what form it takes. Hopefully it's not violent, but nonetheless it has to happen. It's the way the world works; it's the way things work. So I think they're due.

They're due. They've got a lot to think about. These world trade organisation meetings and things like that that you see around the world - wherever they are these people are showing up. That's the outer fringe. There's a lot of people who are starting to figure out what's going on with these world manipulations of markets and food and all kinds of stuff and killing the environment off with not really much of a future plan.

I think kids going to college today are learning this. They're intelligent; they've got the media, they've got the internet, they've got ways of getting together they never had before. They've got all kinds of people and eventually there's going to be some superheroes come out of there that are going to start movements. It's gonna happen."

link for that interview?

69charger

Cheguevara6 wrote:

Recent news reports show that those fall leaves, those colorful leaves we all love, will no longer turn colors as a result of global warming in a few years.

The changing colors of the leaves are controlled by the seasonal change in the amount of sunlight avaliable to the tree not temperature. So as long as the Earth's is tilted on it's same wobbly axis, we'll have pretty leaves in the fall.

Just thought I'd point that out.

miller8966

I love how global warming has just become an issue in the last few years..you cant chance the earths atmosphere in that short a period of time.

Byrnzie

miller8966 wrote:

I love how global warming has just become an issue in the last few years..you cant chance the earths atmosphere in that short a period of time.

The last couple of years?

Have you been on an extended vacation? Hope you had a nice time. Anyway, wecome back to reality!

Byrnzie

Persnally, I don't think people will do anything until they are forced to do something in order to survive, or to hang onto all the crap that they/we take for granted - material crap.
People are just too apathetic.
Then again...Castro et al managed to otherthrow the U.S in Cuba, and the Ruskies in 1917 overthrew an entrenched sysyem/society off of their own backs, for example, so who knows.
Revolution is possible. I just think the climate needs to be right, and at the moment I don't feel that it is. I mean, if we couldn't prevent our Governments invading Iraq - and the majority of the population rose up in protest before the invasion - then how are we gonna prevent an environmental catastrophe? I reckon nature will just have to put us right herself.

miller8966

Byrnzie wrote:

Persnally, I don't think people will do anything until they are forced to do something in order to survive, or to hang onto all the crap that they/we take for granted - material crap.
People are just too apathetic.
Then again...Castro et al managed to otherthrow the U.S in Cuba, and the Ruskies in 1917 overthrew an entrenched sysyem/society off of their own .

Yea and Castro and the Soviet Union turned out real well....

Jeanwah

69charger wrote:

The changing colors of the leaves are controlled by the seasonal change in the amount of sunlight avaliable to the tree not temperature. So as long as the Earth's is tilted on it's same wobbly axis, we'll have pretty leaves in the fall.

Just thought I'd point that out.

Weather Affects Color Intensity

Temperature, light, and water supply have an influence on the degree and the duration of fall color. Low temperatures above freezing willfavor anthocyanin formation producing bright reds in maples. However, early frost will weaken the brilliant red color. Rainy and/or overcast days tend to increase the intensity of fall colors.

From http://www.esf.edu/pubprog/brochure/leaves/leaves.htm

Solat13

miller8966 wrote:

I love how global warming has just become an issue in the last few years..you cant chance the earths atmosphere in that short a period of time.

I know. I remember going to grade school and high school in the late 80s and early 90s and all we warned about was the impending ice age. I wonder what scientists will warn us about next in about 2015. :rolleyes:

LikeAnOcean

miller8966 wrote:

I love how global warming has just become an issue in the last few years..you cant chance the earths atmosphere in that short a period of time.

I'm 28 years old. I've been hearing about global warming since my 4th grade teacher tought it to us.. Last couple of years? Maybe it feels that short if your going on 90.

Jeanwah

Cheguevara6 wrote:

I think my generation will have a revolution in the next couple years. We will overthrow this rotten system and install something more humane. Our generation isnt dumb. The fact that our brothers and sisters are dying in iraq every day isnt lost on them. Nor is the fact our world is being polluted and murdered by people who could care less. Recent news reports show that those fall leaves, those colorful leaves we all love, will no longer turn colors as a result of global warming in a few years. Their isnt one woman who doesnt have tainted breast milk. Their isnt one stream, pond, lake, or ocean that isnt polluted. Over 30 countries in the next few years will have the capabilities for nuclear weapons. And the BBC reports that by 2050 ALL FISH will be extinct. You read that right. Youngsters today, 2, 3 years old will be alive at a time when their are no fish.

The question remains what the hell will we do about it. Our parents tried, protested and rebelled. We seem more apathetic, but I still dont imagine our generation just standing by and watching it all turn to hell. We have to do something.

I plan on being their on the revolution day, when our troops come home, I will hug them, and tell them I am sorry for sending them to war.

The soldiers will lay down their weapons, and pick up plows, hoes, and other such items, and begin tearing up concrete. Begin to grow our own food, and grow community gardens. We all will begin to listen to the earth, and ask what it wants, instead of taking and not listening. We will listen to the salmon. We will tear down all dams.

Heres what Uncle Neil says about all this...

I love your mindframe, and I love Uncle Neil, he's right on. Unfortunately, I have the mind of a realist, instead of an optomist and I need a lot of convincing to think that this generation will turn things around. Just from reading posts on here from those who insist on holding onto their ignorant views of global warming and that "we aren't responsible for anything" really upsets me. I do think we can overcome the system, and the corrupt way things are, but it's going to take a lot of work. Anyhow, I'm up for it!

chopitdown

Solat13 wrote:

I know. I remember going to grade school and high school in the late 80s and early 90s and all we warned about was the impending ice age. I wonder what scientists will warn us about next in about 2015. :rolleyes:

it's now global changing. Scientists are convinced that the earth will either get warm or cold, with the patterns changing every 3 months or so.

yieldtome

Revolution? Ha, cute. We really do have it too fuckin' good in this country. Is it perfect? Hell no, but that's a condition of the fallibility of human judgement. "Oh how wonderous it will be when we revolt, and make everything harmonious and beautiful, and install a 'just' government!" Give me a break. At best, your concept of a glorious revolution is naive and idealistic. If you hate the current political climate so badly, why don't you run for office and attempt to make a difference in a non-violent manner. Because a revolution on the scale of which you speak could not be achieved bloodlessly.

Byrnzie

miller8966 wrote:

Yea and Castro and the Soviet Union turned out real well....

Castro's what, 80 and counting? Not a bad innings if you ask me.

miller8966

Byrnzie wrote:

Castro's what, 80 and counting? Not a bad innings if you ask me.

yes 80 and senile..congrats. lol

flywallyfly

miller8966 wrote:

yes 80 and senile..congrats. lol

Castro or Reagan ?

TheVoiceInside

miller8966 wrote:

yes 80 and senile..congrats. lol

But hes still giving America the middle finger after all these years.

BogoEN

I don't see a revolution happening anytime soon, and I hate the way the system works. But it is, sadly, better than most. And as for our generation not being apathetic? Whoa. Most young folks (i'm one too) that I know care more about what's on their IPod than the Midterm elections, let alone even thinking they needed a revolution. They don't care. As long as they are warm and happy, nothing will change. It's just not realistic to think otherwise, this country's political system is far more stable than some former South or Central American countries where revolution is viable. It doesn't make sense, anyway. Yea, it's terrible to read about wiretapping, torture, a botched Occupation (and illegal), and bad education, huge defecit, attacks on Roe vs. Wade and science, journalism, and non-christian views. But seriously, basic rights are all still here for most Americans. I do mean basic, but they are there. Revolution happens when the right to live is taken away from the masses. That still hasn't happened yet, we just took a few steps backward.

TheVoiceInside

too much sex, drugs, and rock n roll. There will never be a revolution. Will talk when people are starving and dead in the streets. then you could see a revolution but as long as their is relative safety and lots of indulgience(sp?) most people wont bother changing the system.

GreenTeaDisease

ok, first of all, I'm in a masters program at one of the best environment schools in the world, and I can assure you that there will be fish in 2050.

thankyougrandma

it doesn't have to be a violent revolution... just a change in the mindset for several generation could be a major revolution, leading to a major evolution.