Hillary and 2008 elections

Scubascott

Austicman wrote:

Would love to see Al Gore run one more time. He'd romp it in I reckon. Imagine how much less shit the US would be in if you voted for the boring guy in the last 2 presidential elections.

Off Subject: The Australian Labour Party has had a leadership change(2 major partys in Australia, Liberals and Labour. John Howards Liberals are in power at the moment). What is most excellent about this is that Ex Midnight Oil frontmen Peter Garrett MP has been promised a front bench shadow ministery position under the new leadership of Kevin Rudd. He already hold the portfolios of indigenous affairs and reconcilliation(anyone remember the sorry T-Shirts Midnight Oil wore at the Olympics games opening ceremony in Sydney 2000, was an apology to the Aboriginals for past attrocities), the Arts and he just got a new one of water management(the drought in Oz is at epic proportions) This all sounds very trivial at the moments, but this is a massive day of change in Australia politics. And here's hoping Garrett goes all the way to the top job. If he does you will see a whole world changing for the better.

Garret for Prime Minister eh? I don't know. I can't see the labor party ever electing him as their leader. I think he has too many image and credibility problems at this early stage in his career as a labor politician. Australia still sees him as the rock star that sold out on his ideals to chase a career in mainstream politics. Give him five or ten years to prove himself first.

Scubascott

IWillLiveForeve wrote:

2. Name recognition might not work in her favor. Her hubby rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.

He rubbed a few the right way too apparently. Or they rubbed him . . .

I couldn't resist.

Austicman

Scubascott wrote:

Garret for Prime Minister eh? I don't know. I can't see the labor party ever electing him as their leader. I think he has too many image and credibility problems at this early stage in his career as a labor politician. Australia still sees him as the rock star that sold out on his ideals to chase a career in mainstream politics. Give him five or ten years to prove himself first.

No doubt about it his biggest challenge will be for the leadership of the Labour party. But I do think even if were elected instead of Rudd yesterday the Australia public would give him a go. A agree he has had image problems but disagree with the creditability and sell out side of the argument. He has never hidden his ambition to lead this country and the reality is this was the only way he was ever going to be able to do it.

But yes I do worry about what it going to take to get him elected as the party leader.

Arainea

Austicman wrote:

Would love to see Al Gore run one more time. He'd romp it in I reckon. Imagine how much less shit the US would be in if you voted for the boring guy in the last 2 presidential elections.

I think it is important to point out that Al Gore won the popular vote. More people voted for Gore than Bush, but Gore lost because of how the votes were distributed via the electoral college. The electoral college is a horribly out-of-date system, and I can't imagine why we Americans weren't marching in the streets after that election and calling for its abolition.

Androgynous Mind

Hillary won't win.

America is definately not ready for a woman in the Oval Office.

The Dems better try a different approach. I dont think McCain is right for the job. Obama has good speaking skills, but he may not be seasoned enough. I do think a Dem will be elected, but I still think the Republicans will put up a tight race.

LikeAnOcean

sapperskunk wrote:

If McCain throws his hat in nobody stands a chance, a lot of people from both sides love that guy.

I hope it comes down to McCain and Obama, so I can vote third party, but not feel guilty if either of them wins. I tend to like them both.

BridgeBitch

jeffbr wrote:

I'm sure the Republicans are hoping she gets the nod.

I agree. She's the Republicans wet dream. If she runs they are guaranteed a win.