And, here is yet a third description of the "room" where the shooting took place, reported by USA TODAY: "Authorities recovered a handgun they believe was used in the shooting, according to Barnes. He said Monday night that the shooting occurred in a classroom during study hall with students of different grades." "A CLASSROOM DURING STUDY HALL WITH STUDENTS OF DIFFERENT GRADES". Damn that Andy Ngo!
And, here is yet a third description of the "room" where the shooting took place, reported by USA TODAY: "Authorities recovered a handgun they believe was used in the shooting, according to Barnes. He said Monday night that the shooting occurred in a classroom during study hall with students of different grades." "A CLASSROOM DURING STUDY HALL WITH STUDENTS OF DIFFERENT GRADES". Damn that Andy Ngo!
Maybe Andy No can report on POOTWH’s statement regarding the shooting?
Andy No is full of shit. Good lord, social media is where “the breaking news is?” “Legacy media” is too old and slow? Better to follow douches on X?
Police chief reported that the shooting took place in a “classroom” that was being utilized as a “study hall” with students from multiple grades present.
I guess if you’re not used to reading books or spending time in a library, I can see how you could mistake a classroom for a library or if the only book present is the bible how that might be considered a “library.” I also wonder how much more of Andy No’s post is full of shit?
He is just another grifter that preys on the most griftable among us. And yes he is usually full of shit and piece of shit.
Wow! Guys, please, you really should seek help. You are this upset because Andy Ngo's source described the room where the shooting occurred as a "library" and the police chief called it a "classroom"? You realize that both rooms would have books, 4 walls and a ceiling and, presumably a door, too? Did you not notice that Andy Ngo was the only reporter to correctly state that the female shooter was 15 years old - not 17 years old as CNN and others were reporting for hours after the shooting? Your statement that Andy Ngo (maybe you're a racist for twice calling him Andy "No"?) "is just another grifter that preys on the most griftable among us. And yes he is usually full of shit and piece of shit." Unhinged!
Upset? By Andy No’s lack of knowledge? Nah, that’s not upsetting. It’s typical. Like school shootings.
Wow! You really ARE a racist! Three examples now of you referring to Vietnamese-American reporter, Andy Ngo, as Andy No. And after I previously pointed out to you that you twice misspelled his name. This obviously is an intentional disrespectful insult. What have you got against Vietnamese- Americans, Halifax2TheMax? I think you should apologize and spell his name correctly here, for all to see.
Andy No is full of shit. Good lord, social media is where “the breaking news is?” “Legacy media” is too old and slow? Better to follow douches on X?
Police chief reported that the shooting took place in a “classroom” that was being utilized as a “study hall” with students from multiple grades present.
I guess if you’re not used to reading books or spending time in a library, I can see how you could mistake a classroom for a library or if the only book present is the bible how that might be considered a “library.” I also wonder how much more of Andy No’s post is full of shit?
He is just another grifter that preys on the most griftable among us. And yes he is usually full of shit and piece of shit.
Wow! Guys, please, you really should seek help. You are this upset because Andy Ngo's source described the room where the shooting occurred as a "library" and the police chief called it a "classroom"? You realize that both rooms would have books, 4 walls and a ceiling and, presumably a door, too? Did you not notice that Andy Ngo was the only reporter to correctly state that the female shooter was 15 years old - not 17 years old as CNN and others were reporting for hours after the shooting? Your statement that Andy Ngo (maybe you're a racist for twice calling him Andy "No"?) "is just another grifter that preys on the most griftable among us. And yes he is usually full of shit and piece of shit." Unhinged!
Upset? By Andy No’s lack of knowledge? Nah, that’s not upsetting. It’s typical. Like school shootings.
Wow! You really ARE a racist! Three examples now of you referring to Vietnamese-American reporter, Andy Ngo, as Andy No. And after I previously pointed out to you that you twice misspelled his name. This obviously is an intentional disrespectful insult. What have you got against Vietnamese- Americans, Halifax2TheMax? I think you should apologize and spell his name correctly here, for all to see.
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Try again. Halifax responded to an article I posted with Andy Ngo's photo and name in the upper left corner.
Wow! That’s it! Winner, winner, chicken dinner!
Now explain to the esteemed readers of the AMT what racial connotations I imply when I call various turds by the following:
POOTWH Elongitaint Matt Getts Off Bull Durham Deathsantis Maggie Three Names Lorena Bobbitt Sandra Hucksterbee Abbott & Costello JD Byryder Devin Nunca Shrub Turd Blossom Andy No, as in no, Andy isn’t factual and should not be considered a reliable source when they can’t differentiate between a library and a classroom/study hall.
Yep, that sure is some hilarious material you've written there: "Andy No is a piece of shit". And let's not forget the classic zinger (though misspelled): "And yes he is usually full of shit and (sic) piece of shit". What IS really funny is how incensed you are that Andy Ngo's source reported to him (via telephone or text or email, he doesn't say which) that the shooting occurred in the schools "library". The Police Chief reported that the shooting occurred in a "classroom being used as a study hall, by students of varying ages". Presumably, the students had books. Gee, I think I can understand why Andy's source could've identified the room as a "library". Either way, it's certainly no reason to call Andy Ngo "a piece of shit" and to make fun of his name. Why are you so angry and hateful all the time? Please, get some help.
Yep, that sure is some hilarious material you've written there: "Andy No is a piece of shit". And let's not forget the classic zinger (though misspelled): "And yes he is usually full of shit and (sic) piece of shit". What IS really funny is how incensed you are that Andy Ngo's source reported to him (via telephone or text or email, he doesn't say which) that the shooting occurred in the schools "library". The Police Chief reported that the shooting occurred in a "classroom being used as a study hall, by students of varying ages". Presumably, the students had books. Gee, I think I can understand why Andy's source could've identified the room as a "library". Either way, it's certainly no reason to call Andy Ngo "a piece of shit" and to make fun of his name. Why are you so angry and hateful all the time? Please, get some help.
“Fight, fight, fight.”
”Incensed?” Yup, that’s me. Because of Andy No’s inaccurate reporting, the self-proclaimed “nobody but me” reporting on Twitter, the new legacy and go to source of reporting platform for all your “facts.”
Oh I see he's doing it on purpose. Its not racist, its just dumb.
Guys just use peoples real names and stop with Facebook-esque boomer shit posting. it’s tacky as fuck.
Sorry, I am me and you are you. I don’t respect any of these repubs who are racist, misogynistic, supporters of the rapist in chief POOTWH. To use their proper names shows a level of respect, a level I don’t have for any of them or those that voted for or support them. They lost me years ago when they lied this country into an illegal war and were never held accountable. They have only gotten worse and Elongitaint proves it. Fuck them.
It’s just comes across as childish and unserious, that’s all.
Have you noticed the memes that are posted? How about the “sources” of some of the crowing, “information” or lack of “serious” fact based rebuttals to legitimate questions or fact based alternative points of view?
This place hasn’t been serious for well over a decade now. Where you been?
I’m just saying, you want the moral and intellectual high ground? SHOW that you have it. Let those dopes call people names, use bad facts with janky sources, and demonstrate their brain rot. You have the moral and intellectual POV, let them look unserious by saying FJB, or whatever sexist pejorative they have for AOC, or any woman in governance or whatever dumb thing is the issue of the day dictated by conservative media. Yeah they don’t deserve your respect, but give it to them anyway because you’re the better person.
I’ve pretty much given up on trying to have a serious conversation with those of opposing viewpoints because we’re not sharing the same reality. Or “facts.” That’s the cumulative effect of Faux, social media and faceturd, which I’ve never been on, ever. Ok, boomer?
Yep, that sure is some hilarious material you've written there: "Andy No is a piece of shit". And let's not forget the classic zinger (though misspelled): "And yes he is usually full of shit and (sic) piece of shit". What IS really funny is how incensed you are that Andy Ngo's source reported to him (via telephone or text or email, he doesn't say which) that the shooting occurred in the schools "library". The Police Chief reported that the shooting occurred in a "classroom being used as a study hall, by students of varying ages". Presumably, the students had books. Gee, I think I can understand why Andy's source could've identified the room as a "library". Either way, it's certainly no reason to call Andy Ngo "a piece of shit" and to make fun of his name. Why are you so angry and hateful all the time? Please, get some help.
It had books so it could have been a library reminds me of the classic “if my grandmother had wheels she would have been a bike”. Tripping over yourself to not look like a fool makes you look like one.
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I’m just saying, you want the moral and intellectual high ground? SHOW that you have it. Let those dopes call people names, use bad facts with janky sources, and demonstrate their brain rot. You have the moral and intellectual POV, let them look unserious by saying FJB, or whatever sexist pejorative they have for AOC, or any woman in governance or whatever dumb thing is the issue of the day dictated by conservative media. Yeah they don’t deserve your respect, but give it to them anyway because you’re the better person.
Sorry, I missed this as we were probably both posting at the same time.
The old and worn out, “when they go low, we go high” doesn’t work for me anymore as I see where it has gotten us. Further, IMHO, respect is earned, not given. I don’t have a blank checkbook of respect. That account is empty.
There was a time where I agreed with you Tim, about the nicknames. But I realized over time, no amount of respect given matters to these folks. They are brainwashed to the point that no amount of respectful good faith arguments mean anything. I used to think that Halifax’s message was too important to be watered down by the silliness, but he realized before the rest of us that it simply no longer matters. At least not on a rock band’s forum, anyway. All we can do is wait out trump’s McArteries and move on from there.
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Does Rupert Murdick’s motivation make a little more sense?
Gerd Heidemann, journalist at center of Hitler diary hoax, dies at 93
In 1983, he reported that he had located 62 diaries of Adolf Hitler -- a “scoop of the century” that turned out to be the mistake of a lifetime. The diaries were forged.
In his prime, German journalist Gerd Heidemann was a swashbuckling correspondent for Stern, a widely read Hamburg weekly similar to Life magazine. His reportorial sleuthing had earned him the moniker “der Spürhund” — the Bloodhound.
Even by bloodhound standards, the story Mr. Heidemann dropped in 1983 was a sensation. A collector of artifacts from the Nazi era, he reported that he had located 62 volumes of Adolf Hitler’s diaries, a trove that had supposedly remained hidden away since it was salvaged from the wreckage of a plane crash in the final days of World War II.
In headlines splayed across news publications around the world, the diaries were heralded as a discovery that might rewrite history with their glimpses into Hitler’s mind.
Writing in the journals, Hitler purportedly remarked that British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain had “nearly outsmarted” him with the Munich Agreement of 1938, in which Nazi Germany annexed part of Czechoslovakia in exchange for a short-lived promise of peace. In more personal passages, he confided titillating details about his relationship with Eva Braun, his mistress, including her complaints about his halitosis.
As Hitler is represented in the diaries, he blames Jews for Germany’s problems, suggests that they should be sent overseas and expresses his hope that the ships carrying them might sink. But he displays an apparent ignorance of the fate of the 6 million Jews murdered in the Holocaust, a revelation that, if true, was certain to please Nazi sympathizers and pseudo-historians intent on bolstering their revisionist history.
But within days of publishing the diaries, Stern’s self-described “scoop of the century” was exposed as the mistake of a lifetime for the principals involved, not least Mr. Heidemann. The diaries were a fraud, the clumsy creation of a forger named Konrad Kujau, who sold the fakes to Mr. Heidemann for $3.75 million.
Mr. Heidemann, who died Dec. 9 at a hospital in Hamburg at 93, spent much of the rest of his life haunted by the affair.
He was sentenced to more than four years in prison for his role in the scandal, in which he was accused of pocketing part of the money Stern had disbursed for the diaries. Kujau, too, went to prison.
Mr. Heidemann insisted that he had given the money to Kujau and charged that he had been scapegoated in a journalistic catastrophe in which there was abundant blame to share — with the masthead of his magazine, with news publications on both sides of the Atlantic and with several historians taken in by the hoax.
The supposed provenance of the diaries was soaked in drama. According to Mr. Heidemann’s initial account, the notebooks were spirited out of Berlin by plane along with other items belonging to Hitler as the war approached its end. When a plane ferrying the materials crashed near Dresden, farmers rescued the diaries, which ultimately ended up in the custody of an East German officer. By the early 1980s, the officer decided to sell.
Hugh Trevor-Roper, a prominent scholar of Hitler, was the most noted historian to confirm the authenticity of the diaries. He later reversed himself in a turnabout that tarnished his reputation. But on the basis of that initial verification, and despite doubts expressed by some of his own journalists, media baron Rupert Murdoch ordered the Sunday Times of London to move forward with a breathless report about the diaries.
In the United States, Newsweek magazine, then owned by The Washington Post Co., flashed the news of “Hitler’s Secret Diaries” on the cover, although with a disclaimer: “Are They Genuine?”
As was obvious in hindsight, they were not. Kujau had fashioned the diaries with paper and glue manufactured at least a decade after Hitler died. He failed even to make a credible facsimile of Hitler’s signature. The crude nature of the forgeries made the hoax all the more embarrassing for everyone who fell for it.
“The pressure … to go along with this story was just mind-boggling,” Kenneth Rendell, a leading U.S. dealer of historical documents who debunked the diaries in a subsequent issue of Newsweek, recalled after Mr. Heidemann’s death.
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Try again. Halifax responded to an article I posted with Andy Ngo's photo and name in the upper left corner.
haven't you picked up on a central fact about him? H2M that is?
Yes, one disturbing “central fact”.
Shame on the apologists above. Again, how this poster has been enabled to behave in the manner he does day in and day out is a disgrace. The angry, hateful, passive aggressive attacks are celebrated here.
Try again. Halifax responded to an article I posted with Andy Ngo's photo and name in the upper left corner.
haven't you picked up on a central fact about him? H2M that is?
Yes, one disturbing “central fact”.
Shame on the apologists above. Again, how this poster has been enabled to behave in the manner he does day in and day out is a disgrace. The angry, hateful, passive aggressive attacks are celebrated here.
yeah, no.
its within board rules. or the mods who are fair and firm , would have dealt with it already.
and this board name you have is too new to know how many here go round and round with that poster.
but do go on with your all knowing declaritive statements.
happy holidays.
edit to add, this is preschool tame compared to what jumped off here in this subforum before posting was a paid membership perk.
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"Authorities recovered a handgun they believe was used in the shooting, according to Barnes. He said Monday night that the shooting occurred in a classroom during study hall with students of different grades." "A CLASSROOM DURING STUDY HALL WITH STUDENTS OF DIFFERENT GRADES". Damn that Andy Ngo!
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A 15 year old with a disdain for all men?
A 17 year old with an as yet unknown motive?
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haven't you picked up on a central fact about him? H2M that is?
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Now explain to the esteemed readers of the AMT what racial connotations I imply when I call various turds by the following:
POOTWH
Elongitaint
Matt Getts Off
Bull Durham
Deathsantis
Maggie Three Names
Lorena Bobbitt
Sandra Hucksterbee
Abbott & Costello
JD Byryder
Devin Nunca
Shrub
Turd Blossom
Andy No, as in no, Andy isn’t factual and should not be considered a reliable source when they can’t differentiate between a library and a classroom/study hall.
Because you want it to be doesn’t make it so.
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”Incensed?” Yup, that’s me. Because of Andy No’s inaccurate reporting, the self-proclaimed “nobody but me” reporting on Twitter, the new legacy and go to source of reporting platform for all your “facts.”
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Guys just use peoples real names and stop with Facebook-esque boomer shit posting. its tacky as fuck.
Please use the ignore feature. Thank you
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This place hasn’t been serious for well over a decade now. Where you been?
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-EV 8/14/93
The old and worn out, “when they go low, we go high” doesn’t work for me anymore as I see where it has gotten us. Further, IMHO, respect is earned, not given. I don’t have a blank checkbook of respect. That account is empty.
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-EV 8/14/93
Gerd Heidemann, journalist at center of Hitler diary hoax, dies at 93
In 1983, he reported that he had located 62 diaries of Adolf Hitler -- a “scoop of the century” that turned out to be the mistake of a lifetime. The diaries were forged.
In his prime, German journalist Gerd Heidemann was a swashbuckling correspondent for Stern, a widely read Hamburg weekly similar to Life magazine. His reportorial sleuthing had earned him the moniker “der Spürhund” — the Bloodhound.
Even by bloodhound standards, the story Mr. Heidemann dropped in 1983 was a sensation. A collector of artifacts from the Nazi era, he reported that he had located 62 volumes of Adolf Hitler’s diaries, a trove that had supposedly remained hidden away since it was salvaged from the wreckage of a plane crash in the final days of World War II.
In headlines splayed across news publications around the world, the diaries were heralded as a discovery that might rewrite history with their glimpses into Hitler’s mind.
Writing in the journals, Hitler purportedly remarked that British Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain had “nearly outsmarted” him with the Munich Agreement of 1938, in which Nazi Germany annexed part of Czechoslovakia in exchange for a short-lived promise of peace. In more personal passages, he confided titillating details about his relationship with Eva Braun, his mistress, including her complaints about his halitosis.
As Hitler is represented in the diaries, he blames Jews for Germany’s problems, suggests that they should be sent overseas and expresses his hope that the ships carrying them might sink. But he displays an apparent ignorance of the fate of the 6 million Jews murdered in the Holocaust, a revelation that, if true, was certain to please Nazi sympathizers and pseudo-historians intent on bolstering their revisionist history.
But within days of publishing the diaries, Stern’s self-described “scoop of the century” was exposed as the mistake of a lifetime for the principals involved, not least Mr. Heidemann. The diaries were a fraud, the clumsy creation of a forger named Konrad Kujau, who sold the fakes to Mr. Heidemann for $3.75 million.
Mr. Heidemann, who died Dec. 9 at a hospital in Hamburg at 93, spent much of the rest of his life haunted by the affair.
He was sentenced to more than four years in prison for his role in the scandal, in which he was accused of pocketing part of the money Stern had disbursed for the diaries. Kujau, too, went to prison.
Mr. Heidemann insisted that he had given the money to Kujau and charged that he had been scapegoated in a journalistic catastrophe in which there was abundant blame to share — with the masthead of his magazine, with news publications on both sides of the Atlantic and with several historians taken in by the hoax.
The supposed provenance of the diaries was soaked in drama. According to Mr. Heidemann’s initial account, the notebooks were spirited out of Berlin by plane along with other items belonging to Hitler as the war approached its end. When a plane ferrying the materials crashed near Dresden, farmers rescued the diaries, which ultimately ended up in the custody of an East German officer. By the early 1980s, the officer decided to sell.
Hugh Trevor-Roper, a prominent scholar of Hitler, was the most noted historian to confirm the authenticity of the diaries. He later reversed himself in a turnabout that tarnished his reputation. But on the basis of that initial verification, and despite doubts expressed by some of his own journalists, media baron Rupert Murdoch ordered the Sunday Times of London to move forward with a breathless report about the diaries.
In the United States, Newsweek magazine, then owned by The Washington Post Co., flashed the news of “Hitler’s Secret Diaries” on the cover, although with a disclaimer: “Are They Genuine?”
As was obvious in hindsight, they were not. Kujau had fashioned the diaries with paper and glue manufactured at least a decade after Hitler died. He failed even to make a credible facsimile of Hitler’s signature. The crude nature of the forgeries made the hoax all the more embarrassing for everyone who fell for it.
“The pressure … to go along with this story was just mind-boggling,” Kenneth Rendell, a leading U.S. dealer of historical documents who debunked the diaries in a subsequent issue of Newsweek, recalled after Mr. Heidemann’s death.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/obituaries/2024/12/20/gerd-heidemann-hitler-diaries-dead/
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14