Collapse, its occuring....

know1

London Calling wrote:

huh?? What does that mean?

It's utter ignorance, that's what it is. It demonstrates a complete naivete in viewing the world, and discredits anything that precedes or follows it (which didn't need any help).

I say it's ignorance because anyone who views people in terms of nationality or skin color and automatically assigns personality attributes to them based upon that is racist and ignorant.

dkst0426

Me? The baby?

Who's the one complaining about being accused of something that wasn't even said in the first place?

WickedJeremy

Cheguevara6 wrote:

probably because kids cant get elected you have to be 35 to get elected.

Their arent any 18-28 year olds in office that I know of and in 2008 none will run for office.

Thus its the people I just mentioned 50 year old baby boomers. Not too hard to figure out. Watch Cnn, they arent talking about issues that effect the youth.

Reguarding my statement to whites its pretty clear. This isnt Marxist theortics here.

If you are white, you must realize their are many many non whites engaged in bringing down the system, resisting in all manner to the destruction of their lives and earth. Whites by and large are choosing, choosing not to fight.

Again I pose the statement;
Whites must choose sides.

Its funny no one discussed the news reports I mentioned, everyone is responding to the tone of my message.

Certainly North Korea testing nukes is bad, and certainly, the thing about the environment is bad.

What is the consensus on that stuff?

Bush's statement that he will "respond" to North Korea and the info leaked from CIA and white house aides that the US is close to invaded Iran is troubling.

Instead of making fun of me, it might be nice especially in Moving Train, named after a book by essential socialist critic Howard Zinn, that we look at whats going on

The sky is falling. You may be too blind to see it, but it is. I would bet if North Korea dropped the bomb on us, the idiot who sort of was wimpy and didnt even address the issue, I am sure if that happened, that person would be saying something quite different


AGain, Lets bring the system down. You Choose to be on the side of the people, or the corporation.

I think you are speaking great words in your defense here. I must say however, that before we go with you to investigate this thing you are fired up about we need to see what you're about and why you bring it to us. We are a cautious and mindful people, I'd like to think. I understand there is a racial reality. But you keep speaking worldy things through mought of a white man. We wonder if you are seeing the world through human eyes or WMA eyes.

But yes, something may need to be done. We may need to hide. Don't know if it's safe tonight. I agree though, don't get me wrong, white people are in an especially unique position. Unatural and regrettful, but unique. But, really, not all that unlike any other. But then again...

jeffbr

Cheguevara6 wrote:

By and large, the majority of whites in America, are living their white lives. White picket fences, white kids, white jobs, white houses. They are paying taxes and not doing anything to stop the war.

So in order for the system to change for the war to stop, whites need to look to other races who have started to resist.

You haven't made a single, convincing arguement. Why would a white want to leave their cushy whiteness and join the "other races" as you say. And what about the asians? Do you lump them in with the whites, or with the blacks and browns? Because asians seem to be very concerned about the same issues you attribute to the whites (school, job, family). Come to think of it, I know a bunch of brown (hispanic) people with those same concerns. And wait, I know black families with those concerns, too. So who are you actually talking about?

As near as I can figure, the people who are concerned about revolution are the ones who don't have jobs, education, or family to keep them grounded. Maybe you should concentrate on those things rather than blaming whitey. Elevate your station in life.

dkst0426

Isn't Cindy Sheehan white?

And Michael Moore?

And Ed Harris?

And the Baldwins?

WindNoSail

Cheguevara6 wrote:

call it what you want. My names Cheguevara on the board. Dont know many racists who hold che up as a hero.

Secondly, to state that blacks and latinos, have begin to fight isnt racist. its a fact.

maybe read my posts before calling me a racist!

Its funny, I think of pearl jam fans as being really intelligent, but most of the posts here with the exception of a few have been really ignorant and silly.

Maybe I should repeat it again, I have said it several times before, obviously people like DKST cant read.

I want to stop the war and overthrow this capitalist system and put in its place something more humane.

In order to do that, we have to do more than just sit around and do nothing. Its going to require people to give up certain things. Its going to require people sacrificing their jobs or whatever.

The iraqis are fighting the u.s., they have begun the fight. Their are a host of other races that have begun to fight, to resist, to stop the u.s. and work toward a more rational society. A society based on human rights, justice, peace, equality.

By and large, the majority of whites in America, are living their white lives. White picket fences, white kids, white jobs, white houses. They are paying taxes and not doing anything to stop the war.

So in order for the system to change for the war to stop, whites need to look to other races who have started to resist.

This isnt that hard to comprehend. Its basic revolution 101 here guys.

Most whites arent going to start the revolution, most whites are worried about their jobs, and school, etc...

Let me just start by saying your tone is disturbing, and actually barbaric.

Why the hell would any person decide that violence is the way to go, and then try to say it is the boogie man's fault and he needs to be brought down. You are no different than all the other fools in history that have bought the violence speeches of vile men that caused nothing but harm and sadness to millions. You provide no solutions but rather are part of the destructive forces that have always exsited.

Come to my house and try to start a revolution and I will fuck you up before I let you burn down my life and my family and all that I have worked for.

If you don't have anything that you can count as worthy of protection it is your own damn fault, but don't try and take it from me.

You seriously need to rethink your life, because you advocate violence under the pretense of bringing a better way.

LikeAnOcean

It's the end of the world as we know it..... and I feel fine.

musicismylife78

i think its hilarious, I am a pacifist, yet my tone is violent and disturbing.

Very interesting. Brings back my argument that people arent looking at the substance of what i am saying. I never said I wanted people to use violence. Quite the contrary.

People need to take the cotton out of their ears, and read

fragileblake

Cheguevara6 wrote:

People need to take the cotton out of their ears, and read

dude, I can read with cotton in my ears, now if it was over my eyes, that would be different. See, you read with your eyes. Your ears are what you hear with man. I guess they haven't had a story like that on http://www.fatalistbullshit.com in awhile.

dkst0426

fragileblake wrote:

dude, I can read with cotton in my ears, now if it was over my eyes, that would be different. See, you read with your eyes. Your ears are what you hear with man. I guess they haven't had a story like that on http://www.fatalistbullshit.com in awhile.

ROFLMAO............I fell for it. So fell for it.

London Calling

Cheguevara6 wrote:

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We especially whites need to decide which side we want to be on. The poor and brown, black, all have begun to fight. We need to fight right by their side for the same cause. We need to change society.

i was thinking that was a really odd statement, but it make sense now

White riot - I wanna riot
White riot - a riot of my own
White riot - I wanna riot
White riot - a riot of my own

Black man gotta lot a problems
But they don't mind throwing a brick
White people go to school
Where they teach you how to be thick

An' everybody's doing
Just what they're told to
An' nobody wants
To go to jail!

White riot - I wanna riot
White riot - a riot of my own
White riot - I wanna riot
White riot - a riot of my own
All the power's in the hands
Of people rich enough to buy it

While we walk the street
Too chicken to even try it

Everybody's doing
Just what they're told to
Nobody wants
To go to jail!

White riot - I wanna riot
White riot - a riot of my own
White riot - I wanna riot
White riot - a riot of my own

Are you taking over
or are you taking orders?
Are you going backwards
Or are you going forwards?

White riot - I wanna riot
White riot - a riot of my own
White riot - I wanna riot
White riot - a riot of my own



Next time you should just quote the Clash, then we'll all understand

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Cheguevara6 wrote:

call it what you want. My names Cheguevara on the board. Dont know many racists who hold che up as a hero.
...

I dont know any non-attention whores that hold Che up as a hero either. Che was a murderer that died wearing a rolex watch.

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You keep saying that Iraq Civilians are starting a revolution by fighting US troops.... hmmm.... is it also a revolution when they are killing more of thier own civilivans than troops? And put the down the "start a revolution 101" book, they're killing each other, a majority of the time, because of religieous differences. Those zealots over there NEED dictators to keep the peace.

God, some people's overboard hippy kids.

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1 More thing. Please provide some proof, articles, whatever where "non-whites are united in starting a revolution". This has got the be the dumbest statement i've heard on MT. (or close to it)

audome25

"the minorites are clearly siding with the oppressed. Look at Iraqi civilians, cuban civilians, venezuelan civilians."

clearly, that's why sadam and castro were overthrown. Do you have latino in you? Lived there at all? You don't seem to have a very good grasp on those places. Chavez has been a side step at best for the average venezuelan.