my answer is:
Main Entry: eth·ic
Pronunciation: 'e-thik
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English ethik, from Middle French ethique, from Latin ethice, from Greek EthikE, from Ethikos
1 plural but singular or plural in construction : the discipline dealing with what is good and bad and with moral duty and obligation
2 a : a set of moral principles : a theory or system of moral values <the present-day materialistic ethic> <an old-fashioned work ethic> -- often used in plural but sing. or plural in constr. <an elaborate ethics> <Christian ethics> b plural but singular or plural in construction : the principles of conduct governing an individual or a group <professional ethics> c : a guiding philosophy d : a consciousness of moral importance <forge a conservation ethic>
3 plural : a set of moral issues or aspects (as rightness) <debated the ethics of human cloning>
and paying someone $20hr is different than paying someone so little they can't afford health insurance other than medicare/aid. but why does that person only deserve $15/hr if their ceo is making hundreds of times that for doing less? and don't give me that crap about building a company and making it thrive...there's more than enough examples of companies losing profit while the ceos get huge bonuses and pay
lol you act like the peopl at walmart are working on building the world trade center.
What the fuck do you think you should get for beign a casheer?
Who do you think owns the "corporations"?......we own them...our pension plans, our stock portfolios.....the profits make the shares more attractive, and that makes the values of our pensions go up.
tell that to the employees of enron!!!
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
lol you act like the peopl at walmart are working on building the world trade center.
What the fuck do you think you should get for beign a casheer?
40K a year?
WHats a stock boy make 70k?
enough to live on and afford health insurance while their employer makes several billions in profit
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
bad things happen. SHould we blame all muslims for Osama?
well, you do!
and enron is far from the only case. in fact there were lots of ppl involved in the enron thing...citibank, arthur anderson...
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
and paying someone $20hr is different than paying someone so little they can't afford health insurance other than medicare/aid. but why does that person only deserve $15/hr if their ceo is making hundreds of times that for doing less? and don't give me that crap about building a company and making it thrive...there's more than enough examples of companies losing profit while the ceos get huge bonuses and pay
Ethics are great. Even given your definition above, we'd disagree about ethical behavior.
And you've just made my day by demonstrating how the market works. Companies can and do lose profit while CEOs get outrageous bonuses and pay, and sometimes those companies go away because of it. But other times, the best and brightest are retained and the company continues to prosper.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
The employees of Enron were caught up in the same greed that Ken Lay was, weren't they?
not really, there's a good book and doc on enron and how for a long time they wouldn't let ppl pull their money out. there were lots of ppl who got caught up from enron buying the company they worked for...their money was put into enron b/c that was enron's rules...then when they tried to get their money out they wouldn't let them
and it is still possible to make profits and be ethical and pay your employees enough to live off of
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
and it is still possible to make profits and be ethical and pay your employees enough to live off of
So when are you franchising this business?
I've never understood how people can think that a company you work for owes you health insurance. People sure like to partake in profit when someone else is risk risking their own money. But I've yet to hear these same people applaud layoffs when the company loses money, or to pay the owners out their own pockets to make up for the loss.
If you want the reward take the risk. Until then please work for your state to provide universal health care, and stop with this living wage crap.
“One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
I've never understood how people can think that a company you work for owes you health insurance. People sure like to partake in profit when someone else is risk risking their own money. But I've yet to hear these same people applaud layoffs when the company loses money, or to pay the owners out their own pockets to make up for the loss.
If you want the reward take the risk. Until then please work for your state to provide universal health care, and stop with this living wage crap.
One thing is sure. Whether it be in the factories or workshops, in the mines or forests, in offices, or in homes, anything which impairs the efficiency of workers is almost certain to cost the lives and limbs of an increasing number of our soldiers, sailors and airmen.
-William L. M. King
They are invested in their employees. Their health and well being should be of great importance if you're interested in efficiency.
And for that matter, the employees are the ones producing the profit...they should own the factories. Let the working man get investors and actually get some competition out there instead of having the big guys continue to run any small businesses out of town. This trend is very damning to our society and is destroying the middle class, leaving people with no options and no chance at living this dream so many claim is alive and thriving.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
And for that matter, the employees are the ones producing the profit...they should own the factories. Let the working man get investors and actually get some competition out there instead of having the big guys continue to run any small businesses out of town. This trend is very damning to our society and is destroying the middle class, leaving people with no options and no chance at living this dream so many claim is alive and thriving.
But employees can own the factory. It's called buying shares. But far too many people are way too concerned with what material things they can buy with their wages than making an investment in where they work, or hope to work in the future. Nothing is stopping these workers from banding together and building their own factory except their own short sightedness.
Where you give people freedom some will struggle. Where you take away freedom all will struggle.
“One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
But employees can own the factory. It's called buying shares. But far too many people are way too concerned with what material things they can buy with their wages than making an investment in where they work, or hope to work in the future. Nothing is stopping these workers from banding together and building their own factory except their own short sightedness.
Where you give people freedom some will struggle. Where you take away freedom all will struggle.
I don't believe it is only due to short sightedness or laziness. The dream can't happen for everybody...some are going to be at the lower end of the stick always and those people deserve better. We're the richest nation in the world and it doesn't show by how we treat our less fortunate. We treat them like some lower life form who are complete failures and we strip them of all their integrity. The reality of mountains of debt, millions who can't afford health insurance for their families and widening lower class can't continue to be ignored. It just ain't working. There will be generations to follow behind us and be left with this mess.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
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Most union grocery stores in Los Angeles......and the union workers get great pension benefits, triple-time on some holidays, and health coverage.
lol you act like the peopl at walmart are working on building the world trade center.
What the fuck do you think you should get for beign a casheer?
40K a year?
WHats a stock boy make 70k?
tell that to the employees of enron!!!
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
How is the example exagerrated?
bad things happen. SHould we blame all muslims for Osama?
enough to live on and afford health insurance while their employer makes several billions in profit
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
touche'
well, you do!
and enron is far from the only case. in fact there were lots of ppl involved in the enron thing...citibank, arthur anderson...
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
You named 2 people.
corporations are a great thing...
If you dont like working at walmart get another job!!
Ethics are great. Even given your definition above, we'd disagree about ethical behavior.
And you've just made my day by demonstrating how the market works. Companies can and do lose profit while CEOs get outrageous bonuses and pay, and sometimes those companies go away because of it. But other times, the best and brightest are retained and the company continues to prosper.
The employees of Enron were caught up in the same greed that Ken Lay was, weren't they?
not really, there's a good book and doc on enron and how for a long time they wouldn't let ppl pull their money out. there were lots of ppl who got caught up from enron buying the company they worked for...their money was put into enron b/c that was enron's rules...then when they tried to get their money out they wouldn't let them
and it is still possible to make profits and be ethical and pay your employees enough to live off of
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
I've never understood how people can think that a company you work for owes you health insurance. People sure like to partake in profit when someone else is risk risking their own money. But I've yet to hear these same people applaud layoffs when the company loses money, or to pay the owners out their own pockets to make up for the loss.
If you want the reward take the risk. Until then please work for your state to provide universal health care, and stop with this living wage crap.
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
One thing is sure. Whether it be in the factories or workshops, in the mines or forests, in offices, or in homes, anything which impairs the efficiency of workers is almost certain to cost the lives and limbs of an increasing number of our soldiers, sailors and airmen.
-William L. M. King
They are invested in their employees. Their health and well being should be of great importance if you're interested in efficiency.
And for that matter, the employees are the ones producing the profit...they should own the factories. Let the working man get investors and actually get some competition out there instead of having the big guys continue to run any small businesses out of town. This trend is very damning to our society and is destroying the middle class, leaving people with no options and no chance at living this dream so many claim is alive and thriving.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Where you give people freedom some will struggle. Where you take away freedom all will struggle.
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
I don't believe it is only due to short sightedness or laziness. The dream can't happen for everybody...some are going to be at the lower end of the stick always and those people deserve better. We're the richest nation in the world and it doesn't show by how we treat our less fortunate. We treat them like some lower life form who are complete failures and we strip them of all their integrity. The reality of mountains of debt, millions who can't afford health insurance for their families and widening lower class can't continue to be ignored. It just ain't working. There will be generations to follow behind us and be left with this mess.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde