choke chains

sponger

I think they should be illegal. What you do guys think?

PaperPlates

My girl loves hers.

sapperskunk

I'm not a big fan of choke chains. Waste of money IMO.

Why buy a chain, when a sleeper hold or a scorpion death lock would suffice?

Collin

sapperskunk wrote:

Why buy a chain, when a sleeper hold or a scorpion death lock would suffice?

Laziness, I guess.

farfromglorified

I'm not a fan of choke chains, and have never used them on my dogs. However, in the hands of someone who knows how to use them, they can be both effective and non-abusive.

They shouldn't be illegal.

sponger

farfromglorified wrote:

However, in the hands of someone who knows how to use them, they can be both effective and non-abusive.

Couldn't the same be said about other types of leashes?

pjamdude69

I'd like to get one for my dog.. If only because I'm pissed off at the fucker for knocking over the $250 fountain I bought my wife last summer. Broke both the heads of the cherubs, so we've got headless cherubs on our fountain..


fuckin dog..

sponger

i'd like to get one of those bamboo fountains like in kill bill.

sourdough

I used one with my dog when she was going through training. I don't think they should be illegal. They don't kill the bloody dog and I wouldn't call it torture or cruel.

jlew24asu

whats a choke chain?

JaneNY

jlew24asu wrote:

whats a choke chain?

Its a kind of chain collar, where one loop fits inside the other, then you attach the leash to one of the loops, so if the dog pulls harder on the leash, the collar gets tighter around their neck.

Rushlimbo

pjamdude69 wrote:

I'd like to get one for my dog.. If only because I'm pissed off at the fucker for knocking over the $250 fountain I bought my wife last summer. Broke both the heads of the cherubs, so we've got headless cherubs on our fountain..


fuckin dog..

Maybe you should be mad at yourself for buying something with cherubs in the first place.

Ahnimus

They are good for auto erotic asphyxiation.

Not sure about using 'em on dogs though.

El_Kabong

JaneNY wrote:

Its a kind of chain collar, where one loop fits inside the other, then you attach the leash to one of the loops, so if the dog pulls harder on the leash, the collar gets tighter around their neck.

they also have models w/ little prong like things that dig into the neck area, too! :eek:

sponger

sourdough wrote:

I used one with my dog when she was going through training. I don't think they should be illegal. They don't kill the bloody dog and I wouldn't call it torture or cruel.

Obey or suffocate? That's not torture?

farfromglorified

sponger wrote:

Obey or suffocate? That's not torture?

A choke chain, when properly used, has nothing to do with suffocation. If someone is suffocating their dog with a choke chain, that's abuse, and it has little to do with the choke chain.

chopitdown

sponger wrote:

Obey or suffocate? That's not torture?

we used one on my dog growing up while we were training her. She didn't complain, and she was able to be trained rather quickly. It's meant to be used as a quick jolt and it puts the pressure around the neck equally, unlike a conventional collar. If you use it incorrect it is torture and very cruel. If you use it correctly it isn't.

http://www.dog-training-academy.com/news/choker-chain.htm

Skitch Patterson

chopitdown wrote:

we used one on my dog growing up while we were training her. She didn't complain, and she was able to be trained rather quickly. It's meant to be used as a quick jolt and it puts the pressure around the neck equally, unlike a conventional collar. If you use it incorrect it is torture and very cruel. If you use it correctly it isn't.

http://www.dog-training-academy.com/news/choker-chain.htm

It also, in some respects is safer for the dog. A regular collar worn all the time should be loose enough that the dog can slip out of it if they absolutely have to (so if it gets caught on something they dont choke to death), and if you are walking a dog along a main road, and something spooks them, they could, in theory slip out of a regular collar putting themselves, you, and motorist in danger. The choke chain, because it tightens when pulled is virtually impossible to escape out of.

Choke Chains should not be left on a dog at all times, and only used when you are in control of it, so the dog isnt injured by it, but is not abusive if you dont use it that way.

farfromglorified

El_Kabong wrote:

they also have models w/ little prong like things that dig into the neck area, too! :eek:

And if someone put it on you, that would hurt like hell. But, thankfully, a dog has both thicker hair and thicker skin than you do, which is the whole purpose of the prongs to begin with.

If you're using a collar like that to "dig" into a dog's skin, you're misusing it.

Rushlimbo

farfromglorified wrote:

And if someone put it on you, that would hurt like hell. But, thankfully, a dog has both thicker hair and thicker skin than you do, which is the whole purpose of the prongs to begin with.

If you're using a collar like that to "dig" into a dog's skin, you're misusing it.

Yes, the prongs are on it as flair, not to increase pain to obey.

sourdough

sponger wrote:

Obey or suffocate? That's not torture?

I don't think I've ever heard of a dog suffocating to death from a choke chain. They are designed to be used as a sharp tug and they should immediately release.