** Judge Throws Out Obama Citizenship Lawsuit **

fugawzi

again with the birth certificate? You're clinging to that like a Cuban on a raft (no offense Cubans I'm Hispanic) Even after 4 independent websites have confirmed it's authenticity? One of those sites' founders endorsed McCain. After Politifact wrote:

"There is not one shred of evidence to disprove PolitiFact’s conclusion that the candidate’s name is Barack Hussein Obama, or to support allegations that the birth certificate he released isn’t authentic. And that’s true no matter how many people cling to some hint of doubt and use the Internet to fuel their innate sense of distrust."

After even conservatives have said Obama was born in the U.S.? After Berg has failed miserably at these types of suits. Let it GO!

DriftingByTheStorm

fugawzi wrote:

I don't see any proof of this claim at all. Can you direct me to it? I've looked. All I've found was that he endorsed Obama. No proof he was an advisor. Also, I don't see any proof that Brzezinski is related to any corporate interest. I'm just asking for some proof that's all.

NY Sun

NY Sun wrote:

Despite Criticism, Obama Stands By Adviser Brzezinski
By RUSSELL BERMAN, Staff Reporter of the Sun | September 13, 2007

WASHINGTON — Senator Obama is standing by one of his top foreign policy advisers, Zbigniew Brzezinski, despite concerns that aligning with the former aide to President Carter will undermine Mr. Obama's support with the pro-Israel community.

Mr. Brzezinski, who served as national security adviser in the Carter administration, introduced Mr. Obama before a major policy speech on Iraq yesterday in Iowa, where the Illinois senator praised his work on the Camp David Accords and called him "one of our most outstanding thinkers."

Mr. Obama's embrace of Mr. Brzezinski has angered some supporters of Israel put off by Mr. Brzezinski's criticism of the Jewish state in recent years and his praise for the authors of a book that condemns the influence of the "Israel lobby." Mr. Obama's campaign has disavowed the book, "The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy," by John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt.

A Harvard law professor and supporter of Senator Clinton, Alan Dershowitz, said Tuesday that Mr. Obama had "made a terrible mistake" by aligning with Mr. Brzezinski.

A spokeswoman for the Obama campaign, Jennifer Psaki, yesterday pointed to the fact that Messrs. Brzezinski and Obama both opposed the Iraq war from the beginning, unlike Mrs. Clinton, and she suggested the Clinton camp was trying to smear Mr. Brzezinski.

Given Mr. Brzezinski's opposition to the war, she said, "It's not terribly surprising that those who embraced the war would try to discredit him now." Ms. Psaki added: "Barack Obama has a strong record in support of a secure Israel and he will continue to foster a strong U.S.-Israel relationship when he is in the White House."

The Clinton campaign declined comment.

Brzezinski crawled back in to the shadows of Obama's life when the public got wind that this son was working for the McCain campaign.

Obama in all probability was "recruitied" by Zbig back in his Columbia days -- and you can do that research yourself.

As for proof Zbig is related to "corporate interests", for gods sake the man was tapped by David Rockefeller to start and run the Tril-Lateral commission (sister organization to Bilderberg and the CFR) and he has ever since been running with the elite of the world, plotting and scheming for a transnational world where nation states are no more and global "governance" reigns supreme.

Here is the slimey lying bastard commenting on his own relationship, or rather, trying to distance himself from it. MR. GODDMAN POSTER CHILD.

His personal ethos is alligned with those major interests, and he in effect works on their behalf.

fugawzi

yea I saw that he might be on as a foreign policy advisor I was looking for some tie to a corporate interest as you alleged. Is your head gonna explode when Obama's elected?

DriftingByTheStorm

fugawzi wrote:

yea I saw that he might be on as a foreign policy advisor I was looking for some tie to a corporate interest as you alleged. Is your head gonna explode when Obama's elected?

Zbigniew Brzezinski was hried by DAVID ROCKEFELLER to head the Tri-Lateral commission.

Do you need to be reminded of who the Rockefellers are?
The second most powerful family in the world, perhaps?

???

No.
I won't give one toot who gets "elected", be it McCain or Obama.
They are both steaming piles of shit.

Vedderlution_Baby

So is all of this stuff with the questioning of Obama's nationality over?

DriftingByTheStorm

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

So is all of this stuff with the questioning of Obama's nationality over?

Not in the slightest,
and the only person to blame for that is Obama himself,
because his campaign just had a chance to end the questions once and for all.

Instead they chose to make a joke of the civil court system, and managed to get a judge to throw out the case by saying that violations of the constitutional election laws aren't important enough for ANYone to bring suit over.

Funny stuff, right?

fugawzi

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Zbigniew Brzezinski was hried by DAVID ROCKEFELLER to head the Tri-Lateral commission.
Do you need to be reminded of who the Rockefellers are?

Yeeeeea....the Rockefellers. Sorry that doesn't really scream corporate interest just because they're rich. you gotta do a little better than that. Come on man.

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

So is all of this stuff with the questioning of Obama's nationality over?

No they'll cling to it as long as possible. Probably until Obama's first term is over. He'll be retired facing lawsuits about his birth certificate.

fugawzi

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Instead they chose to make a joke of the civil court system

The only one doing that is Berg. So now Obama somehow got the judge to throw the case out? Pass that kool-aid.

Vedderlution_Baby

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Not in the slightest,
and the only person to blame for that is Obama himself,
because his campaign just had a chance to end the questions once and for all.

Instead they chose to make a joke of the civil court system, and managed to get a judge to throw out the case by saying that violations of the constitutional election laws aren't important enough for ANYone to bring suit over.

Funny stuff, right?

But is another lawsuit going to brought up directly questioning his eligibility for the office of president because of his birth place, or will it just be harped on without and direct action being taken?

prytoj

chiefojibwa wrote:

hmmm....legitimate journalists that are part of the mainstream media who are in the tank for obama? be careful, your snake just ate it's tail.

either you do not read very well, or you are just as big a spinster as the liberal elite.

fugawzi

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

But is another lawsuit going to brought up directly questioning his eligibility for the office of president because of his birth place, or will it just be harped on without and direct action being taken?

I said the same thing last night, I'll say it again. Anyone can bring a lawsuit and claim anything. Doesn't mean it will hold any merit, doesn't mean it's any less frivolous. It's something Obama will probably face for a while. This Berg character has had Obama in his crosshairs for a while now. He's a lunatic conspiracy theorist Clinton supporter who won't give up. BUT, until this actually becomes anything more than nonsense, it's a non-issue. When this actually becomes valid, when this is what you hear as the first story on evening news, that Obama was proven to not be born in this country beyond a reasonable doubt, PM me or post it here. I will be here and admit I was WRONG. Something tells me I might be waiting a long time for that though.

prytoj wrote:

either you do not read very well, or you are just as big a spinster as the liberal elite.

Liberal elite. And John McCain is what? Conservative elite? 7 houses, worth at least twice as much as Obama and his wife. Various cars, not one but 2 full size campaign planes. Pleeeease.

DriftingByTheStorm

fugawzi wrote:

Yeeeeea....the Rockefellers. Sorry that doesn't really scream corporate interest just because they're rich. you gotta do a little better than that. Come on man.

You are far beyond daft.

The Rockefellers once had an absolute monopoly on the US Oil Industry ... Standard Oil Corp ... so massive it was broken by a Judge in to THIRTY FOUR seperate companies ... one of which is now Exxon, and one of which is now Mobil.

The Rockefellers still exert so much interest over Exxon that earlier this year one of them stepped forward publicly to chide the CEO and issue a difference of opinon in the media.

J D Rockefeller built Rockefeller Center in Manhattan, the largest privately held commercial complex in the WORLD. The Rockefellers are one of the major owners of Manhattan real estate.

FURTHERMORE, JD Rockefeller inherited from his dad controlling interest in Equitable Trust Company, which became Chase Bank, which at its time was THE LARGEST BANK IN THE WORLD, and is now merged with JP Morgan to be even more massive.

David Rockefeller was once the CEO of Chase bank himself... i dunno why ... maybe he liked having a paycheck.

The Federal Reserve was planned out in a conspiracy of legendary proportions at The Rockefellers private island in Georgia -- Jekyll Island.

The Rockefellers were instrumental in getting the Federal Reserve act passed, using a family member in the Senate as their weasle on the inside, and working closely with the Rothschilds, JP Morgan, and a few other key players.


To say "Sorry that doesn't really scream corporate interest just because they're rich" is just absurd.

Seriously?

prytoj

yeah, saying Rockerfeller is the epitome of corporate interest is like saying a bear shits in the woods.

kinda obvious, as obvious as the evil within the guy.

fugawzi

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Seriously?

SERIOUSLY. I'm well aware of the family and their fortune. I also know they aren't as powerful a family as they once were. And again, I see no ties between them and an Obama corporate interest. Certainly not Rockefeller plaza or Exxon, which by the way Exxon would benefit heavily from McCain's corporate tax breaks, as if they don't have enough money. I know you're not a McCain supporter but to say Obama has ties to Exxon through the Rocks. Talk about absurd.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Not in the slightest,
and the only person to blame for that is Obama himself,
because his campaign just had a chance to end the questions once and for all.

Instead they chose to make a joke of the civil court system, and managed to get a judge to throw out the case by saying that violations of the constitutional election laws aren't important enough for ANYone to bring suit over.

Funny stuff, right?

"and managed to get a judge to throw out the case by saying that violations of the constitutional election laws aren't important enough for ANYone to bring suit over."

letting that reality sink in for a moment.....


- Has to be 35 yrs of age or older. √ (check)

- Has lived in country for past 14 years. √ (check)

- Got judge to throw out case by paying him off....√ (check)

- Can present proof of natural born citizenship in legal forum where required..........¿¿¿ !

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fugawzi

prytoj wrote:

yeah, saying Rockerfeller is the epitome of corporate interest is like saying a bear shits in the woods.

kinda obvious, as obvious as the evil within the guy.

Again, where's the tie between Obama corporate interests and the Rockefellers? SHOW ME if you're making that claim.

DriftingByTheStorm

Vedderlution_Baby! wrote:

But is another lawsuit going to brought up directly questioning his eligibility for the office of president because of his birth place, or will it just be harped on without and direct action being taken?

There are, i believe, currently SEVEN similar law suits in other state courts.

Berg will be prohibited from filing the same case himself, as part of having your case deemed "frivolous" means that you can never again bring that suit to court.

fugawzi wrote:

The only one doing that is Berg. So now Obama somehow got the judge to throw the case out? Pass that kool-aid.

When Obama's lawyers chose to let the deadline for disovery to pass without bringing forth the documents, what they did was say "we know that according to law we admited guilt, but we don't care because we are above the law, and we can get this lawsuit thrown out, instead." ...

there is no other way to read that ... OBAMA, BY LAW, HAS ADMITTED HE IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THE PRESIDENCY ... Berg cited that section of Civil Case Law ... its not made up , it is not open to interpretation, it is on the books.

Once again, did you read what the judge said when he threw out the case? Even as an obama supporter you should be upset. He said YOU DON"T HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHALLENGE A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE BASED ON THE CONSTITUTION ... is that not an issue to you?

And as far as the kool-aid goes, get another phrase to use, because you are referencing a conspiracy yourself. Most of the deceased at Jonestown were injected with poison or shot by US backed guerilla paramilitary troops. The kool-aid was a cover story. And guess whose name comes up in connection with that one? Zbigniew Brzezinski ... he apparently ordered all the bodies to be piled up in a heap, and their ID tags removed ... in order that they would all decompose quickly and not be capable of autopsy.

Jonestown. Look into it a little more.
I suggest starting with Part 5 of Evidence of Revision.

DriftingByTheStorm

fugawzi wrote:

Again, where's the tie between Obama corporate interests and the Rockefellers? SHOW ME if you're making that claim.

Besides the fact that Zbig is one of his advisors?

Okay.

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Barack Obama has spoken to the Council on Foreign Relations numerous times.
The CFR was created by David Rockefeller.

fugawzi

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

- Can present proof of natural born citizenship in legal forum where required..........¿¿¿ !

Considering he hasn't been REQUIRED to do that. If he was the case wouldn't have been thrown out. Man you guys are on to the BIGGEST conspiracy in U.S. history. A presidential nominee who wasn't born in the U.S. about to be elected. Somehow you see it, but major news outlets don't. I know they're all on Obama's side.

Smellyman2

I need to go listen to Savage to get my facts straight...