** Judge Throws Out Obama Citizenship Lawsuit **

DriftingByTheStorm

I'm not even sure what to make of this.
It appears no documents were ever presented,
and the judge simply ruled Berg had no standing.
IF this is true, it would be seemingly monumental.
A judge ruling "no injury in fact" and "no standing" for bringing a constiutionaly hinged suite?
My friend also got his "frivolous" charges thrown in there.
Which is also upsetting to see -- reminds me of tax-truth court case decisions.

Sigh.
I just find it distressing that the judge would dismiss a case before recieving the requested documents, if that is what happened. Looking for more news now.

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Philadelphia Daily News wrote:

MICHAEL HINKELMAN
Philadelphia Daily News
October 25, 2008

A federal judge in Philadelphia last night threw out a complaint by a Montgomery County lawyer who claimed that Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama was not qualified to be president and that his name should be removed from the Nov. 4 ballot.

Philip J. Berg alleged in a complaint filed in federal district court on Aug. 21 against Obama, the Democratic National Committee and the Federal Election Commission, that Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya.

Berg claimed that the Democratic presidential standardbearer is not even an American citizen but a citizen of Indonesia and therefore ineligible to be president.

He alleged that if Obama was permitted to run for president and subsequently found to be ineligible, he and other voters would be disenfranchised.

U.S. District Judge R. Barclay Surrick had denied Berg’s request for a temporary restraining order on Aug. 22 but had not ruled on the merits of the suit until yesterday.

A d v e r t i s e m e n t

Obama and the Democratic National Committee had asked Surrick to dismiss Berg’s complaint in a court filing on Sept. 24.

They said that Berg’s claims were “ridiculous” and “patently false,” that Berg had “no standing” to challenge the qualifications of a candidate for president because he had not shown the requisite harm to himself.

Surrick agreed.

In a 34-page memorandum and opinion, the judge said Berg’s allegations of harm were “too vague and too attenuated” to confer standing on him or any other voters.

Surrick ruled that Berg’s attempts to use certain laws to gain standing to pursue his claim that Obama was not a natural-born citizen were “frivolous and not worthy of discussion.”

The judge also said the harm Berg alleged did “not constitute an injury in fact” and Berg’s arguments to the contrary “ventured into the unreasonable.”

For example, Berg had claimed that Obama’s nomination deprived citizens of voting for Sen. Hillary Clinton in November. (Berg backed Clinton in the primaries.)

Berg could not be reached for comment last night.

Obama was born in Honolulu on Aug. 4, 1961, and the campaign posted a document issued by Hawaii on its Web site, fight thesmears.com, confirming his birth there.

Berg said in court papers that the image was a forgery.

The nonpartisan Web site FactCheck.org examined the original document and said it was legitimate.

Further, a birth announcement in the Aug. 13, 1961, Honolulu Advertiser listed Obama’s birth there on Aug. 4.

DriftingByTheStorm

The more i read, the more ridiculous this gets:

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Associated Press wrote:

PHILADELPHIA (AP) — A federal judge has dismissed a lawsuit challenging Barack Obama's qualifications to be president.

U.S. District Judge R. Barclay Surrick on Friday night rejected the suit by attorney Philip J. Berg, who alleged that Obama was not a U.S. citizen and therefore ineligible for the presidency. Berg claimed that Obama is either a citizen of his father's native Kenya or became a citizen of Indonesia after he moved there as a boy.

Obama was born in Hawaii to an American mother and a Kenyan father. His parents divorced and his mother married an Indonesian man.

Internet-fueled conspiracy theories question whether Obama is a "natural-born citizen" as required by the Constitution for a presidential candidate and whether he lost his citizenship while living abroad.

Surrick ruled that Berg lacked standing to bring the case, saying any harm from an allegedly ineligible candidate was "too vague and its effects too attenuated to confer standing on any and all voters."

WTF?
Any harm coming from a blatant violation of one of our most fundamental CONSTITUTIONAL election laws is "TOO VAGUE"?

EXCUSE ME?

brandon10

He was born in Hawaii. Get over it.

bootlegger10

brandon10 wrote:

He was born in Hawaii. Get over it.

Or perhaps he was not.

brandon10

bootlegger10 wrote:

Or perhaps he was not.

Perhaps John McCain was really born in Ireland, or on Mars.

blackredyellow

bootlegger10 wrote:

Or perhaps he was not.

I love the political strategy of just suggesting things may not be true, with no proof whatsoever... And people constantly fall for it.

Maybe Obama is a Muslim?
Maybe Obama isn't a US citizen?
Maybe he has anti-American views?
Maybe Kerry didn't earn his medals?
Maybe Kerry wounded himself to get a Purple Heart?

These idiots go on TV, radio or the internet and say things that they cannot back up, but do it just so people on their "team" will run with them and take them as the truth.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

we should really question Obama's connections to Hitler, even though i dont have any proof there was a connection.

prytoj

I'm starting to hear legitimate journalists pick up this story, and indicating that there is something to it. You'd figure something like this would be all over the mainstream media, I think the fact that it's not is an example how in-the-bag the media is for Obama.

We're about to elect a guy who is loved by the same media, corporate interests, and corporate lawyers we claim to despise.

crazy world.

fugawzi

fugawzi wrote:

But ok Drifting, like you said they will rule on it soon. And when they rule that it's a bullshit case I'll be here waiting to see what you have to say. Can't wait.

That didn't take long huh Drifting? What a SHOCKER. I guess the judge must have some ties to Obama or something. We all know Obama owns the media like other's have said in this thread. So what's Berg now 0-2 in frivolous lawsuits? People sometimes, I swear.

blackredyellow

prytoj wrote:

I'm starting to hear legitimate journalists pick up this story, and indicating that there is something to it. You'd figure something like this would be all over the mainstream media, I think the fact that it's not is an example how in-the-bag the media is for Obama.

We're about to elect a guy who is loved by the same media, corporate interests, and corporate lawyers we claim to despise.

crazy world.

Again... with the victim mentality and persecution complex...

This "in the tank" or "in the bag" crap has gotten so out of control that it has become a joke.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Some judges will get paid, and you will probably never see it go to trial if he isn't naturally born.

depends on who, and how many people ask I suppose.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

MrSmith wrote:

we should really question Obama's connections to Hitler, even though i dont have any proof there was a connection.

What if he had proof (as does everybody have this proof) but didn't present it?

seems to change it around a bit no?

prytoj

blackredyellow wrote:

Again... with the victim mentality and persecution complex...

This "in the tank" or "in the bag" crap has gotten so out of control that it has become a joke.

to deny the fact is equally funny. It's not a victim mentality. It just is what it is. And it is we who are buying it.

The media is NOT in the bag for Obama?
The corporate lawyers and corporate interes do NOT favor Obama?

c'mon

fugawzi

prytoj wrote:

to deny the fact is equally funny. It's not a victim mentality. It just is what it is. And it is we who are buying it.

The media is NOT in the bag for Obama?
The corporate lawyers and corporate interes do NOT favor Obama?

c'mon

Where's the proof of that? Direct me to it please so I can read about it. If it's so prevalent then surely it has to be documented online somehwere. I've looked, can't seem to find it though.

fugawzi

chiefojibwa wrote:

hmmm....legitimate journalists that are part of the mainstream media who are in the tank for obama? be careful, your snake just ate it's tail.

Well the "legitimate" journalists are the ones who are anti-Obama. Didn't you know that?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Where are all the journalists that ask candidates hard questions?

Oh right...there aren't any anymore...

see Rupert Murdoch syndrome

DriftingByTheStorm

fugawzi wrote:

Where's the proof of that?

The fact that he is one of your two "choices" for President should have been give away #1.

The fact that Obama and McCain both list in their Top 10 Contributors most of the major owners of the Federal Reserve (Citibank, JP Morgan Chase, Bank of America) along with 3-5 other major financial institutions ...

... and the fact that Obama received almost 30% more money from those same major financial interests ...

... the fact that Zbigniew Brzezinski was his campaign advisor ...

... the fact that he is considering Jamie Dimon for his Treasury Secretary ...

... the fact that three of his economic advisors are former Fannie Mae executives ...

... the fact that he most likely attended Bilderberg this year (i was there, and there was definately one hell of a "presidential" motorcade, and Obama's campaign staff wouldn't confirm or deny his attendance) ...

... need i go on?

You actually deny that ANY major candidate is bought and sold by the establishment?

blackredyellow

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

The fact that he is one of your two "choices" for President should have been give away #1.

The fact that Obama and McCain both list in their Top 10 Contributors most of the major owners of the Federal Reserve (Citibank, JP Morgan Chase, Bank of America) along with 3-5 other major financial institutions ...

... and the fact that Obama received almost 30% more money from those same major financial interests ...

... the fact that Zbigniew Brzezinski was his campaign advisor ...

... the fact that he is considering Jamie Dimon for his Treasury Secretary ...

... the fact that three of his economic advisors are former Fannie Mae executives ...

... the fact that he most likely attended Bilderberg this year (i was there, and there was definately one hell of a "presidential" motorcade, and Obama's campaign staff wouldn't confirm or deny his attendance) ...

... need i go on?

You actually deny that ANY major candidate is bought and sold by the establishment?

go on with what? more lies, half truths and speculation?

fugawzi

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

The fact that he is one of your two "choices" for President should have been give away #1.

The fact that Obama and McCain both list in their Top 10 Contributors most of the major owners of the Federal Reserve (Citibank, JP Morgan Chase, Bank of America) along with 3-5 other major financial institutions ...

... and the fact that Obama received almost 30% more money from those same major financial interests ...

... the fact that Zbigniew Brzezinski was his campaign advisor ...

... the fact that he is considering Jamie Dimon for his Treasury Secretary ...

... the fact that three of his economic advisors are former Fannie Mae executives ...

... the fact that he most likely attended Bilderberg this year (i was there, and there was definately one hell of a "presidential" motorcade, and Obama's campaign staff wouldn't confirm or deny his attendance) ...

... need i go on?

You actually deny that ANY major candidate is bought and sold by the establishment?

No I'm not denying that at all. I was asking for his proof of his claims referring more to the media being in the bag for Obama. I'm fully aware that presidential elections are ruled by money and special interests.

fugawzi

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

... the fact that Zbigniew Brzezinski was his campaign advisor ...

I don't see any proof of this claim at all. Can you direct me to it? I've looked. All I've found was that he endorsed Obama. No proof he was an advisor. Also, I don't see any proof that Brzezinski is related to any corporate interest. I'm just asking for some proof that's all.

edit: I see that he was or will be his foreign policy advisor but I don't see a link to a corporate interest.

DriftingByTheStorm

blackredyellow wrote:

go on with what? more lies, half truths and speculation?

what post were you reading exactly?
The only "speculation" was on his attendance at Bilderberg, and like i said, his staff would not issue formal comment on his attendance. And there was a MASSIVE motorcade guarded by federal officers ... and Hillary and Obama met on the same day ... and hillary has attendend recent Bilderberg meetings ...

... and you sound like you are in denial.

HERE IS SOMETHING FUN:

newsmax.com wrote:

Pa. Judge Throws Out Obama Citizenship Suit

Saturday, October 25, 2008 11:33 AM

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A federal judge has tossed out a complaint that Barack Obama's name should be taken off the ballot because he is ineligible to be president because he is a citizen of Indonesia rather than the United States.


Former Pennsylvania Deputy Attorney General Philip J. Berg claimed in a complaint filed in federal district court that Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya, rather than Hawaii, according to the Philadelphia Daily News. The complaing demanded that Obama’s lawyers produce a copy of his original birth certificate to prove that he is a natural-born U.S. citizen.


The Constitution provides that any U.S. citizen is eligible to become president if the person is 35 years of age or older and is a natural-born citizen; that is, born in the territorial United States.


On Friday night, U.S. District Judge R. Barclay Surrick sided with the Democratic National Committee, which had asked Surrick to dismiss Berg's complaint.


Surrick issued a 34-page memorandum and opinion that said the claims were "ridiculous" and "patently false." He also said Berg's effort to pursue his claim regarding Obama's citizenship were "frivolous and not worthy of discussion."


Allegations surrounding Obama’s place of birth have been swirling for months. Earlier this year, the Obama campaign sought to put down the rumors by making available a computer-generated Certification of Live Birth, issued in 2007 by the State of Hawaii. [See the Certification of Live Birth — Click Here.]


However, the 2007 document produced by the Obama campaign omits key information that normally appears on birth certificates in the United States, including the name of the hospital where he was born, the size and weight of the baby, and sometimes the name of the doctor who delivered him.


In addition, the critics of the 2007 document note that Obama's father is described as “African,” a term used today. The formal language in official documents at the time — 1961 — would have identified his race as “Negro” or “Colored.”


The Web site snarkybytes.com has produced a vault copy of a Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth from 1963, issued by the Hawaii Department of Health. [See the vault copy — Click Here.]


In addition to naming the hospital and more details about the baby, the 1963 vault copy also includes the “usual residence of the mother,” and the “usual occupation” of the father. None of this information appears on the 2007 Live Birth certificate produced by the Obama campaign.

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