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HughFreakingDillon

I fucking LOVED Succession. The correlation to Fox, at least to me, was evident very early on. 

And it was one of my favourite shows of all time. My wife thought it dragged a bit though. 

mrussel1

HughFreakingDillon said:

I fucking LOVED Succession. The correlation to Fox, at least to me, was evident very early on. 

And it was one of my favourite shows of all time. My wife thought it dragged a bit though. 

I appreciate sophisticated writing and this passed that test.  Yes, business doesn't move quite at the speed as the show, but it wasn't ridiculous like "Suits".  I know a lot of people like that show, but to me it's borderline silly how cases pop, go to court and get settled on the show in like, two days.  
Succession was smart writing and at the end of the day, it's a tragedy.  And it's a good tragedy at that.  Think about how it all ended.  

Gern Blansten

Succession and The Wire are still both on my radar. 

mace1229

mrussel1 said:

mace1229 said:

The Juggler said:

I don't know what Fox has to do with Succession, but we've been watching that show lately. Just finished season 2 and I'm starting to get tired of it. Is it worth watching the rest? Seems to be getting stale right now. 

So even into season 2 you see no correlation between ATN and Fox?  It should be apparent already.  

Actually, I thought about that a lot when we watch. I think of it as if Disney were to buy out Fox (not that they ever would).
I just meant I don't know what anything new or current with Fox prompted the picture, seemed a bit random. I thought there may have been some new story I was unfamiliar with he was referring to.
But yes, there is a definite likeness. 

The Juggler

mace1229 said:

mrussel1 said:

mace1229 said:

The Juggler said:

I don't know what Fox has to do with Succession, but we've been watching that show lately. Just finished season 2 and I'm starting to get tired of it. Is it worth watching the rest? Seems to be getting stale right now. 

So even into season 2 you see no correlation between ATN and Fox?  It should be apparent already.  

Actually, I thought about that a lot when we watch. I think of it as if Disney were to buy out Fox (not that they ever would).
I just meant I don't know what anything new or current with Fox prompted the picture, seemed a bit random. I thought there may have been some new story I was unfamiliar with he was referring to.
But yes, there is a definite likeness. 

It's the patriarch of an enormous media conglomerate wanting to hold onto his empire for as long as is humanly possible, preventing his offspring from taking over. It's eerily similar to Fox, to be quite honest...especially the further along you go.

I think it's one of the better shows that's been made. I always tell people that once you get past the fact that literally every character is a horrible human being and that the storylines require a lot of your attention, you'll really appreciate it. 

HAVING SAID THAT---if you still don't like it even after how season 2 ends, maybe it's not for you. I fucking loved that ending and couldn't wait to see how 3 played out. lol

mickeyrat

https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1704996996329972185?t=m5DyvpNhC9y7Ot5v-RUF7w&s=19

mickeyrat

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1706337323565142473?t=87InHLQpmL6HVZ3o6gYa_w&s=19

mickeyrat

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1707243590139732176?t=eAe1CE0fbU5lsPY4vM6e9A&s=19

Lerxst1992

mickeyrat said:

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1707243590139732176?t=eAe1CE0fbU5lsPY4vM6e9A&s=19

Now if Gavin Harrison were on fox,  I'd watch. 

mickeyrat

https://twitter.com/BidenHQ/status/1709550626328264872?t=jT7nq_-2qSZKx8MLibUBbA&s=19

mickeyrat

https://twitter.com/JoJoFromJerz/status/1710437472084095475?t=yqs3GDZuHf1n7YcTKsJe_w&s=19

mickeyrat

I thought Tarted was bad enough,  but this? This is a whole nother level...

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1725189230287012297?t=rYWuUGZccFcA6tR46cyYow&s=19

mickeyrat

what? Fox pushes back?

https://twitter.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1725234513440047421?t=OVNpp18rgYitgfDM_6a7vg&s=19

mickeyrat

https://twitter.com/MeidasTouch/status/1728457659039518949?t=MEix9d0UrzRaBRKMmy7ZYQ&s=19

mickeyrat

https://twitter.com/realTuckFrumper/status/1728820946541429126?t=cqKDHbfW7e9nyKoeYb865w&s=19

Merkin Baller

“Eight months ago, the man on the right had the top-rated primetime cable news show on television and a $20 million-a-year contract.

Today, he's interviewing a guy named Catturd while in flip-flops.”

Halifax2TheMax

I wouldn't trust a word that comes out of Fucker's mouth. Move and broadcast from Moscow, you puke.

Opinion 

 Carlson, like the populist right, dislikes what makes America great

Tucker Carlson’s interview with Russian President Vladimir Putin got a lot of attention. But I was more struck by Carlson’s reaction to his visit to Moscow — his first ever. He was not just impressed; it left him radicalized and enraged at his own government.

Where to begin? Perhaps with the obvious reminder that living in Moscow if you criticize the government can mean prison or death, sometimes both.

In Dubai, a few days after the interview, Carlson put forth a bizarre hodgepodge of assertions. He thought the architecture, food and service in Moscow was better than in any American city. Really? Moscow, outside of a small historic center, is filled with drab Soviet-era concrete buildings. And while food in Moscow can be quite good, is it better than in New York or San Francisco? You need to get out more, Tucker!

Many of his jibes were simply untrue. He praised Moscow, saying it is one of several “wonderful places to live” because, unlike the United States, Russia apparently doesn’t suffer from “rampant inflation.” But using the Russian government’s own data from last month, the country’s inflation rate was 7.4 percent, almost 2½ times that of the United States. That’s why interest rates in Russia are 16 percent, about three times higher than U.S. rates.

In a short video segment recorded in Moscow, Carlson shops at a local grocery store and marvels that groceries to feed a Russian family for a week cost perhaps a quarter as much as similar groceries would cost in the United States. This enraged him. But Russia’s per capita GDP is about $15,000, compared with America’s, which is about $76,000. Stuff costs more in rich countries than in poorer ones. Carlson should go shopping in Mexico, where his groceries would also be much cheaper. Perhaps he will gain newfound respect for the Mexican government.

Carlson also marvels at the grandeur of a subway station, contrasting Moscow’s subway favorably with New York’s. While it’s true that the Russian capital’s subways are excellent, the stations are so grand there because they were built by Joseph Stalin at huge public expense to showcase the superiority of Soviet Communism. In contrast, New York’s subways are a product of capitalism, having been built and operated through public-private partnerships of various kinds, which are more budget-conscious. It has always been true that centralized autocracies can marshal the entire resources of society to build great vanity projects. Tucker should go next to see the pyramids of Egypt and the Taj Mahal. They’re amazing.

Carlson’s entire riff about Russia is really about the United States. He said he “grew up in a country that had cities like Moscow and Abu Dhabi and Dubai and Singapore and Tokyo.” New York is one of his favorite cities, he says, but as he sees it, U.S. cities are now broken. Carlson was born in 1969, so the New York of the 1970s he so fondly remembers was in fact a city of rampant crime, riots and graffiti — a city so badly mismanaged that it nearly declared bankruptcy in 1975. A 1977 blackout became legendary for the massive looting and crime it triggered. More than 800,000 people fled the city during that decade and real estate values plummeted.

It wasn’t just New York. San Francisco during that era was seen as a hotbed of hippies, drugs, pornography and radical experimentation. The movie “Dirty Harry,” portraying out-of-control urban crime, was set in San Francisco in the 1970s. Crime rates in New York today, like across many major U.S. cities, are way down from their levels in the 1980s and 1990s.

Carlson speaks enviously of cities such as Tokyo, Singapore, Abu Dhabi and Dubai. I’ve been to all these cities many times — some of them in the past few months — and they are indeed wonderful in their own distinctive ways. But what’s striking about all of them is that they are somewhat tame and subdued, the product of authoritarian governments or conformist culture — or both.

American cities are different. They are the product of decentralization and diversity and democracy. Jane Jacobs, a great writer on urban life, always described the best cities as bottom-up systems, seemingly anarchic but organic and in the long run far superior to the abstract drawings of central planners. American cities are expressions of democracy, places where people have to negotiate differences and find ways to live together. That makes them messier and dirtier and sometimes chaotic. But perhaps that is what has made these cities so vibrant and innovative, and why they have been at the forefront in making the United States the country that leads the world in economics, technology, culture and power.

Once upon a time, American conservatives praised the United States' organic communities, rooted in freedom and choice, built bottom-up not top-down. But the new populist right despises these cities, and that disgust is in part a rejection of modern, pluralistic democracy itself. Increasingly, they are dazzled by the clean and orderly ways of dictatorships, populist authoritarians and absolute monarchies.

After all, say what you will about Putin, he makes the subways run on time.

Opinion | Why does Tucker Carlson like Moscow so much? - The Washington Post

mickeyrat

ummmm stop talking....

https://twitter.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1760695798914765015?s=19

gimmesometruth27

mickeyrat said:

ummmm stop talking....

https://twitter.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1760695798914765015?s=19

wow..... just...wow.

HughFreakingDillon

right up there with hillary's hot sauce in the purse moment.