Daylight savings time, global warming. Coincidence? I think not!

ForestBrain

Sorry, who's pearljam...I should have excluded people with that problem.
Maybe I should clarify:
I don't believe the sun can cause cancer for people who are not ill.

lucylespian

ForestBrain wrote:

Time for me to get some hate......
I don't believe in Global Warming. I think it's a crock. Along with the sun causing cancer.

Oh holy shit, I better send back all those medicare cheques I get for cutting em out then, thanks man, I mighta got busted otherwise.

Kann

ForestBrain wrote:

Time for me to get some hate......
I don't believe in Global Warming. I think it's a crock. Along with the sun causing cancer.

Not buying global warming I can see, but sun causing cancer? Why don't you believe that? To me it's like negating smoking can get you an artificial lung.

who's_pearljam?

ForestBrain wrote:

Sorry, who's pearljam...I should have excluded people with that problem.
Maybe I should clarify:
I don't believe the sun can cause cancer for people who are not ill.

Well, I'm not sure about your medical background, or what you mean by "that problem", but Melanoma IS skin cancer, and it had metastisized to a few of my organs. (Stage 4) That WAS my illness.
I ended up getting advanced treatment in Australia,,, maybe Lucylespian was my doc! :cool:


But this thread is more about daylight savings time causing global warming!

I'm turning my clocks back NOW to do my part!

ForestBrain

Kann wrote:

Not buying global warming I can see, but sun causing cancer? Why don't you believe that? To me it's like negating smoking can get you an artificial lung.

I don't believe it because the sun is just as necessary as water. Just as important as dirt.
Can dirt cause cancer? Can water cause cancer? No. It's a crock. Do you know what happens to a person if they never get sun?
Why don't freakin plants get ...uh...what would you call it? leaf cancer? Did you ever stop to think that maybe it's something else that is causing the skin cancer?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

pop a few more painkillers...and pray the sun doesn't find out about our wanton shenanigans...she could get mighty pissed about our tom foolery...

and the cow jumped over the moon...

Janis Joplin...feed your head...

who's_pearljam?

ForestBrain wrote:

I don't believe it because the sun is just as necessary as water. Just as important as dirt.
Can dirt cause cancer? Can water cause cancer? No. It's a crock. Do you know what happens to a person if they never get sun?
Why don't freakin plants get ...uh...what would you call it? leaf cancer? Did you ever stop to think that maybe it's something else that is causing the skin cancer?

The sun IS important! We need it, but too much isn't that great. If you lay out there and soak enough up, your skin is going to blister and burn and peel.
Too much water too fast can cause hyponatremia, where your cells burst.

Plants don't get leaf cancer, but if the type plant isn't used to the sun the leaves burn and fall off.


Haha,, well, not sure WHAT too much dirt will do. It's GOTTA cause some kind of digestive problems.


But I'm not going to sit here with all the other stuff I have to do right now and argue about something like this, when the thread started as a little bit of a lighthearted joke.



Ok, lame joke, sorry, but it seemed funny at the time!







Haha,,, ok, I'll just go sit out in the car!

Abookamongstthemany

who's_pearljam? wrote:

Haha,, well, not sure WHAT too much dirt will do. It's GOTTA cause some kind of digestive problems.

You'll get worms, that's what! Or at least that's what my grandmother used to say whenever I tried to eat something while I had dirt under my fingernails. It was a traumatizing thought!

who's_pearljam? wrote:

But I'm not going to sit here with all the other stuff I have to do right now and argue about something like this, when the thread started as a little bit of a lighthearted joke.



Ok, lame joke, sorry, but it seemed funny at the time!







Haha,,, ok, I'll just go sit out in the car!

Don't stay in your car too long, we could use the comic relief around here.

ForestBrain

Sorry. Mine was meant to be a little funny, too...ya know...leaf cancer.
Anyway, too much of anything is bad for a person. The sun can kill you if you lay out in it for days, of course. Anyway, sorry if I started anything.

Royals32

ForestBrain wrote:

I don't believe it because the sun is just as necessary as water. Just as important as dirt.
Can dirt cause cancer? Can water cause cancer? No. It's a crock. Do you know what happens to a person if they never get sun?
Why don't freakin plants get ...uh...what would you call it? leaf cancer? Did you ever stop to think that maybe it's something else that is causing the skin cancer?

I'm with you Forest.

How about the 1000+ nuclear weapons tests performed during the cold war that saturated our atmosphere with nuclear radiation? Just because that ended 20 years ago doesn't mean it didn't happen. That doesn't make it into any publications about global warming or anything like that. All those explosions HAD to have some kind of effect.

On the other hand...the sun is getting hotter (I have another post about that around here somewhere) so who really knows.

Remember, we used to KNOW the earth was flat. Now we KNOW that SUV's cause global warming and we KNOW that the sun causes skin cancer.

who's_pearljam?

ForestBrain wrote:

Sorry. Mine was meant to be a little funny, too...ya know...leaf cancer.
Anyway, too much of anything is bad for a person. The sun can kill you if you lay out in it for days, of course. Anyway, sorry if I started anything.

No problem, Forestbrain! I got it!


So today I'm contributing to global cooling by changing my time zone to 5 hours later so that will help the Earth cool even earlier today.
And as far as sun is concerned, I'm off to London today, and I looked at the weather:

Sun?

haha,,,, well, I guess I better go buy an umbrella!
If anyone's going to London, see you there!

Royals32girl

who's_pearljam? wrote:

Haha,,,, I know the answer to that question!


I really do!


Uhhhhh,,,,, let me check my drivers's license


It's Bob!!



Ok, and today I came up with the multi billion dollar invention, patent pending,,,, the shower curtain that comes on a roll. so when it's funky you pull it and rip it off to expose new curtain material just like the roll of paper on the doctor's table!

OMG!!!!!!!! You're awesome! Can I be the first to buy one? Sorry, I don't mean to take away from the topic at hand.

onelongsong

who's_pearljam? wrote:

I have recently concluded that daylight savings time is directly contributing to global warming.
Has anyone noticed our unusually warm spring this year? It started in my area RIGHT after we set the clocks forward. Daylight savings time started almost a month earlier than it did in prior years.
Setting the clocks forward has caused an extra hour of daylight which, of course, has a direct effect on the heating of the Earth.
I think that we can still help prevent further damage can still be prevented by setting the clocks BACK a month early in order to create an extra hour of darkness.

Thank you all for reading and I hope you write to your congressman!


This message brought to you by the makers of the painkillers I’m taking for my smucked up ankle.

daylight savings time also gave you an extra hour of darkness in the morning. the soltice is giving you longer hours of light; but don't fret. starting thursday; the hours of light per day will start decreasing. there's still 24 hours to a day. daylight savings time just trades an hour of darkness for an hour of light in the evenings. in the summer people tend to be outside enjoying the summer. we set the clocks back in fall so the sun rises earlier and begins to warm things sooner.
most people don't know what global warming really is. it was inproperly named and the general public doesn't have a clue.

onelongsong

ForestBrain wrote:

I don't believe it because the sun is just as necessary as water. Just as important as dirt.
Can dirt cause cancer? Can water cause cancer? No. It's a crock. Do you know what happens to a person if they never get sun?
Why don't freakin plants get ...uh...what would you call it? leaf cancer? Did you ever stop to think that maybe it's something else that is causing the skin cancer?

i take it you're young. the sun wasn't a big problem until we blew a hole in the ozone layer which protected us from the radiation. man did that. it also seems you know nothing about global warming.

Royals32

onelongsong wrote:

i take it you're young. the sun wasn't a big problem until we blew a hole in the ozone layer which protected us from the radiation. man did that. it also seems you know nothing about global warming.

Man did that? When exactly did we blow a hole in the ozone layer? I totally disagree. How long was the hole in the ozone layer before we created a tool to see and measure it? That hole could have been there for 300 million years but as soon as we were able to see it, it became a huge issue. Maybe that hole is a naturally occuring regulator intended to relieve the planet of excess heat or pollution (volcanoes have been erupting since the beginning of time, and they cause a little more pollution than we do).

We've been on earth for a tiny fraction in the timeline of the history of this planet. To suggest that humanity's activity over the last 150 years is the cause of climate change is absurd.

I expect to be crucified for having this opinion but the generally accepted party line really doesn't make any sense to me.

onelongsong

Royals32 wrote:

Man did that? When exactly did we blow a hole in the ozone layer? I totally disagree. How long was the hole in the ozone layer before we created a tool to see and measure it? That hole could have been there for 300 million years but as soon as we were able to see it, it became a huge issue. Maybe that hole is a naturally occuring regulator intended to relieve the planet of excess heat or pollution (volcanoes have been erupting since the beginning of time, and they cause a little more pollution than we do).

We've been on earth for a tiny fraction in the timeline of the history of this planet. To suggest that humanity's activity over the last 150 years is the cause of climate change is absurd.

I expect to be crucified for having this opinion but the generally accepted party line really doesn't make any sense to me.

why would you be crucified for not knowing any better? the hole in the ozone was caused by florocarbons released into the atmosphere. man is the sole reason for the hole because nothing occuring naturally could have made the hole. we were also able to measure the speed at which the hole was growing and based on that; a timeline was established which led to finding the cause.

you're right that man has only been here a short time compared to the life of the earth; but naturally occuring disasters have never been unreversable as the pollution man created has. when you think about how man has destroyed such a beautiful planet in such a short time; how can you not believe it was us?

Royals32

onelongsong wrote:

why would you be crucified for not knowing any better? the hole in the ozone was caused by florocarbons released into the atmosphere. man is the sole reason for the hole because nothing occuring naturally could have made the hole. we were also able to measure the speed at which the hole was growing and based on that; a timeline was established which led to finding the cause.

you're right that man has only been here a short time compared to the life of the earth; but naturally occuring disasters have never been unreversable as the pollution man created has. when you think about how man has destroyed such a beautiful planet in such a short time; how can you not believe it was us?

I meant I'd be crucufied for having an unpopular opinion (like i have in the past), not specifically by you. Sorry if that's the way you took that...

Anyway, consider this...we got this "ozone layer hole measurer" turned on, we found this huge hole right over the north pole. We looked at it over a period of (I have no idea what the number is...) 10 - 25 years? We found that during this period that the hole was growing, so we applied some formulas and projected the findings over the next "X" number of years and concluded that based on the rate of expansion, if you went backwards in time, there must have been no hole "X" number of years ago. Like I said earlier, what if the hole has been there since the beginning of time? What if it goes through a 2000 year cycle of expansion and contraction, and we just happened to turn our cameras on to this hole during part of the expansion phase of the cycle?

All of the information that is reported to us is divided into two distinct categories, the first being raw data - for example - "there is a hole in the ozone layer" or "global temperatures are rising" or "global CO2 levels are higher than they have ever been." This data is fact and cannot be disputed. I'm not even disputing those facts, but...the second category is the assumptions and general consensus among A PORTION (albeit a large portion) of the scientific community. They take the real data, plug it into a super computer and project a scenario. The problem is that the data they are basing their projections on is so limited there's no way they can paint an accurate picture of what we can expect. As I posted earlier, Mars is getting warmer, and the only explanation we've got so far is that the sun is the cause (it's getting hotter). We know so little and assume so much. In the 70's we were convinced that we were on the verge of an ice age. I'm not sure if you knew that. Granted, we have better tools today than we had 30 years ago, but who can say that 30 years from now the tools we will have won't be better still, and maybe we'll find a hole in the ocean (that may have been there forever) and all of a sudden, that's the new fear being fed to us?

Politicians based their campaigns on how they were going to do their part to save the planet from the ice age. Now, 30 years later we're looking at things from the opposite side. I'm not saying you're wrong, and I wouldn't argue to death to prove I'm right, I just think (based on admittedly limited research) that we are not being told the whole story.

onelongsong

Royals32 wrote:

I meant I'd be crucufied for having an unpopular opinion (like i have in the past), not specifically by you. Sorry if that's the way you took that...

Anyway, consider this...we got this "ozone layer hole measurer" turned on, we found this huge hole right over the north pole. We looked at it over a period of (I have no idea what the number is...) 10 - 25 years? We found that during this period that the hole was growing, so we applied some formulas and projected the findings over the next "X" number of years and concluded that based on the rate of expansion, if you went backwards in time, there must have been no hole "X" number of years ago. Like I said earlier, what if the hole has been there since the beginning of time? What if it goes through a 2000 year cycle of expansion and contraction, and we just happened to turn our cameras on to this hole during part of the expansion phase of the cycle?

All of the information that is reported to us is divided into two distinct categories, the first being raw data - for example - "there is a hole in the ozone layer" or "global temperatures are rising" or "global CO2 levels are higher than they have ever been." This data is fact and cannot be disputed. I'm not even disputing those facts, but...the second category is the assumptions and general consensus among A PORTION (albeit a large portion) of the scientific community. They take the real data, plug it into a super computer and project a scenario. The problem is that the data they are basing their projections on is so limited there's no way they can paint an accurate picture of what we can expect. As I posted earlier, Mars is getting warmer, and the only explanation we've got so far is that the sun is the cause (it's getting hotter). We know so little and assume so much. In the 70's we were convinced that we were on the verge of an ice age. I'm not sure if you knew that. Granted, we have better tools today than we had 30 years ago, but who can say that 30 years from now the tools we will have won't be better still, and maybe we'll find a hole in the ocean (that may have been there forever) and all of a sudden, that's the new fear being fed to us?

Politicians based their campaigns on how they were going to do their part to save the planet from the ice age. Now, 30 years later we're looking at things from the opposite side. I'm not saying you're wrong, and I wouldn't argue to death to prove I'm right, I just think (based on admittedly limited research) that we are not being told the whole story.

i didn't take it that way at all. i just meant that everyone is entitled to their own opinion and you shouldn't be crucified for expressing it.

from what i remember; when the hole was discovered; it was quite small. it grew increasingly bigger each year. then spiro agnew came up with this plan to take the performance out of automobiles.
anyway; we ARE headed into an ice age. it's because of the earths eliptical orbit around the sun. we are moving farther from the sun and thus we are cooling. sounds like i'm full of sh**; right? this is where most people get confused. the earth is cooling and we're moving further from the sun so our atmosphere is cooling too. if temperatures stayed the same we'd have cause for concern. all indications point towards cooler temps yet we're staying the same. but we're getting warmer. a couple degrees don't seem like much but when we complete the "back side" of our orbit and start moving closer to the sun and thus our warming cycle; those couple degrees turn to several degrees.
i've completed my model of what's to come but i too won't devulge it because i know i'll be crucified. i think our cooling period is masking the true extent of the problem and that's why people boo-hoo global warming. i'll leave it at that.

nick1977

Al Gore didn't mention that in his movie......but that makes sense....in a weird sort of way. lol

Royals32

onelongsong wrote:

i've completed my model of what's to come but i too won't devulge it because i know i'll be crucified. i think our cooling period is masking the true extent of the problem and that's why people boo-hoo global warming. i'll leave it at that.

OK, so then I guess that's the end of that...