Esoteric Agenda: Serf or Die! [WATCH THIS MOVIE!]

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  • You know,
    they all (Solfeggio scale steps) seem to be fairly consonant too.

    I started opening up new tabs to listen to other frequencies, and then i accidentaly let two go at the same time. Then i started deliberately playing 2, 3, or 4 of them all at the same time.
    528
    639
    741
    852

    gets a little muddy with all 4 of them going, but it didn't shatter any glass. lol. I gotta wonder what the neighbors are thinking ... relatively thin walls in these apartments, and i've got fairly loud monitor speakers hooked up to my laptop ... it was crazy in here for a moment.

    I really liked that 528 and the 852 going at the same time, for what its worth.

    :D

    shit gotta go take my 90 year old gramma to a party.
    haha. Gramma gets out more than i do.
    :sigh:

    :D
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    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • I just installed a program called Audacity, it's a sound editor with a really nice tone generator for Linux. (took like 2 minutes and it was free....love the open source)

    So anyhow I hook up the various frequencies one at a time. Damn....they create hotspots or pockets of reverberations throughout the house. It's trippy, you can literally walk in and out of the amplified pockets of sound in other rooms....louder...softer where they converge as you move around.

    The frequency patterns like in the sand vid seem to be getting created throughout the house in the air as well.

    UT – 396 Hz – Liberating Guilt and Fear
    RE – 417 Hz – Undoing Situations and Facilitating Change
    MI – 528 Hz – Transformation and Miracles (DNA Repair)
    FA – 639 Hz – Connecting/Relationships
    SOL – 741 Hz – Awakening Intuition
    LA – 852 Hz – Returning to Spiritual Order

    the 741 and 852 have colliding harmonics that you can hear as another layer of audio inside the tone. If you get them loud and pure enough (a sine wave tone generator really helps) it's certainly affects awareness considerably.

    I played 528 for about 10 mins, and I feel pretty supple...hehe
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • ClimberInOz
    ClimberInOz Posts: 216
    14 hours of marking down and about 36 to go so I will not get a chance to watch the video, at least for a while.

    I will say that I think that the single biggest threat to the human species is our population. Almost every single environmental issue stems from our population that is simply too high.

    It seems that one of two things will happen: Either we will modify our behaviors or our population will be modified for us. And currently it doesn't look like we are going to be doing the first one all that willingly.
  • 14 hours of marking down and about 36 to go so I will not get a chance to watch the video, at least for a while.

    I will say that I think that the single biggest threat to the human species is our population. Almost every single environmental issue stems from our population that is simply too high.

    It seems that one of two things will happen: Either we will modify our behaviors or our population will be modified for us. And currently it doesn't look like we are going to be doing the first one all that willingly.

    its on google video too, if you can put up with a bit less quality ... thats how i watched it, wasn't too bad. I agree about population, and so do the "elite". ;)

    Roland -- yeah, i love audacity. That's how i made that Pearl Jam\Beatles file a while back. Doesn't get any better for a FREE sound\.wav editor.

    :D
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • If anyone wants to get high and trip balls with the healing solfeggio frequencies.

    Check out this torrent (it's a 72 minute long MP3)
    http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/30805326/holy+harmony?tab=summary

    I think it helps greatly to sing along by mimicking the same vibrations throughout your core. The lyrics are "Yod Hey Shin Vav Hey"

    twist up a fatty....burn some incense...a kick it up monk style...

    hehe :D
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • Just screwing around with frequencies here today, and I noticed the that 356 hertz perfectly matches the entire main underlying frequency of the above song comprised of the solfeggio frequencies.

    anyhow....go back whatever crazy shit you're all up to today...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • MichaelMcKevin
    MichaelMcKevin Posts: 1,161
    This video keeps freezing on me at about the minute mark. Can someone give me a quick summary of it?
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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    so i take it you liked it then?
    ;)

    I'm glad that i got some responses.
    Hell, THREE people watched the whole 2 hours in ONE day flat? WOW.
    :D

    Spiral, anytime.
    You know i love me to share some information with my peeps.

    :D
    Hi, Drifting. My apologies for responding this late. I wanted to be able to focus on what I have to say, and didn't have the time yesterday. Thanks for bearing with me.

    On a whole, I really dig the message in this movie which is mostly put forth towards the end. The descriptors of reality vs illusion are very accurate and well presented. The solutions also are very accurate imo.

    It looks as though the creators have presented a way of mapping what is happening in the world around us that incorporates the fear that is palpable for those who share a similar worldview. Given that they incorporate this fear throughout the movie and then at the end talk about the need to make love choices, rather than perpetuating fear, and given that they mostly know what they are talking about in that regard, the fear incorporated throughout the film seems therefore deliberate. It's perfectly valid to do so. And yet, by doing so, they indicate to me that they are looking to hook a very specific audience. More power too them with that! I'm a firm supporter of any well intended message being fine-tuned to it's intended audience.

    That said, if a general mainstream audience is repelled by this format and message, it's due to the intended design and to the fact that it's not directed for a mainstream market. It's my guess that the mainstream market will find this message repelling, like many on this board are repelled by such a perspective. They'll view it as inaccurate, because the mainstream view holds that there is one reality, and anything that does not fit that is "wrong". It's not because these people are "sheep", or because they choose to be ignorant, it's because they perceive the same events from a different worldview, as by their own innate design. There are a gazillion reasons that a "mainstream" view is valid, too, and much of the beneficial social structures we all rely upon hinge upon this.

    This is why it's key for us to remember, as per a key point in this movie: All 6 billion people on the planet do not need to hear this message. (or any other similar message!) Only those with ears to hear need hear it, and those will find their own way to internalize the message, and "translate" it to those around them. For the same reason, when I speak on this board, I'm speaking for those who are naturally equipped to understand.


    I find that the movie is generally accurate in it's gist, even though there are some inaccuracies of perception contained within, imo. What I refer to are parts where the creators project into the "future" and tell us what will happen. The future doesn't yet exist, so to extrapolate, based on current happenings is guesswork. Therefore presenting such guesswork as direct statements without qualification, I consider factually inaccurate and instead to be personal/group opinion. Further, such guesswork hinges on a worldview that is coloured by fear. Fear distorts perception, and thereby any such claim is based on a foundation of sand. At the same time, it seems to me they are doing this in order to meet a certain type of intellectual framework - that of their intended audience. By meeting these people where they are in awareness, they are more able to transmit information. and therefore it will work for them in getting their message across as intended. By seguing to the empowering aspects at the end, they direct those with a fear-based perspective toward a better and more importantly realistic way, beyond the false programming of our lives, which importantly and prominantly features fear and lack as hallmarks. In that sense, they do a good job.

    In human developmental stages that are charted to date, the highest levels of human consciousness known - and the only ones that are truly realistic/accurate, are those wherein the individual has learned to access wholebrained functions, as this movie advocates. By integrating wholebrain function, fear no longer distorts what we see and subsequently create, and therefore we have freedom, peace, and instead we have our powerful potential at our fingertips in each moment.

    Unfortunately some people will be hooked by the fear of this movie, and not buy into the solution, and therefore, fear will be perpetuated, which fuels the cycles of fear/distortion/problems. Such is the fallout of justifying the unjustifiable: using fear/fallacy (false premise) in order to create change.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    angelica i really dig the message at the end too, but it's weird to say let go of what is happening and just let it happen.

    I see what you are saying in the sense that it is working on our fear because that's true it is, but what if it did happen, what then? Why should people not try to resist it? what would we gain from that stance?
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

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  • spiral out wrote:
    angelica i really dig the message at the end too, but it's weird to say let go of what is happening and just let it happen.

    I see what you are saying in the sense that it is working on our fear because that's true it is, but what if it did happen, what then? Why should people not try to resist it? what would we gain from that stance?

    See.
    I think its easy to misinterpret the final segment of the movie.
    Obviously to start, i repsectfuly disagree with Angelica.
    Her position is that the first 2\3rds of the movie is basicaly ficiton to draw in the intended audience (conspiracy nuts), and that the final 1\3rd is the part about "let it go, and learn to love".

    I disagree, both with the assessment of the first 2\3rds, and with the analysis of what the final segment is suggesting.

    First, I don't think these people would go through with all the trouble of documenting all of this "conspiracy" stuff in the first 2 hours, simply to "draw in an audience".

    Second, its silly to even suggest that they would bother to "make up" any\some\most of it. I mean, that information was all REAL. Where Angelica IS right, is that the movies interpretation of just what motive is behind all of these REAL treaties\legal frameworks\regulatiosn being drafted by UN agencies etc ... the interpretation of the motives behind that, and the end result of such regulations IS in fact just that: interpretation\guess work. However, it doesn't make it bunk or false. It just means that no one knows the future. But its not THAT hard to see where such policies would take us. You require every cow in the world to be injected with growth hormones and Monsanto patented genetic manipulations ... you are probably going to
    a. screw up the food supply
    b. place such financialy restrictive measures on producers that food production will fall below a level satisfactory to feed a growing population (most of which is in poverty).

    Second,
    i vehemenently disagree with the interpretation, "just learn to love, LET IT HAPPEN, and LET GO."

    That is CLEARLY not what the film makers intended, or they would NOT have INCLUDED the scene where they talk at length about group think, and not being a follower, and if you do become a leader, you should be teaching your followers to LEAD.

    There is a message of PROACTIVE RESPONSE in there. It is not at the forefront though, that is for sure. And why is that? Probably because the most important part of the movie IS the message at the end, which, as I interpret it is thus:

    In order to make any change in the world, you first have to be that change. [and that part is explicit, spelled out] But also, the amount of negative emotion created by the first 2\3rds of the movie ... all the conspiracy stuff ... which i firmly believe the movie makers believe is REAL ... all that stuff has a tendency to create extremely negative FEAR based emotions which, as it so happens, tends to STOP people from feeling empowered. "Oh shit. We're fucked. All this bad stuff is gonna happen. I'm so affraid. We are helpless. We can't do anything. I HATE THIS. THIS SUCKS. FUCK THIS. FUCK THAT. GODDAMNIT."

    That is the attitude\emotional mindset often created from such horrible realisations about the world. However and therefore, what this movie chose to focus on primarily at the end was not what specific things can be done to countervail the NWO, but more importantly what internal mental focus and emotional mindset must be attuned to by any willing participants in change. And they are right. If you want to make a difference you must stay positive, radiate love, and think constructively and with a "whole brain", as Angelica points out.

    But i do NOT think the message was intended to be, "Just lie down and accept this awful fate, because you know what man? Peace and LOVE is like ... all that matters, man."

    :D
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    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    I was speaking with my brother about it today, (i made him and a friend watch the film last night) and from what i could see he kind of got the message that we are fucked and somehow interpreted the ending to be lets not bother with trying to change the world. Lets lay down and let it happen, where as i walked away from it empowered and i agree we need to be as you said the change we want to see in the world.

    I guess i am also intrigued by angelicas view on what is happening right now in the world.
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

    The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052

    I remember posting this a while back on sound vibrations. Some phenomena cannot be denied such as the patterns created through frequencies. Everything in this universe is vibrating.

    Hmm watching that certainly had a weird effect on my cats they all got a bit freaked out and started looking round the room, even now that it's stopped one of them is sat hiding behind the speaker looking around cautiously. Mind you he is a bit of a nervous cat.
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    See.
    I think its easy to misinterpret the final segment of the movie.
    Obviously to start, i repsectfuly disagree with Angelica.
    Her position is that the first 2\3rds of the movie is basicaly ficiton to draw in the intended audience (conspiracy nuts), and that the final 1\3rd is the part about "let it go, and learn to love".
    This is not even close to my perspective. Therefore you are disagreeing with your interpretation of what I'm saying rather than with my actual view.


    I disagree, both with the assessment of the first 2\3rds, and with the analysis of what the final segment is suggesting.

    First, I don't think these people would go through with all the trouble of documenting all of this "conspiracy" stuff in the first 2 hours, simply to "draw in an audience".
    I respect all views, and see where they are coming from. I have defended "conspiracy theories/theorists" over and over on this board. I object to the term itself, as it's minimizing and demeaning and it marginalizes valid alternative views at great expense to many of the true visionaries who are needed to usher in our evolution from the fringes of society. I therefore never personally degrade another view to that of being a conspiracy theory. Or invalid for that matter. Were I to do so, I feel it would indicate my lack of understanding of that alternative and valid view.
    Second, its silly to even suggest that they would bother to "make up" any\some\most of it. I mean, that information was all REAL.
    If you are referring to me here, again, considering I don't suggest this at all, my view is again misconstrued and you are disputing your impression, rather than my actual view. If you are making a general statement not regarding me, please disregard this part.


    Where Angelica IS right, is that the movies interpretation of just what motive is behind all of these REAL treaties\legal frameworks\regulatiosn being drafted by UN agencies etc ... the interpretation of the motives behind that, and the end result of such regulations IS in fact just that: interpretation\guess work. However, it doesn't make it bunk or false. It just means that no one knows the future. But its not THAT hard to see where such policies would take us.
    The key to extrapolating as to where such policies would take us, is that what we are seeing is in the moment, given what's happened so far and based on that, what the end result would be. If absolutely nothing changes, what they say will happen very well could happen. However that's not realistic. People are working behind the scenes all the time, least of all us in this thread, and therefore there is so much that is done to offset what is happening in the world. I see visionary, aware, consciencious people doing great, amazing and highly potent work all the time. Not only that, but the negative forces are not the only ones that exist. Therefore, by using an assertion that focuses on the negative of what is happening, and extrapolating from there, the proposed outcome will be equally unbalanced. In order to see the big picture, and a more accurate perpective, negative things that go down, when paired with the other side of the reality coin, with the positive things, looks much different and balanced.

    Second,
    i vehemenently disagree with the interpretation, "just learn to love, LET IT HAPPEN, and LET GO."
    I don't see anyone making this assertion, whether in this movie or in this thread.
    That is CLEARLY not what the film makers intended, or they would NOT have INCLUDED the scene where they talk at length about group think, and not being a follower, and if you do become a leader, you should be teaching your followers to LEAD.

    There is a message of PROACTIVE RESPONSE in there. It is not at the forefront though, that is for sure. And why is that? Probably because the most important part of the movie IS the message at the end, which, as I interpret it is thus:

    In order to make any change in the world, you first have to be that change. [and that part is explicit, spelled out] But also, the amount of negative emotion created by the first 2\3rds of the movie ... all the conspiracy stuff ... which i firmly believe the movie makers believe is REAL ... all that stuff has a tendency to create extremely negative FEAR based emotions which, as it so happens, tends to STOP people from feeling empowered. "Oh shit. We're fucked. All this bad stuff is gonna happen. I'm so affraid. We are helpless. We can't do anything. I HATE THIS. THIS SUCKS. FUCK THIS. FUCK THAT. GODDAMNIT."

    That is the attitude\emotional mindset often created from such horrible realisations about the world. However and therefore, what this movie chose to focus on primarily at the end was not what specific things can be done to countervail the NWO, but more importantly what internal mental focus and emotional mindset must be attuned to by any willing participants in change. And they are right. If you want to make a difference you must stay positive, radiate love, and think constructively and with a "whole brain", as Angelica points out.

    But i do NOT think the message was intended to be, "Just lie down and accept this awful fate, because you know what man? Peace and LOVE is like ... all that matters, man."

    :D
    I basically completely agree with you here. I also feel that not only are we attuned to our greatest abilities for creating what we need to see in the world through keeping aligned with our highest vibrations, but by doing so, we also come to realize how much distortion our own slow, lagging fear energies create. When we clear our own inner lenses, and realign with the universal power that we've been trained to be out of touch with through fear, by eliminating the paralysing effects of fear, a whole new world emerges. Literally.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    spiral out wrote:
    angelica i really dig the message at the end too, but it's weird to say let go of what is happening and just let it happen.

    I see what you are saying in the sense that it is working on our fear because that's true it is, but what if it did happen, what then? Why should people not try to resist it? what would we gain from that stance?
    Please bear with me. I'll be back shortly to respond to you. :)
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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  • angelica wrote:
    This is not even close to my perspective. Therefore you are disagreeing with your interpretation of what I'm saying rather than with my actual view.

    I see what you are saying now, Angelica.
    It was the "foundation of sand" bit and some others in the body of your original response, and in particular the "fear\fallacy (false premise)" bit at the end that had me thinking you were criticizing the actualy information in the movie as "fallacy (false premise)" ... but i understand now that you are refering to the extrapolations about the future being necessarily biased by their sole focus on the negative forces in the world, and ignoring possible countervailing positive forces.

    I tend to believe that said balance is currently skewed, as per the saying, "all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing".

    or more accurately per Burke, "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle."

    It is the failure of the good to associate, that is causing the current disparity.

    "Divide and conquer" is certainly the MO of the evil forces in this world, and they do a remarkable job of it. Just look at everyone on this message board. We are all too busy arguing over who is the best of the worst\least of several evils, to even come together and acknowledge the greater problems. And that is just the tip of the iceburg in this discrepant climate of evil vs. good.

    :D
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    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    spiral out wrote:
    angelica i really dig the message at the end too, but it's weird to say let go of what is happening and just let it happen.
    When we realize that we are all one with everything around us, we realize we don't control anything to begin with. The idea that we must act now and change things reveals that we are still attached to the idea of our separateness, and of "us/them", which as this movie asserts, and I agree, is an illusion. Granted, it's a purposeful illusion, and it teaches us how to hone our power, and yet, it remains an illusion. Letting go and accepting what is, shows we have our awareness in perspective. Whether we rail against, deny or denounce what is happening, it's happening anyway. We don't "let it" happen - we're not at all responsible for the actions of others, especially when we don't condone them. Nor do we have any power over the actions of others. Such an idea of having power over others or the universe is false to begin with. Letting go of such ideas and accepting what is happening matter-of-factly is just seeing clearly.
    I see what you are saying in the sense that it is working on our fear because that's true it is, but what if it did happen, what then? Why should people not try to resist it? what would we gain from that stance?
    A lot of the stuff that is put forth in this movie is happening. It's happening within a much larger context. It's happening alongside innumerable other happenings. Much stuff is going down that is deplorable, sickening and reprehensible. And way beyond what this movie asserts. Ugly, ugly stuff. Fear aside, it's there plainly for us to see.

    If one is inspired to do something about what is happening in the world, I fully support them in doing so. 100%. There is a vast expanse between being fear driven and by being inspired to do something.

    The reason I don't suggest we "resist" anything is because we put ourselves in a position where we are joining into the unhealthy agendas of others. Willingly! To do so, we must necessarily accept a world defined by their actions and views and respond to that. We allow them to lead, and we follow. It's my understanding that in order to most potently activate our own power, it's crucial that we define how the world is for us ourselves--as per our own ideals, dreams, desires, and inner visions. Within our own dreams, visions, ideals, etc. there are things to resolve and overcome, but it's a very different world being Self or inner directed.

    For an example, I spent years entrenched in debilitating mental illness. I also saw much horror and mayhem that goes on in the mental health system. I saw visions that it needed to be changed and I focused on healing in order to create that change. It took years to resolve what was clogging my own perception. In doing so - in learning to become empowered as my own inner purpose dictated, I learned that as one person, I can singlehandedly catalyze an entire backlash to the psychiatric profession and to the crippling medical models of mental illness. I cannot change the profession and all involved. I don't have that power. I do have the power to write a book and show a vision of healing and recovery to many people though. At the least, I can consistently contribute to recovery and patient-centered empowerment models as I do all the time through my work and volunteer work. I'm so aligned with my own inner vision that I exude it in most everything I do. Whether I'm perusing the internet, or having a conversation with a friend.

    Have you ever seen that optical illusion trick where there is one stick in front of you. The challenge is how to make that stick shorter without touching it? The way to do so is to put a longer stick beside it. When people/the world are presented with Light, positive energy and solutions, they gravitate towards it, like a flower moves towards the sun. The most blind and disconnected individuals gravitate towards the high vibrations of Love/Truth/Beauty. Such high vibrations inherently supercede the sluggish energy of fear/resistance, etc. in each moment. Always.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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    Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    I see what you are saying now, Angelica.
    It was the "foundation of sand" bit and some others in the body of your original response, and in particular the "fear\fallacy (false premise)" bit at the end that had me thinking you were criticizing the actualy information in the movie as "fallacy (false premise)" ... but i understand now that you are refering to the extrapolations about the future being necessarily biased by their sole focus on the negative forces in the world, and ignoring possible countervailing positive forces.
    I understand. The foundation of sand clearly refers to the falseness and lower energy (aka blinded) view of the fear-based perspective. I've spent many years grappling with and coping with fear in order to navigate what's happening around me in awareness without self-destructing. Ultimately, when I learned the basics of resolving my fear, and integrating my awareness, the fear perceptions and all that were built upon them .... resolved. They dissipated. They revealed themselves as being an illusion. The result is that my consciousness united into a higher order. This is the birthright of each human being on the planet. Our potential.

    It's about tone. There is either a fear tone or a love tone. Frequency. Some people are drawn to a fear frequency, even though it's paralyzing and sluggish, because their own inner neglected fears seek outlet. The way to resolve this attraction to darkness and low-energy is to consciously first give fear an outlet (by feeling it), and to let it go. This is a process that one must enact each time fear is experienced. With no exceptions. It doesn't make us blind to the bad stuff in the world, it merely makes us see it clearly, without distortion, and with our potency to create as leaders without imbalance (ie: consciousness numbing behaviours). In order to do so, we need to access higher frequencies, and this in and of itself is turning the switch of our power to 'on'. People continue to be mass controlled in all manner of ways since they continue to deny/neglect/avoid the discomfort of processing their fear. Very few do this, and therefore 95 or more percent is not free of the group mind to varying degrees.


    We must accept/own our feelings 100%, without judgment. It is because over 90% of us do not do so, but instead block our "right-brained" "feminine-side" emotions, that we are completely unbalanced. What happens when we do not own and integrate our own fear is that we project our fear onto others in terms of making them the "bad guy". We try to give our fear away by making it about someone else. Therefore, it's really clear when we've broken the world into a false us/them dichotomy, which is a reflection of our own fragmented awareness. The individual doing so is in the process of denying and disowning their own emotions. The fact is that the universe and all it contains springs from a unified field of energy. In terms of neurology, when we own our feelings, and name and feel them, we process t hem and thereby enact higher brain processes of wisdom/intuition. The fear is utilized in the higher order.
    I tend to believe that said balance is currently skewed, as per the saying, "all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing".

    or more accurately per Burke, "When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle."

    It is the failure of the good to associate, that is causing the current disparity.
    I'll agree that within one context, evil appears to triumph because good men do nothing.

    In a bigger context, I see "evil" as merely lack. We are evolving and will always have one step back to coincide with the two forward. Sometimes that step back seems overwhelming and horrifyingly ugly. And again, there are perspectives far beyond that where this good/bad dichotomy exists right at this moment as resolved in a higher order, for when we are ready to attune to them and bring in energy from there to the benefit of the planet.


    "Divide and conquer" is certainly the MO of the evil forces in this world, and they do a remarkable job of it. Just look at everyone on this message board. We are all too busy arguing over who is the best of the worst\least of several evils, to even come together and acknowledge the greater problems. And that is just the tip of the iceburg in this discrepant climate of evil vs. good.

    :D
    Until individuals cross into the integrated and holistic developmental phases of human potential, not being there is identified by the us/them mindset. As with all lack/ignorance, the door is left wide open by the individual to become actors of nefarious energies. We choose this, and arrogantly so, all the while adamantly separating ourselves with our "rightness". At higher consciousness levels, this split between self/other becomes resolved and our inherent unity is acknowledged and is experienced directly as the backdrop to everything. It's currently human nature, in the majority of the existing developmental stages to be struggling through these issues. It's normal. It's where we are in our evolution.
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    I found the following on the website of one of those featured in the movie. I found a link to the website on the website of the creators of the movie.

    "Living from the Answer

    From the perspective of us participating in an ever-changing universe, the solution to any condition is a change in attitude and belief. And this is the great secret of propelling our heart’s desires from the possibility of imagination, to the reality of our everyday lives. The key is our ability to feel as if our dreams have already come to life, our prayers already answered, and live from that feeling. There is a subtle, and yet powerful difference between working toward a result, and feeling from that result. When we work toward something, we embark upon an open-ended and never-ending journey. While we may identify milestones, and set goals to get us closer to our accomplishment, in our mind we are always “on our way” to the goal, rather than in the experience of accomplishing our goal. This is precisely why Neville’s invitation to “enter the image” of our heart’s desire and “think from it” is so powerful in our lives. In the ancient studies of martial arts, we see a beautiful metaphor in the physical world for precisely the way this principle works in consciousness. When martial artists choose to break a concrete block as a demonstration of focus, for example, the very last thing in their minds is the place where their hand will touch that block. The key is to place our focus upon the completed act: the healing already accomplished, or the brick already broken. As a student of the martial arts, I was taught to do this by focusing on a point in space that is beyond the bottom of the block. The only way that my hand could be at that point was if it had already passed through the brick. In this way, I was thinking from the completion, rather than how hard it would be to get to the completion. I was feeling the joy of what it feels like to accomplish the act, rather than all of the things that must happen before I could be successful. This simple example offers a powerful analogy for precisely the way that consciousness seems to work. And this is the great secret that has been protected and preserved for us in wisdom of our past. From the monasteries of Egypt and Tibet to the forgotten texts of our most cherished traditions we are reminded that we are part of, rather than separate from, the world around us. As part of everything we see, we have the power to participate — not control or manipulate — but to consciously chart the course of our lives and our world."
    http://www.greggbraden.com/
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    And this from the movie creators' own website:

    "Religious scriptures feel vague and unfulfilling. Science feels unpredictable and incomplete. Politicians find privacy behind the protection of National Security while undermining the privacy of the people. Corporate America has become Corporate Earth as every nation's sovereignty is being compromised by a few wealthy families at the very top. Education is manufactured to disguise the true history of the planet. Media is manufactured to disguise the current events of the planet. Sports and Entertainment distract and influence emotions with sacred and subconscious geometry, symbolism, color, and sound.

    All of these seem to be disconnected and random occurrences from completely unrelated sources. But this could not be farther from the truth. There are no mistakes. There is nothing left to chance. There is an order and purpose to all that exists. Everything on this planet has been happened to set up humanity for WHAT IS COMING NEXT. The question remains: Will these events benefit or hurt mankind?

    The truth of the matter is, there are many changes occurring within the galaxy, our solar system, our planet Earth, and even within ourselves. What if there was an explanation for suffering, separation, status, discrimination, hatred, War, poverty, fear, love, and every aspect of our lives we dismiss as irrelevant or inexplainable as the work of a separate and untouchable God figure."
    http://talismanicidols.org/index.html
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

    http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta

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  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    Thanks for taking the time to reply angelica, your posts certainly helping me to understand things a bit better.
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

    The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.