But is another lawsuit going to brought up directly questioning his eligibility for the office of president because of his birth place, or will it just be harped on without and direct action being taken?
I said the same thing last night, I'll say it again. Anyone can bring a lawsuit and claim anything. Doesn't mean it will hold any merit, doesn't mean it's any less frivolous. It's something Obama will probably face for a while. This Berg character has had Obama in his crosshairs for a while now. He's a lunatic conspiracy theorist Clinton supporter who won't give up. BUT, until this actually becomes anything more than nonsense, it's a non-issue. When this actually becomes valid, when this is what you hear as the first story on evening news, that Obama was proven to not be born in this country beyond a reasonable doubt, PM me or post it here. I will be here and admit I was WRONG. Something tells me I might be waiting a long time for that though.
either you do not read very well, or you are just as big a spinster as the liberal elite.
Liberal elite. And John McCain is what? Conservative elite? 7 houses, worth at least twice as much as Obama and his wife. Various cars, not one but 2 full size campaign planes. Pleeeease.
West Palm 2000 I & II/West Palm '03/Tampa '03/Kissimmee '04/Vic Theater '07/West Palm '08/Tampa '08/NYC MSG I & II '08/Philly Spectrum III & IV '09/Cleveland '10/Bristow '10/PJ20 I & II 2011/Pensacola '12/Pittsburgh '13/Denver '14
Yeeeeea....the Rockefellers. Sorry that doesn't really scream corporate interest just because they're rich. you gotta do a little better than that. Come on man.
You are far beyond daft.
The Rockefellers once had an absolute monopoly on the US Oil Industry ... Standard Oil Corp ... so massive it was broken by a Judge in to THIRTY FOUR seperate companies ... one of which is now Exxon, and one of which is now Mobil.
The Rockefellers still exert so much interest over Exxon that earlier this year one of them stepped forward publicly to chide the CEO and issue a difference of opinon in the media.
J D Rockefeller built Rockefeller Center in Manhattan, the largest privately held commercial complex in the WORLD. The Rockefellers are one of the major owners of Manhattan real estate.
FURTHERMORE, JD Rockefeller inherited from his dad controlling interest in Equitable Trust Company, which became Chase Bank, which at its time was THE LARGEST BANK IN THE WORLD, and is now merged with JP Morgan to be even more massive.
David Rockefeller was once the CEO of Chase bank himself... i dunno why ... maybe he liked having a paycheck.
The Federal Reserve was planned out in a conspiracy of legendary proportions at The Rockefellers private island in Georgia -- Jekyll Island.
The Rockefellers were instrumental in getting the Federal Reserve act passed, using a family member in the Senate as their weasle on the inside, and working closely with the Rothschilds, JP Morgan, and a few other key players.
To say "Sorry that doesn't really scream corporate interest just because they're rich" is just absurd.
Seriously?
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
SERIOUSLY. I'm well aware of the family and their fortune. I also know they aren't as powerful a family as they once were. And again, I see no ties between them and an Obama corporate interest. Certainly not Rockefeller plaza or Exxon, which by the way Exxon would benefit heavily from McCain's corporate tax breaks, as if they don't have enough money. I know you're not a McCain supporter but to say Obama has ties to Exxon through the Rocks. Talk about absurd.
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Not in the slightest,
and the only person to blame for that is Obama himself,
because his campaign just had a chance to end the questions once and for all.
Instead they chose to make a joke of the civil court system, and managed to get a judge to throw out the case by saying that violations of the constitutional election laws aren't important enough for ANYone to bring suit over.
Funny stuff, right?
"and managed to get a judge to throw out the case by saying that violations of the constitutional election laws aren't important enough for ANYone to bring suit over."
letting that reality sink in for a moment.....
- Has to be 35 yrs of age or older. √ (check)
- Has lived in country for past 14 years. √ (check)
- Got judge to throw out case by paying him off....√ (check)
- Can present proof of natural born citizenship in legal forum where required..........¿¿¿ !
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Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
yeah, saying Rockerfeller is the epitome of corporate interest is like saying a bear shits in the woods.
kinda obvious, as obvious as the evil within the guy.
Again, where's the tie between Obama corporate interests and the Rockefellers? SHOW ME if you're making that claim.
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But is another lawsuit going to brought up directly questioning his eligibility for the office of president because of his birth place, or will it just be harped on without and direct action being taken?
There are, i believe, currently SEVEN similar law suits in other state courts.
Berg will be prohibited from filing the same case himself, as part of having your case deemed "frivolous" means that you can never again bring that suit to court.
The only one doing that is Berg. So now Obama somehow got the judge to throw the case out? Pass that kool-aid.
When Obama's lawyers chose to let the deadline for disovery to pass without bringing forth the documents, what they did was say "we know that according to law we admited guilt, but we don't care because we are above the law, and we can get this lawsuit thrown out, instead." ...
there is no other way to read that ... OBAMA, BY LAW, HAS ADMITTED HE IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THE PRESIDENCY ... Berg cited that section of Civil Case Law ... its not made up , it is not open to interpretation, it is on the books.
Once again, did you read what the judge said when he threw out the case? Even as an obama supporter you should be upset. He said YOU DON"T HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHALLENGE A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE BASED ON THE CONSTITUTION ... is that not an issue to you?
And as far as the kool-aid goes, get another phrase to use, because you are referencing a conspiracy yourself. Most of the deceased at Jonestown were injected with poison or shot by US backed guerilla paramilitary troops. The kool-aid was a cover story. And guess whose name comes up in connection with that one? Zbigniew Brzezinski ... he apparently ordered all the bodies to be piled up in a heap, and their ID tags removed ... in order that they would all decompose quickly and not be capable of autopsy.
Again, where's the tie between Obama corporate interests and the Rockefellers? SHOW ME if you're making that claim.
Besides the fact that Zbig is one of his advisors?
Okay.
NUMBER 5 ON THE LIST
Top Contributors to Barack Obama
University of California $777,593
Goldman Sachs $743,371
Harvard University $505,989
Citigroup Inc $499,598
Google Inc $493,705 JPMorgan Chase & Co $478,462
National Amusements Inc $437,669
Microsoft Corp $434,156
UBS AG $419,350
Lehman Brothers $391,624
Time Warner $388,063
Wilmerhale Llp $383,024
Sidley Austin LLP $371,166
Skadden, Arps et al $361,409
Morgan Stanley $344,130
Stanford University $342,749
Latham & Watkins $328,879
Jones Day $314,760
General Electric $299,434
University of Chicago $294,237
- Can present proof of natural born citizenship in legal forum where required..........¿¿¿ !
Considering he hasn't been REQUIRED to do that. If he was the case wouldn't have been thrown out. Man you guys are on to the BIGGEST conspiracy in U.S. history. A presidential nominee who wasn't born in the U.S. about to be elected. Somehow you see it, but major news outlets don't. I know they're all on Obama's side.
West Palm 2000 I & II/West Palm '03/Tampa '03/Kissimmee '04/Vic Theater '07/West Palm '08/Tampa '08/NYC MSG I & II '08/Philly Spectrum III & IV '09/Cleveland '10/Bristow '10/PJ20 I & II 2011/Pensacola '12/Pittsburgh '13/Denver '14
Besides the fact that Zbig is one of his advisors?
Okay.
NUMBER 5 ON THE LIST
Top Contributors to Barack Obama
University of California $777,593
Goldman Sachs $743,371
Harvard University $505,989
Citigroup Inc $499,598
Google Inc $493,705 JPMorgan Chase & Co $478,462
National Amusements Inc $437,669
Microsoft Corp $434,156
UBS AG $419,350
Lehman Brothers $391,624
Time Warner $388,063
Wilmerhale Llp $383,024
Sidley Austin LLP $371,166
Skadden, Arps et al $361,409
Morgan Stanley $344,130
Stanford University $342,749
Latham & Watkins $328,879
Jones Day $314,760
General Electric $299,434
University of Chicago $294,237
and the Rockefellers? There is a difference between his contributors and corporate interests that may be lobbying for him or vice-versa. One doesn't necessarily equal the other. Lots of people have endorsed Obama. That makes them corporate interests? No.
West Palm 2000 I & II/West Palm '03/Tampa '03/Kissimmee '04/Vic Theater '07/West Palm '08/Tampa '08/NYC MSG I & II '08/Philly Spectrum III & IV '09/Cleveland '10/Bristow '10/PJ20 I & II 2011/Pensacola '12/Pittsburgh '13/Denver '14
I need to go listen to Savage to get my facts straight...
LOL. And so you can hate on some gays, liberals, illegal immigrants, and autisitic kids.
West Palm 2000 I & II/West Palm '03/Tampa '03/Kissimmee '04/Vic Theater '07/West Palm '08/Tampa '08/NYC MSG I & II '08/Philly Spectrum III & IV '09/Cleveland '10/Bristow '10/PJ20 I & II 2011/Pensacola '12/Pittsburgh '13/Denver '14
Holy crap...the various testimony spells it out in black and white.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Besides the fact that Zbig is one of his advisors?
Okay.
NUMBER 5 ON THE LIST
Top Contributors to Barack Obama
University of California $777,593
Goldman Sachs $743,371
Harvard University $505,989
Citigroup Inc $499,598
Google Inc $493,705 JPMorgan Chase & Co $478,462
National Amusements Inc $437,669
Microsoft Corp $434,156
UBS AG $419,350
Lehman Brothers $391,624
Time Warner $388,063
Wilmerhale Llp $383,024
Sidley Austin LLP $371,166
Skadden, Arps et al $361,409
Morgan Stanley $344,130
Stanford University $342,749
Latham & Watkins $328,879
Jones Day $314,760
General Electric $299,434
University of Chicago $294,237
Barack Obama has spoken to the Council on Foreign Relations numerous times.
The CFR was created by David Rockefeller.
If you look at McCain's top contributors, quite a few are on this list.
I actually appreciate a judge that will throw out a frivolous lawsuit. I wish more would. I'm not saying that this one has no merit, but they obviously need to prove their points better to the judge.
"I'd rather be with an animal." "Those that can be trusted can change their mind." "The in between is mine." "If I don't lose control, explore and not explode, a preternatural other plane with the power to maintain." "Yeh this is living." "Life is what you make it."
Considering he hasn't been REQUIRED to do that. If he was the case wouldn't have been thrown out. Man you guys are on to the BIGGEST conspiracy in U.S. history. A presidential nominee who wasn't born in the U.S. about to be elected. Somehow you see it, but major news outlets don't. I know they're all on Obama's side.
If he continues to refuse such requests in the future, I think this could be a huge story. He's already down a peg over it.
We'll see.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
The only one doing that is Berg. So now Obama somehow got the judge to throw the case out? Pass that kool-aid.
Oh, so now the judges aren't powerful to effect elections? According to your side the supreme court judges stole the election from Gore for Bush, but Obama can't influence a judge? Libs have hated the supreme court for 8 years. I guess the libs just hate the constitution because apparently the judges only follow the laws.
For one of your previous questions:
If you can't see that Obama hasn't received any negative press since the Rev. Wright scandal (in the primaries) outside of FoxNews, in a heated political climate, there will be no evidence that you will listen to show that the media is in the tank for Obama. And guess what, the only time you hear the media talk about Rev. Wright, is when they are bashing McCain by saying "Well, we're surprised they haven't brought up Rev. Wright yet." They are begging McCain to bring him up so they can rip on McCain for doing it.
Liberal elite. And John McCain is what? Conservative elite? 7 houses, worth at least twice as much as Obama and his wife. Various cars, not one but 2 full size campaign planes. Pleeeease.
I wonder if McCain paid full price for his houses like Obama did? Oh wait, Obama paid $200k less for his house thanks to a slumlord who took advantage of the middle class that Obama so very much loves. Woop!
I hope most people in this thread are at least 30...
It would save a bunch of time.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
I hope most people in this thread are at least 30...
It would save a bunch of time.
Nope. Still a way to go yet. What's your point? That Driftings posting misleading false bullet points and someone under 30 dares to call him out on it?
I wonder if McCain paid full price for his houses like Obama did? Oh wait, Obama paid $200k less for his house thanks to a slumlord who took advantage of the middle class that Obama so very much loves. Woop!
Senator McCain doesn't even know how many houses he has....
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Nope. Still a way to go yet. What's your point? That Driftings posting misleading false bullet points and someone under 30 dares to call him out on it?
After a while age affords an individual a wider palate from which to perceive various circumstances in terms of recognizing repeating patterns in policy.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
what post were you reading exactly?
The only "speculation" was on his attendance at Bilderberg, and like i said, his staff would not issue formal comment on his attendance. And there was a MASSIVE motorcade guarded by federal officers ... and Hillary and Obama met on the same day ... and hillary has attendend recent Bilderberg meetings ...
... the fact that three of his economic advisors are former Fannie Mae executives ...
Wrong
My whole life
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
After a while age affords an individual a wider palate from which to perceive various circumstances in terms of recognizing repeating patterns in policy.
Well then, i'm surprised one of you older folks didn't correct Drifting on his false bullet point regarding the fact that three of his economic advisors are former Fannie Mae executives . It's been talked about before and proven false. I guess the memory slips a little bit the older you get though right.
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I said the same thing last night, I'll say it again. Anyone can bring a lawsuit and claim anything. Doesn't mean it will hold any merit, doesn't mean it's any less frivolous. It's something Obama will probably face for a while. This Berg character has had Obama in his crosshairs for a while now. He's a lunatic conspiracy theorist Clinton supporter who won't give up. BUT, until this actually becomes anything more than nonsense, it's a non-issue. When this actually becomes valid, when this is what you hear as the first story on evening news, that Obama was proven to not be born in this country beyond a reasonable doubt, PM me or post it here. I will be here and admit I was WRONG. Something tells me I might be waiting a long time for that though.
Liberal elite. And John McCain is what? Conservative elite? 7 houses, worth at least twice as much as Obama and his wife. Various cars, not one but 2 full size campaign planes. Pleeeease.
You are far beyond daft.
The Rockefellers once had an absolute monopoly on the US Oil Industry ... Standard Oil Corp ... so massive it was broken by a Judge in to THIRTY FOUR seperate companies ... one of which is now Exxon, and one of which is now Mobil.
The Rockefellers still exert so much interest over Exxon that earlier this year one of them stepped forward publicly to chide the CEO and issue a difference of opinon in the media.
J D Rockefeller built Rockefeller Center in Manhattan, the largest privately held commercial complex in the WORLD. The Rockefellers are one of the major owners of Manhattan real estate.
FURTHERMORE, JD Rockefeller inherited from his dad controlling interest in Equitable Trust Company, which became Chase Bank, which at its time was THE LARGEST BANK IN THE WORLD, and is now merged with JP Morgan to be even more massive.
David Rockefeller was once the CEO of Chase bank himself... i dunno why ... maybe he liked having a paycheck.
The Federal Reserve was planned out in a conspiracy of legendary proportions at The Rockefellers private island in Georgia -- Jekyll Island.
The Rockefellers were instrumental in getting the Federal Reserve act passed, using a family member in the Senate as their weasle on the inside, and working closely with the Rothschilds, JP Morgan, and a few other key players.
To say "Sorry that doesn't really scream corporate interest just because they're rich" is just absurd.
Seriously?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
kinda obvious, as obvious as the evil within the guy.
SERIOUSLY. I'm well aware of the family and their fortune. I also know they aren't as powerful a family as they once were. And again, I see no ties between them and an Obama corporate interest. Certainly not Rockefeller plaza or Exxon, which by the way Exxon would benefit heavily from McCain's corporate tax breaks, as if they don't have enough money. I know you're not a McCain supporter but to say Obama has ties to Exxon through the Rocks. Talk about absurd.
"and managed to get a judge to throw out the case by saying that violations of the constitutional election laws aren't important enough for ANYone to bring suit over."
letting that reality sink in for a moment.....
- Has to be 35 yrs of age or older. √ (check)
- Has lived in country for past 14 years. √ (check)
- Got judge to throw out case by paying him off....√ (check)
- Can present proof of natural born citizenship in legal forum where required..........¿¿¿ !
.
.
.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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Again, where's the tie between Obama corporate interests and the Rockefellers? SHOW ME if you're making that claim.
There are, i believe, currently SEVEN similar law suits in other state courts.
Berg will be prohibited from filing the same case himself, as part of having your case deemed "frivolous" means that you can never again bring that suit to court.
When Obama's lawyers chose to let the deadline for disovery to pass without bringing forth the documents, what they did was say "we know that according to law we admited guilt, but we don't care because we are above the law, and we can get this lawsuit thrown out, instead." ...
there is no other way to read that ... OBAMA, BY LAW, HAS ADMITTED HE IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THE PRESIDENCY ... Berg cited that section of Civil Case Law ... its not made up , it is not open to interpretation, it is on the books.
Once again, did you read what the judge said when he threw out the case? Even as an obama supporter you should be upset. He said YOU DON"T HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHALLENGE A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE BASED ON THE CONSTITUTION ... is that not an issue to you?
And as far as the kool-aid goes, get another phrase to use, because you are referencing a conspiracy yourself. Most of the deceased at Jonestown were injected with poison or shot by US backed guerilla paramilitary troops. The kool-aid was a cover story. And guess whose name comes up in connection with that one? Zbigniew Brzezinski ... he apparently ordered all the bodies to be piled up in a heap, and their ID tags removed ... in order that they would all decompose quickly and not be capable of autopsy.
Jonestown. Look into it a little more.
I suggest starting with Part 5 of Evidence of Revision.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Besides the fact that Zbig is one of his advisors?
Okay.
NUMBER 5 ON THE LIST
Top Contributors to Barack Obama
University of California $777,593
Goldman Sachs $743,371
Harvard University $505,989
Citigroup Inc $499,598
Google Inc $493,705
JPMorgan Chase & Co $478,462
National Amusements Inc $437,669
Microsoft Corp $434,156
UBS AG $419,350
Lehman Brothers $391,624
Time Warner $388,063
Wilmerhale Llp $383,024
Sidley Austin LLP $371,166
Skadden, Arps et al $361,409
Morgan Stanley $344,130
Stanford University $342,749
Latham & Watkins $328,879
Jones Day $314,760
General Electric $299,434
University of Chicago $294,237
Sen. Rockefeller Endorses Obama
Barack Obama Considering JP Morgan CHASE CEO - Jamie Dimon as Treasury Secretary
Barack Obama has spoken to the Council on Foreign Relations numerous times.
The CFR was created by David Rockefeller.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Considering he hasn't been REQUIRED to do that. If he was the case wouldn't have been thrown out. Man you guys are on to the BIGGEST conspiracy in U.S. history. A presidential nominee who wasn't born in the U.S. about to be elected. Somehow you see it, but major news outlets don't. I know they're all on Obama's side.
and the Rockefellers? There is a difference between his contributors and corporate interests that may be lobbying for him or vice-versa. One doesn't necessarily equal the other. Lots of people have endorsed Obama. That makes them corporate interests? No.
LOL. And so you can hate on some gays, liberals, illegal immigrants, and autisitic kids.
Holy crap...the various testimony spells it out in black and white.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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I actually appreciate a judge that will throw out a frivolous lawsuit. I wish more would. I'm not saying that this one has no merit, but they obviously need to prove their points better to the judge.
If he continues to refuse such requests in the future, I think this could be a huge story. He's already down a peg over it.
We'll see.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Oh, so now the judges aren't powerful to effect elections? According to your side the supreme court judges stole the election from Gore for Bush, but Obama can't influence a judge? Libs have hated the supreme court for 8 years. I guess the libs just hate the constitution because apparently the judges only follow the laws.
For one of your previous questions:
If you can't see that Obama hasn't received any negative press since the Rev. Wright scandal (in the primaries) outside of FoxNews, in a heated political climate, there will be no evidence that you will listen to show that the media is in the tank for Obama. And guess what, the only time you hear the media talk about Rev. Wright, is when they are bashing McCain by saying "Well, we're surprised they haven't brought up Rev. Wright yet." They are begging McCain to bring him up so they can rip on McCain for doing it.
I wonder if McCain paid full price for his houses like Obama did? Oh wait, Obama paid $200k less for his house thanks to a slumlord who took advantage of the middle class that Obama so very much loves. Woop!
Bears shit in woods now? This world is going to hell.
thx
It would save a bunch of time.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
I hope you're under 18
Oh. Ok.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
After a while age affords an individual a wider palate from which to perceive various circumstances in terms of recognizing repeating patterns in policy.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
I'll dispute a couple "facts":
considering? c'mon...
Wrong
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln