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Port of Tacoma Protests

redsdiseaseredsdisease Posts: 147
edited March 2007 in A Moving Train
I know there is a lot of Seattleites on this board, this is going on in your own backyard. The Tacoma police have been treating peaceful protestors with extremely unnecesscary violence and bogus arrests over the last week in the Port of Tacome. Last night a non-violent, non-threatening protest against the escalation of the Iraq war was broken up by the police with use of tear gas, rubber bullets, pepper spray and physical assault. An uninvolved trucker reportedly had tear gas thrown into his truck by officers as well. What I've been hearing from the legal observers that were there, an astonishing number of the actions taken by the police were quiet illegal.

these are some youtube videos of last night's events:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfhUaUuG1sM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hIIuJK_Uh8

Two of the protestors on Hannity and Colmes, discussing arrests made earlier in the week:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mmGtIoAYT4

*(edit)*
A new video, refuting false claims by the police that officers were attacked by protesters with barricades:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-w7g_8ZCYU&mode=user&search=

And one showing police refusing people with medical supplies access to demonstrators:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXO7t0GGVPI&mode=related&search=

I'm still kind of in shock. I never seriously thought that those charged with the protection of the people, in the United States no less, would turn against them for simply expressing their first amendment rights of free speech.
Jimmy Carter has disco fever.
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  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    freedom of speech as long as we don't use it..
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Hannity, bitch-ignoramous. Good god, what an intellectual windup.*




    *intellectual windup used without permission.
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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    This has kinda changed my day here, more than the Daylight Savings Time. Is there a Federal Building in Tacoma? I'm guessing there is.
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  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Land of the free...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • VictoryGinVictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    i heart oly:

    http://omjp.org/Port2007.html
    if you wanna be a friend of mine
    cross the river to the eastside
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    For anybody interested, I found this message:

    Mar 11, 2007 12:09

    Be there on Monday night.

    Hello everybody,
    As you may or may not know, the boat is in and the Strykers are being loaded onto it. We had one intense night in Friday but after Friday things fell apart. There was no plan, no definite meeting spot and no communicaton between different affinity groups. But on Friday the one thing we did was pick one solid location.

    Being that we cannot get close to where the Strykers are, there is no point in doing anything symbolic that the longshoreman who are driving the military vehicles would see.

    We will meet at the corner of Lincoln and Milawakee, the intersection where everyone got gassed. Let's show these rutheless, bloodthirsty pigs that we are not afraid of going back to where the confrontation happened and that we will not stop. The boat will be gone soon and if we do nothing, especially after what they did to us, we will all regret it later. Bring all of your friends, tell them to bring all of their friends, and be there at the corner of Lincoln and Milawakee at 9pm. From there, after or before, we will figure out what to do on Tuesday, but let's just worry about being there tomorrow.

    Please spread this widely.

    Meetup: Corner of Lincoln and Milawakee @ 9pm.

    Take 136B exit off of I-5

    Follow Port of Tacoma Road towards Port.

    Take a left on Lincoln.

    Follow Lincoln until you hit Milawakee.

    At intersection, take a left.

    Parking will be to your right immediately after taking that left.

    Once there, wait for enough people.

    And then the magic will start...


    Love you all,

    Ray Kavick
    http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2007/03/11/18375541.php


    http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2007/03/11/18375541.php?show_comments=1#18375542
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  • redsdiseaseredsdisease Posts: 147
    Yes, if you can, please attend this event. Today (Sunday) 31 people were arresed in acts of civil disobedience, 8 for carrying backpacks (which, according to legal precedent, should be entirely legal) and 23 for peacefully climbing over police barricades to be arrested in protest of earlier events. Please go if you can. You don't have to risk arrest; and, now that there is much more media attention, the police will not dare use similar tactics as they did Friday night. Many of the people out there have been protesting for over a week, they're brave and strong, but they need your energy and support. If you are tired of this war, and want to show, this is your opportunity.

    Peace.
    Jimmy Carter has disco fever.
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    here's a google map (Lincoln Ave and Milwaukee Way):

    http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=en&saddr=Lincoln+Ave+Tacoma,+Pierce,+Washington+98421,+United+States&daddr=+Milwaukee+Way+Washington+98402,+United+States&layer=&sll=47.247076,-122.412586&sspn=0.056284,0.1157&ie=UTF8&z=15&om=1
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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    I'm headed to Tacoma in a few minutes. This could be interesting.





    PS to Laura: Denise and Paul say "hi".
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  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    gue_barium wrote:
    I'm headed to Tacoma in a few minutes. This could be interesting.





    PS to Laura: Denise and Paul say "hi".
    Please try to stay out of jail :)
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    i left about a half hour before this went down.

    http://www.kirotv.com/news/11240638/detail.html
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  • redsdiseaseredsdisease Posts: 147
    My friend was one of those arrested. It makes me sick that they can just get away with that kind of stuff.
    Jimmy Carter has disco fever.
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    redsdisease wrote:
    My friend was one of those arrested. It makes me sick that they can just get away with that kind of stuff.

    It's fucking nuts. When the protesters PEACE march moved from Lincoln/Milwaukee to the shipyard area where the barricade was up and the floodlights were on I had to laugh out loud seeing the riot cops there. WTF! The shields on their helmets went down, snipers with rubber bullets took position on the rooftops, and their forces spread out along the barricade.
    There was nothing that I saw of the 70 or so protesters that indicated anything other than the opportunity to exercise their right to peaceful protest.
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    gue_barium wrote:
    i left about a half hour before this went down.

    http://www.kirotv.com/news/11240638/detail.html

    That's fucking bull shit!! :mad:

    I love the excuse the cops gave "There's a train coming." Fuck off pigs!
  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w9HrDJEN58&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fbulletin%2Emyspace%2Ecom%2Findex%2Ecfm%3Ffuseaction%3Dbulletin%2Eread%26messageID%3D3000017833%26MyToken%3D14a83a3c%2D74f5%2D4db7%2D8b3


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItaeiK420Hw&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fbulletin%2Emyspace%2Ecom%2Findex%2Ecfm%3Ffuseaction%3Dbulletin%2Eread%26messageID%3D3000017833%26MyToken%3D14a83a3c%2D74f5%2D4db7%2D8b3

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-w7g_8ZCYU&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fbulletin%2Emyspace%2Ecom%2Findex%2Ecfm%3Ffuseaction%3Dbulletin%2Eread%26messageID%3D3000017833%26MyToken%3D14a83a3c%2D74f5%2D4db7%2D8b3
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w9HrDJEN58&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fbulletin%2Emyspace%2Ecom%2Findex%2Ecfm%3Ffuseaction%3Dbulletin%2Eread%26messageID%3D3000017833%26MyToken%3D14a83a3c%2D74f5%2D4db7%2D8b3

    Damn...look at all those hippies...lol
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Damn...look at all those hippies...lol

    I heart hippies.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Watching the first link vid was like watching people step up and get baptized into the legal system.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Watching the first link vid was like watching people step up and get baptized into the legal system.

    It was! lol.

    As symbolic as it looks, and it is...most charges are small fines or warnings and the protesters are out the next day to protest again.....

    The night time happenings are different.
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Watching the first link vid was like watching people step up and get baptized into the legal system.

    Ha. I actually thought the same thing. I wanted to call the Cult Awareness Network watching all of the slow kids step up with their hands behind their backs to get cuffed and arrested.

    I'm no fan of gov't in any form. I'm opposed to the war. But I sure wouldn't want to be associated with the anti-war movement with that sort of representation. I'm sure they're delusional enough to think that they've done something heroic and noble.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    gue_barium wrote:
    It was! lol.

    As symbolic as it looks, and it is...

    Still, spending a night in the can...for what?
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  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    jeffbr wrote:
    I'm sure they're delusional enough to think that they've done something heroic and noble.

    They have. Whatever mistakes were made along the way, they still stood up for what they believed in the face of possible danger.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    jeffbr wrote:
    Ha. I actually thought the same thing. I wanted to call the Cult Awareness Network watching all of the slow kids step up with their hands behind their backs to get cuffed and arrested.

    I'm no fan of gov't in any form. I'm opposed to the war. But I sure wouldn't want to be associated with the anti-war movement with that sort of representation. I'm sure they're delusional enough to think that they've done something heroic and noble.

    Well, what have you done lately?
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    gue_barium wrote:
    Well, what have you done lately?

    Stayed out of jail, made a living, provided for my family, bettered myself and my situation, voted 3rd party, volunteered in my community, gave to charity.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    jeffbr wrote:
    Stayed out of jail, made a living, provided for my family, bettered myself and my situation, voted 3rd party, volunteered in my community, gave to charity.


    That's great! I wouldn't belittle what you choose to do to make a diffrence in your life.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    jeffbr wrote:
    Stayed out of jail, made a living, provided for my family, bettered myself and my situation, voted 3rd party, volunteered in my community, gave to charity.

    I think you be lyin'.


    Putting "stayed out of jail" at the top of your list gave you away.

    That spells conformity and fear. It also isn't much of a feat, which kind of suits your argument.

    "As long as I agree enough"
    "I'll stay out of jail".
    "Damned Government!"
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    gue_barium wrote:
    I think you be lyin'.


    Putting "stayed out of jail" at the top of your list gave you away.

    That spells conformity and fear. It also isn't much of a feat, which kind of suits your argument.

    "As long as I agree enough"
    "I'll stay out of jail".
    "Damned Government!"


    I'll type slowly so you can hang with me. I put "stayed out of jail" first because it was relevant to the topic. I'm sure you with a little effort you'll be able to understand that. And understand this - I couldn't have done the other things I did without being smart enough not to walk up to a cop with my hands behind my back.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    jeffbr wrote:
    I'll type slowly so you can hang with me. I put "stayed out of jail" first because it was relevant to the topic. I'm sure you with a little effort you'll be able to understand that. And understand this - I couldn't have done the other things I did without being smart enough not to walk up to a cop with my hands behind my back.

    Listen, you come and post belittling the efforts of those who disagree with the government. They're actually going out and willingly getting arrested for their disagreement with the government.
    Here's what you don't understand: They don't want to get arrested. They choose the peaceable route to get the message across that those doing the imprisoning are those they disagree with, and they can get away with putting them in jail, but they are not strong enough to silence their protest of this government.
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    gue_barium wrote:
    Here's what you don't understand: They don't want to get arrested.

    Bullshit. They do want to get arrested. They walk up to the cops with their hands behind their backs. You don't want to get arrested, so you're doing what I'm doing right now, and typing on a computer. They want to get arrested thinking that they're "making a difference" so they find some guy with cuffs, walk up with their hands behind their backs, get cuffed, get put in the car, and flash the peace sign.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    jeffbr wrote:
    Bullshit. They do want to get arrested. They walk up to the cops with their hands behind their backs. You don't want to get arrested, so you're doing what I'm doing right now, and typing on a computer. They want to get arrested thinking that they're "making a difference" so they find some guy with cuffs, walk up with their hands behind their backs, get cuffed, get put in the car, and flash the peace sign.

    You have a small brain. I'm sorry.
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