Chappelle's show

musicismylife78musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
edited August 2006 in A Moving Train
Anyone here a fan?

I think it will go down in history as one of the most important shows ever. His humor sort of mixes politics, race and satire all together. My question is, do any of you think he was successful in this arena, politically?

I definitely caught on to the political aspect of it, the race draft episode, the race fairy episode, etc... Very socially aware. Yet I wonder if his audience is as politically aware.

My understanding is the reason he walked away was because of politics, that several white crew members laughed to hard at some joke that he felt it bordered on racism. He wondered if he was reinforcing stereotypes as opposed to busting them.

Chappelle seems to be in the line of Pryor, carlin, cho, stewart, cross, bruce, he seems to understand, its fun to make people laugh, but their must be a greater purpose, a political and social purpose.

So whats y'all's take? Was chappelle successful in busting stereotypes and making youth politically aware, or was he merely a modern day step and fetch it (as he himself wondered)?
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  • rebornFixerrebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    I hope that story about white crew members offending Chapelle isn't true ... If it is, I just lost a bit of respect. I thought the whole point was to be politically sensitive and aware, yet at the same time not take everything so damn seriously. If he only wants black people to laugh at his jokes, then I guess he did the right thing by canning his show.
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    I've never seen his show, but I love his stand-up bits. "For What It's Worth" and whatever that newer one was.

    lol.

    "Chivalry is dead, and women killed it!" so true ;)
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  • I love Chappelle and his show was pretty good... great at times.. but this is in no way one of the most important shows in history.

    Not even close, really.

    *shrugs*




    ^ you've never seen his show? O_O

    Where the hell have you been for the last 3 years? :confused:

    His standup is excellent btw :D


    edit: He stopped the show for 2 reasons:

    1. comedy central was trying to push him around.

    and

    2. the newer writing wasn't going to be as good as the original season and he hated the idea of people saying "well this show has certainly gone downhill"
    Come on pilgrim you know he loves you..

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  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    Dave said he left because of the politics of television. He was being asked to do things with his show that he was not comfortable with. I think it was a great move that he left. Very much in charactor. What amazes me is how so many "experts" attacked him - and couldn't understand why he'd pass up so much money. To some, aparantly to Dave Chappelle, money isn't everything.

    He is a brilliant comedian and has a great understanding of people and the life we live today. Can't wait to see what he does next.
  • Abuskedti wrote:
    Dave said he left because of the politics of television. He was being asked to do things with his show that he was not comfortable with. I think it was a great move that he left. Very much in charactor. What amazes me is how so many "experts" attacked him - and couldn't understand why he'd pass up so much money. To some, aparantly to Dave Chappelle, money isn't everything.

    He is a brilliant comedian and has a great understanding of people and the life we live today. Can't wait to see what he does next.
    Yeah i was so happy when i heard he was canning his show. He actually does walk it like he talks it :cool: !
    Come on pilgrim you know he loves you..

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  • I love Dave Chapplle! His show was the funniest thing I've ever seen on tv. His stand up is even funnier, I saw him once in Columbia, SC and my sides hurt from laughing so hard!

    I think his show opened up a lot of discourse that may have seemed too taboo to discuss before.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    ^ you've never seen his show? O_O

    Where the hell have you been for the last 3 years? :confused:

    His standup is excellent btw :D


    edit: He stopped the show for 2 reasons:

    1. comedy central was trying to push him around.

    and

    2. the newer writing wasn't going to be as good as the original season and he hated the idea of people saying "well this show has certainly gone downhill"

    If it's not a movie or available on the internet, I've never seen. I gave up cable TV 10 years ago. Best decision of my life ;)
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus wrote:
    If it's not a movie or available on the internet, I've never seen. I gave up cable TV 10 years ago. Best decision of my life ;)
    ah you are a stronger person than I then :p
    Come on pilgrim you know he loves you..

    http://www.wishlistfoundation.org

    Oh my, they dropped the leash.



    Morgan Freeman/Clint Eastwood 08' for President!

    "Make our day"
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    ah you are a stronger person than I then :p

    I just found that it was really expensive for what it's worth. I would want Comedy Central, Discovery Channel and that's about it. I'm not going to pay if $10/month for something that is 40% advertising. Especially with websites like http://www.saltwaterchimp.com and http://www.wwitv.com ;)
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • PickrPickr Posts: 161
    Daily Show kicks ass over Chappelle anyday with regards to political humor..
    Stix and Stones may break my bones, but More than Words will never hurt me.
  • moeaholicmoeaholic Posts: 535
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I've never seen his show, but I love his stand-up bits.

    yeah, his stand up is completely better than chappelle show was. i've got.......fuck, which one is it.........oh yeah, it's 'killing them softly'. lots of laughs on that one.

    the only espisode of chappelles show that i really laughed hard at was the blind black white supremisist (sp?).
    "PC Load Letter?! What the fuck does that mean?"
    ~Michael Bolton
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    moeaholic wrote:
    yeah, his stand up is completely better than chappelle show was. i've got.......fuck, which one is it.........oh yeah, it's 'killing them softly'. lots of laughs on that one.

    the only espisode of chappelles show that i really laughed hard at was the blind black white supremisist (sp?).

    Yea, Killing them softly, that was the earlier one. The one where he says that quote. He also says "every black dude needs a white friend, need someone to talk to the cops" haha

    He also says white guys that chill with black dudes are even scarier than the black dudes, because they must have done some real shit to get accepted by the black dudes. lol.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • moeaholicmoeaholic Posts: 535
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Yea, Killing them softly, that was the earlier one. The one where he says that quote. He also says "every black dude needs a white friend, need someone to talk to the cops" haha

    He also says white guys that chill with black dudes are even scarier than the black dudes, because they must have done some real shit to get accepted by the black dudes. lol.

    lmao, it's all coming back to me, i haven't watched it in a while. i'll have to pop that in when i get home tonight.

    ernie: "dave.........i'm gonna race 'em."

    dave: "shit man, when you gotta race, you gotta race."
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    ~Michael Bolton
  • keeponrockinkeeponrockin Posts: 7,446
    I have Killin Them Softly, and its brilliant.
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    moeaholic wrote:
    lmao, it's all coming back to me, i haven't watched it in a while. i'll have to pop that in when i get home tonight.

    ernie: "dave.........i'm gonna race 'em."

    dave: "shit man, when you gotta race, you gotta race."

    Haha, he does a good white guy voice too. Haha when he talks to the baby selling weed, haha. "fuck you nigger, I got kids to feed"

    Hahaha, crack heads running up to the car like jurassic park. So good.

    I downloaded it before, but I gotta buy it, it's too good.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    never seen him live, just live on TV, love him! he comes off as a cool guy.
  • the skit with the white family with the last name "Niggar", could quite possibly be the funniest thing i ever saw in my life...he is one funny dude
    "I never make plans that far ahead"
  • the skit with the white family with the last name "Niggar", could quite possibly be the funniest thing i ever saw in my life...he is one funny dude

    That one was pretty damn funny. I found it on youtube

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5dR_hcQ83Y
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Nothing beats the True Hollywood Stories!

    Fuck yo couch, nigga!!
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Nothing beats the True Hollywood Stories!

    Fuck yo couch, nigga!!
    One of these days, i too will know what-the-heck this couch-conundrum phenomenon is all about. :p
    Rarghstarfarian.
  • One of these days, i too will know what-the-heck this couch-conundrum phenomenon is all about. :p

    Just for you :D Enjoy!


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5A5XdQcJ1U
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • melodiousmelodious Posts: 1,719
    Dave Chapelle is extremely funny; but his use of the word, n*gga is highly disrespectful and promotes such. Ask any keepin' it real black brother and they will tell ya so. Try being any other color but black and using the term around some narrow minded bros and sista's and see how far you get. You will either get your ass kicked or cited for tresspassing becasue you couldn't get away quik enough. ;)

    Anyone watch everybody hates chris?
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    melodious wrote:
    Dave Chapelle is extremely funny; but his use of the word, n*gga is highly disrespectful and promotes such. Ask any keepin' it real black brother and they will tell ya so. Try being any other color but black and using the term around some narrow minded bros and sista's and see how far you get. You will either get your ass kicked or cited for tresspassing becasue you couldn't get away quik enough. ;)

    Anyone watch everybody hates chris?

    If I used the term out of Jest and some dude took offense to it and actually tried to hurt me, I'd crack his skull. That's just stupid.

    FYI, I live in a neighbourhood that's about 50/50 black/white
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • melodious wrote:
    Dave Chapelle is extremely funny; but his use of the word, n*gga is highly disrespectful and promotes such. Ask any keepin' it real black brother and they will tell ya so. Try being any other color but black and using the term around some narrow minded bros and sista's and see how far you get. You will either get your ass kicked or cited for tresspassing becasue you couldn't get away quik enough. ;)

    Anyone watch everybody hates chris?

    A couple of my black friends from work joke with me about Chappelle Show all the time. We play around saying quotes from the show but I always leave out the N word because I just can't say it around them even jokingly... it's just too weird. But they think it's so 'cute' that I won't say and even try to coax me into saying it. They have always said that it is obvious when someone is joking and when someone is being offensive, especially when we are just talking about a comedy show and are good friends..
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • melodiousmelodious Posts: 1,719
    Hey A & abook!
    Thanks for replying. Yesterday my beloved s/m was buzzing a bit and he didn't have any tobacco; so he mozied across the street from his family's cabin and tried to make a trade. He said he was talking to them and out of his mouth came those taboo words. I am not exagerrating when he came home, he was all anxiety ridden. He said that the elders didn't find offense in the word, but the younger adults told him to get off their property. He looked at the elders and they said, "We know you mean no harm; but it's not our place and they want you to go.." He left. When we talked about it, I reminded him that he is of the white race in times where everyonne is sensitive to even the slightest error. Do you think that both of you live in areas where you are familiar with environment and know how to navigate, and that his example could be becasue of a povertized, unintelligibe mindset. He could not believe he was taken seriously... My community is probably 70% red-neck, 15% Mis hermanos and 15% blacks (and blacks are newer residents, coming from Oakland, Richmond, Bay Area). He felt so unnerved today; he compared it to fear of being arrested. How can I help him? My best to both of you.

    book: u know i value your insights; i come to you with open ears...and by rednecks; i mean uneducated poverty oriented and that mentality....no disrespect....help me to abolish confusion...tx.book
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  • melodiousmelodious Posts: 1,719
    Ahnimus wrote:
    If I used the term out of Jest and some dude took offense to it and actually tried to hurt me, I'd crack his skull. That's just stupid.

    FYI, I live in a neighbourhood that's about 50/50 black/white
    see post above this and you are welcome to give input.... not only welcomed but interested to hear what you say..and if you didn't want to crack a skull, how would decipher?

    i forgot to add that i am asking you becasue i have respected your posts here at m/t.
    all insanity:
    a derivitive of nature.
    nature is god
    god is love
    love is light
  • barakabaraka Posts: 1,268
    I love Chapelle! Loved his show and love his standup. I think his show was very clever and fresh. I think, in addition to TV political issues, he wanted to end his show on a high note, much like Jerry Seinfeld & Larry David did with
    'Seinfeld'.
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    but the illusion of knowledge.
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    melodious wrote:
    see post above this and you are welcome to give input.... not only welcomed but interested to hear what you say..and if you didn't want to crack a skull, how would decipher?

    i forgot to add that i am asking you becasue i have respected your posts here at m/t.

    Well, to be honest, I don't recall ever saying it to a black person, but I might have and nothing came out of it. I just think it's ignorant and childish to take serious offense to it and I wouldn't back down. I think many of the minorities and especially blacks use fear to control people, because white people are always afraid of saying something taboo, when really I don't think they take offense to it. I am in public all the time speaking my point of view, about homosexuals, blacks, natives, women, you name it, I speak my mind and I've yet to have someone approach me upset.

    Cracking their skull may not be the best way to deal with it. But in self-defense I'd do anything, I'd try to use proportionate force, but sometimes that's not easy when your life is on the line.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • melodiousmelodious Posts: 1,719
    Hey A:
    Great med....and food for thought.
    all insanity:
    a derivitive of nature.
    nature is god
    god is love
    love is light
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