** Judge Throws Out Obama Citizenship Lawsuit **
DriftingByTheStorm
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I'm not even sure what to make of this.
It appears no documents were ever presented,
and the judge simply ruled Berg had no standing.
IF this is true, it would be seemingly monumental.
A judge ruling "no injury in fact" and "no standing" for bringing a constiutionaly hinged suite?
My friend also got his "frivolous" charges thrown in there.
Which is also upsetting to see -- reminds me of tax-truth court case decisions.
Sigh.
I just find it distressing that the judge would dismiss a case before recieving the requested documents, if that is what happened. Looking for more news now.
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It appears no documents were ever presented,
and the judge simply ruled Berg had no standing.
IF this is true, it would be seemingly monumental.
A judge ruling "no injury in fact" and "no standing" for bringing a constiutionaly hinged suite?
My friend also got his "frivolous" charges thrown in there.
Which is also upsetting to see -- reminds me of tax-truth court case decisions.
Sigh.
I just find it distressing that the judge would dismiss a case before recieving the requested documents, if that is what happened. Looking for more news now.
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Philadelphia Daily News wrote:MICHAEL HINKELMAN
Philadelphia Daily News
October 25, 2008
A federal judge in Philadelphia last night threw out a complaint by a Montgomery County lawyer who claimed that Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was not qualified to be president and that his name should be removed from the Nov. 4 ballot.
Philip J. Berg alleged in a complaint filed in federal district court on Aug. 21 against Obama, the Democratic National Committee and the Federal Election Commission, that Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya.
Berg claimed that the Democratic presidential standardbearer is not even an American citizen but a citizen of Indonesia and therefore ineligible to be president.
He alleged that if Obama was permitted to run for president and subsequently found to be ineligible, he and other voters would be disenfranchised.
U.S. District Judge R. Barclay Surrick had denied Berg’s request for a temporary restraining order on Aug. 22 but had not ruled on the merits of the suit until yesterday.
A d v e r t i s e m e n t
Obama and the Democratic National Committee had asked Surrick to dismiss Berg’s complaint in a court filing on Sept. 24.
They said that Berg’s claims were “ridiculous” and “patently false,” that Berg had “no standing” to challenge the qualifications of a candidate for president because he had not shown the requisite harm to himself.
Surrick agreed.
In a 34-page memorandum and opinion, the judge said Berg’s allegations of harm were “too vague and too attenuated” to confer standing on him or any other voters.
Surrick ruled that Berg’s attempts to use certain laws to gain standing to pursue his claim that Obama was not a natural-born citizen were “frivolous and not worthy of discussion.”
The judge also said the harm Berg alleged did “not constitute an injury in fact” and Berg’s arguments to the contrary “ventured into the unreasonable.”
For example, Berg had claimed that Obama’s nomination deprived citizens of voting for Sen. Hillary Clinton in November. (Berg backed Clinton in the primaries.)
Berg could not be reached for comment last night.
Obama was born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961, and the campaign posted a document issued by Hawaii on its Web site, fight thesmears.com, confirming his birth there.
Berg said in court papers that the image was a forgery.
The nonpartisan Web site FactCheck.org examined the original document and said it was legitimate.
Further, a birth announcement in the Aug. 13, 1961, Honolulu Advertiser listed Obama’s birth there on Aug. 4.
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If I opened it now would you not understand?
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WTF?
Any harm coming from a blatant violation of one of our most fundamental CONSTITUTIONAL election laws is "TOO VAGUE"?
EXCUSE ME?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Or perhaps he was not.
Perhaps John McCain was really born in Ireland, or on Mars.
I love the political strategy of just suggesting things may not be true, with no proof whatsoever... And people constantly fall for it.
Maybe Obama is a Muslim?
Maybe Obama isn't a US citizen?
Maybe he has anti-American views?
Maybe Kerry didn't earn his medals?
Maybe Kerry wounded himself to get a Purple Heart?
These idiots go on TV, radio or the internet and say things that they cannot back up, but do it just so people on their "team" will run with them and take them as the truth.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
We're about to elect a guy who is loved by the same media, corporate interests, and corporate lawyers we claim to despise.
crazy world.
That didn't take long huh Drifting? What a SHOCKER. I guess the judge must have some ties to Obama or something. We all know Obama owns the media like other's have said in this thread. So what's Berg now 0-2 in frivolous lawsuits? People sometimes, I swear.
Again... with the victim mentality and persecution complex...
This "in the tank" or "in the bag" crap has gotten so out of control that it has become a joke.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
depends on who, and how many people ask I suppose.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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What if he had proof (as does everybody have this proof) but didn't present it?
seems to change it around a bit no?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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to deny the fact is equally funny. It's not a victim mentality. It just is what it is. And it is we who are buying it.
The media is NOT in the bag for Obama?
The corporate lawyers and corporate interes do NOT favor Obama?
c'mon
Where's the proof of that? Direct me to it please so I can read about it. If it's so prevalent then surely it has to be documented online somehwere. I've looked, can't seem to find it though.
Well the "legitimate" journalists are the ones who are anti-Obama. Didn't you know that?
Oh right...there aren't any anymore...
see Rupert Murdoch syndrome
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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The fact that he is one of your two "choices" for President should have been give away #1.
The fact that Obama and McCain both list in their Top 10 Contributors most of the major owners of the Federal Reserve (Citibank, JP Morgan Chase, Bank of America) along with 3-5 other major financial institutions ...
... and the fact that Obama received almost 30% more money from those same major financial interests ...
... the fact that Zbigniew Brzezinski was his campaign advisor ...
... the fact that he is considering Jamie Dimon for his Treasury Secretary ...
... the fact that three of his economic advisors are former Fannie Mae executives ...
... the fact that he most likely attended Bilderberg this year (i was there, and there was definately one hell of a "presidential" motorcade, and Obama's campaign staff wouldn't confirm or deny his attendance) ...
... need i go on?
You actually deny that ANY major candidate is bought and sold by the establishment?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
go on with what? more lies, half truths and speculation?
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
No I'm not denying that at all. I was asking for his proof of his claims referring more to the media being in the bag for Obama. I'm fully aware that presidential elections are ruled by money and special interests.
I don't see any proof of this claim at all. Can you direct me to it? I've looked. All I've found was that he endorsed Obama. No proof he was an advisor. Also, I don't see any proof that Brzezinski is related to any corporate interest. I'm just asking for some proof that's all.
edit: I see that he was or will be his foreign policy advisor but I don't see a link to a corporate interest.
what post were you reading exactly?
The only "speculation" was on his attendance at Bilderberg, and like i said, his staff would not issue formal comment on his attendance. And there was a MASSIVE motorcade guarded by federal officers ... and Hillary and Obama met on the same day ... and hillary has attendend recent Bilderberg meetings ...
... and you sound like you are in denial.
HERE IS SOMETHING FUN:
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If I opened it now would you not understand?
"There is not one shred of evidence to disprove PolitiFact’s conclusion that the candidate’s name is Barack Hussein Obama, or to support allegations that the birth certificate he released isn’t authentic. And that’s true no matter how many people cling to some hint of doubt and use the Internet to fuel their innate sense of distrust."
After even conservatives have said Obama was born in the U.S.? After Berg has failed miserably at these types of suits. Let it GO!
NY Sun
Brzezinski crawled back in to the shadows of Obama's life when the public got wind that this son was working for the McCain campaign.
Obama in all probability was "recruitied" by Zbig back in his Columbia days -- and you can do that research yourself.
As for proof Zbig is related to "corporate interests", for gods sake the man was tapped by David Rockefeller to start and run the Tril-Lateral commission (sister organization to Bilderberg and the CFR) and he has ever since been running with the elite of the world, plotting and scheming for a transnational world where nation states are no more and global "governance" reigns supreme.
Here is the slimey lying bastard commenting on his own relationship, or rather, trying to distance himself from it. MR. GODDMAN POSTER CHILD.
His personal ethos is alligned with those major interests, and he in effect works on their behalf.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Zbigniew Brzezinski was hried by DAVID ROCKEFELLER to head the Tri-Lateral commission.
Do you need to be reminded of who the Rockefellers are?
The second most powerful family in the world, perhaps?
???
No.
I won't give one toot who gets "elected", be it McCain or Obama.
They are both steaming piles of shit.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Not in the slightest,
and the only person to blame for that is Obama himself,
because his campaign just had a chance to end the questions once and for all.
Instead they chose to make a joke of the civil court system, and managed to get a judge to throw out the case by saying that violations of the constitutional election laws aren't important enough for ANYone to bring suit over.
Funny stuff, right?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Yeeeeea....the Rockefellers. Sorry that doesn't really scream corporate interest just because they're rich. you gotta do a little better than that. Come on man.
No they'll cling to it as long as possible. Probably until Obama's first term is over. He'll be retired facing lawsuits about his birth certificate.
The only one doing that is Berg. So now Obama somehow got the judge to throw the case out? Pass that kool-aid.
But is another lawsuit going to brought up directly questioning his eligibility for the office of president because of his birth place, or will it just be harped on without and direct action being taken?
either you do not read very well, or you are just as big a spinster as the liberal elite.