Esoteric Agenda: Serf or Die! [WATCH THIS MOVIE!]
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Esoteric Agenda
You have 1 year before most of what is discussed here is intended for implementation.
"Serf or Die" ... I thought it was a cute pun, because according to the IUCN there are 2 solutions to all of the problems in this world.
1. An "agrarian" world where most of the people are peasants could support 5 to 7 billion people
2. An industrialized world with a current modern standard of living would be able to support around 1 billion people.
Choice 1 is the current population reality.
We have about that many people now.
I personaly would love to just stop, drop and farm ... in fact its my plan.
But tell me its YOUR dream?
hah
Choice 2 ... well, that involves the DEATH OF ABOUT 5 BILLION PEOPLE. :(
These are the people passing the policies that are determining your future.
There is some FUCKED UP SHIT in this film.
Who is the guy who just recently told me i was wrong, and said "there is room for all of us, chill out"
... buddy, you better start thinking fast, because the people at the top disagree with you.
So.
I suggest people take a look at this film and start thinking long and hard. See the problem is, the "elite" ... they know their shit ... they aren't stupid ... and alot of what they see as a problem really is a problem ... however, the cruel reality is there is NO easy solution ... and it sounds like the best way they've figured to deal with it is to place RESCTRICTIVE STANDARDS ON THE FOOD AND WATER SUPPLY to intentionalu starve billions of innocent people ... thereby rectifying the underlying "environmental" problem ... mankind.
:sigh:
I guess i always saw it coming to this.
I read "The Limits to Growth" and "Beyond the Limits" when i was in highschool, and just out of highschool (respectively) ... now, i fully recognize that the models used in those primitive (by current computing standards) calculations were of necessarily flawed (technologicaly restricted)
... but i really have to agree with the premise ... humanity is rapidly outstripping (has already oustripped) the sustained potential of its own ecological resource base to support such growth.
... and knowing now what "The Club Of Rome" really is ... and how that group is an offshoot of Cecil Rhodes little Illuminati club of clubs ... and how these are the pagan master planners of all humanity ... man it's just a bit scary and sad, really.
Any takers?
PS - I'm drinking "Southpaw" Beer ... godamn ... cheaper than PBR (thats Pabst, folks) ... and good. lol
[this coming from a guy who is a belgian beer whore, too]
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You have 1 year before most of what is discussed here is intended for implementation.
"Serf or Die" ... I thought it was a cute pun, because according to the IUCN there are 2 solutions to all of the problems in this world.
1. An "agrarian" world where most of the people are peasants could support 5 to 7 billion people
2. An industrialized world with a current modern standard of living would be able to support around 1 billion people.
Choice 1 is the current population reality.
We have about that many people now.
I personaly would love to just stop, drop and farm ... in fact its my plan.
But tell me its YOUR dream?
hah
Choice 2 ... well, that involves the DEATH OF ABOUT 5 BILLION PEOPLE. :(
These are the people passing the policies that are determining your future.
There is some FUCKED UP SHIT in this film.
Who is the guy who just recently told me i was wrong, and said "there is room for all of us, chill out"
... buddy, you better start thinking fast, because the people at the top disagree with you.
So.
I suggest people take a look at this film and start thinking long and hard. See the problem is, the "elite" ... they know their shit ... they aren't stupid ... and alot of what they see as a problem really is a problem ... however, the cruel reality is there is NO easy solution ... and it sounds like the best way they've figured to deal with it is to place RESCTRICTIVE STANDARDS ON THE FOOD AND WATER SUPPLY to intentionalu starve billions of innocent people ... thereby rectifying the underlying "environmental" problem ... mankind.
:sigh:
I guess i always saw it coming to this.
I read "The Limits to Growth" and "Beyond the Limits" when i was in highschool, and just out of highschool (respectively) ... now, i fully recognize that the models used in those primitive (by current computing standards) calculations were of necessarily flawed (technologicaly restricted)
... but i really have to agree with the premise ... humanity is rapidly outstripping (has already oustripped) the sustained potential of its own ecological resource base to support such growth.
... and knowing now what "The Club Of Rome" really is ... and how that group is an offshoot of Cecil Rhodes little Illuminati club of clubs ... and how these are the pagan master planners of all humanity ... man it's just a bit scary and sad, really.
Any takers?
PS - I'm drinking "Southpaw" Beer ... godamn ... cheaper than PBR (thats Pabst, folks) ... and good. lol
[this coming from a guy who is a belgian beer whore, too]
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If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
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Hell, just watch that part alone.
Any questions, class?
I've heard of confusion after a "tragedy" but like 25 different newscasts were wrong?
Puh leeeze.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
ra ra usa.
:(
If I opened it now would you not understand?
http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/37573950/Esoteric+Agenda?tab=summary
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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Go NWO! Go NWO! Go NWO! Go NWO! Go NWO!
You've watched this one, Roland?
Any thoughts?
Guys, this one isn't all doom and gloom.
To be honest, i was a bit humbled and in awe at the end...
Where the narrator basicaly starts talking about ancient\eastern space\time relationship and phsyical\metaphysical duality as related to modern science ... and then basicaly posits that all existence being guided by vibrational frequencies, you might as well say "fuck it" to fear, come to accept the changes we and all of earth are going through, and learn to love.
I dunno.
I'm not sure if i truly agree that there is nothing to do but love and live ... even he has clips of someone saying you need to train followers to be leaders ...
but i think the basic take away point, beyond the all encompassing conspiracy, was that the only real way to fight it is through massive personal change ... and that the energy created by that personal change can be the catalyst for others to make change.
Anyone?
It sure is an interesting take.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Makes ya wonder why they just recently built that ultra high security doomsday seed vault...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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cool.
yeah the seed vault ... i used to think those were super-nifty ... but knowing what i know now, it makes me more than just a tad suspicious. I mean, the biggest threat the flora of the earth faces is actualy the genetic manipulation by the very same people behind the seed banks. Hmm.
You'll like the movie.
I google.video'd it, because i'm having torrent problems.
Actually i think my 500g HD is in the early stages of failure. I keep getting "data error: cyclic redundancy check" and "error: the request could not be performed due to I\O device error" in the "status" column of utorrent for the two torrents that are going to that drive right now.
Shit.
Thats almost my entire media library, Pearl Jam included.
Think maybe i'll be ordering a new TB drive this weekend, doing a transfer and a format. :fingers crossed:
If I opened it now would you not understand?
best to get an external drive or DVD burner, and dump your docs to a safe place. I just lost 250 gigs a few weeks ago...oh well...I backup the intellectual property regularly though. Downloaded internet stuff is replaceable I suppose...
Lo and behold I find this link just now...
http://www.inteldaily.com/?c=117&a=5776
meanwhile I'm busy looking for some silver maple leaf rounds....
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Yeah, i see NWT is even out of stock at this point.
You really should just give up on the pretty little new mint coins and go for the grab bag of "junk" fun ...
when the shit hits the fan, are they really going to care and discern much between 99.99% and 90%?
My friend, 90% will do you just fine. I know i love my bag!
edit: hey, they still have their PASB .... are you really a silver "label whore"? lol ... come on ... i know a pick axe isn't a cute and cuddly as your little maple leaf ... but we're talking survival here, not aesthetics, right?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
"The world is like a ride at an amusement park, and when you choose to go on it you think it's real, because that's how powerful our minds are. And the ride goes up and down and round and round, it has thrills and chills and it's very brightly colored and it's very loud and it's fun, for a while. Some people have been on the ride for a long time, and they begin to question: is this real, or is this just a ride? And other people have remembered, and they come back to us, they say, "Hey - don't worry, don't be afraid, ever, because, this is just a ride." And we…kill those people. "Shut him up. We have a lot invested in this ride! Shut him up! Look at my furrows of worry…look at my big bank account…and my family…this has to be real." It's just a ride. But we always kill those good guys who try and tell us that, you ever notice that? And let the demons run amok. But it doesn't matter because: it's just a ride. And we can change it anytime we want. It's only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings and money; a choice, right now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your doors, buy guns, close yourself off; the eyes of love, instead, see all of us as one." ~ Bill Hicks
The occult is the natural knowledge/wisdom of natural law that is obscured from the masses on the surface. And yet this hidden knowledge is always 100% free, natural and absolutely simple for anyone to access at any given moment from within - merely by attuning to it. When we attune to a different "frequency", to that of the "esoteric" power that underlies everything, it's as simple as switching to the different frequency of a radio station. Such nature flows through all of us in each moment and can be accessed by simple choice. It cannot be controlled by any sort of power structure, because it's universal. The problem is that we all have been taught to buy into mindsets that have us focused on powerlessness and how to be unempowered. These false mindsets are two sides of the same coin, whether one abuses power for selfish gain, or whether one backlashes against that mindset in the name of "helping". Both are false, stemming from illusion, and keep us distracted from our own innate power and stunning potential.
Anyone who has learned to access our universal natural power and who holds positions of power - any power-mongering individual or group - is only able to achieve this power through accessing this said natural law that exists in and around everyone. When one has a bloodline and exists within a power structure that enables understanding of such power this process can happen fairly simply and with ease.
Ultimately, when the natural power of life/nature is utilized in ways that go against life/nature, even using life/nature to do so, this power ultimately comes back on itself. It is naturally self defeating. It is inauthentic power. Simply put, this "power" is an illusion. It is an illusion that makes the thrills and chills of "the ride" seem so real and important. Such illusion, like the imposed terror of an amusement park ride, extreme sport, or a scary movie, provides exhilaration and contrast to our experiences. This illusion is also such that as we uncover the potency of the frequency of what is Real -true, unconditional, Universal Love, or agape - we experience the resulting bliss/peace and joy of Self-discovery.
Many people have simply chosen to go on a long drawn out adventures or rides in order to get the full experience of the ride.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
I want my f-ing shiny .9999 maple leaf dammit!!!...(but all I got was a big fat bag of junk)....hehe...
I hear ya though, but you know the shortage is bullshit...tough love I suppose
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over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Why do you think the shortage is bullshit?
The idiots at the central banks dumped huge quantities of metals on to the market at the same time futures contracts were expiring, and large money interests were covering their long positions anyhow ... thus cascading the price of silver down from $22 an ounce to $16.5 ...
thats a 27% drop in the price overnight.
Silver was already nearing shortages ... you suddenly stick up a sign that says "30% OFF! First come first serve. Limited Quantities!" on your porch, and you're gonna get some serious customers ... ESPECIALY in THIS economic climate of massive fear and inflation.
Good work on grabbing your bag of "junk" though.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
It could be to push people into paper stocks. I dunno, I'm no expert, but I see people making a run on it, then when the price drops quickly, weak hands get nervous and sell into stronger hands. It's a nutty little game...but you;re probably right, historically there has been shortages for a long time. I still think it's bullshit though
Looks like I might have to start bringing a pocket scale everywhere I go..
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over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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"...you can go into a pitch black room full of evil, full of darkness, and light a little candle and instantly that darkness flees. But you can't do the opposite. You can't go into a well lit room full of truth and wisdom and righteousness and joy and health and harmony with the universal power - you can't take any amount of darkness and go into that well lit room and have any effect whatsoever." ~ Esoteric Agenda
The (inauthentic/illusory) "power" of darkness is limited and cannot overtake the light. It is simply not possible.
The following video represents the antidote to the limited fear-based, self-defeating mindsets we've been taught, of lack/fear, and that keep us unempowered, as well as showing the way to empowerment beyond the fear, through stimulating the unified field.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsvEkPNitdQ
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
The last bit of the film is defintely the most important message and cleared up a few unanswered questions i had.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
~ Esoteric Agenda
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
so i take it you liked it then?
I'm glad that i got some responses.
Hell, THREE people watched the whole 2 hours in ONE day flat? WOW.
Spiral, anytime.
You know i love me to share some information with my peeps.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
All I can say is....dude it's tripping me out.
My chest feels kinda tight.... :(
I hope they show some puppy dogs and butterflies at the end.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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I remember posting this a while back on sound vibrations. Some phenomena cannot be denied such as the patterns created through frequencies. Everything in this universe is vibrating.
So I look up the Solfeggio Frequencies and 528hz in particular.
rather interesting thread I found...avoids a lot of typing/copy paste etc...
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread341645/pg1
something to definitely think about...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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interesting thought about cats.
you know i can't help you on that one, though.
Heres some 528 for ya, if ya want it.
There are a bunch of them on youtube, including just the tone ringing ... which is honestly kind've obnoxious, but i liked the trance of this one.
It reminds me of a band i used to listen to, Electric Skychurch... saw 'em at a rave back in the d-iz-ay.
anyhow ... i'm sure we'll both be diggin' around for more on that ... new to me, fo'sho'.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
they all (Solfeggio scale steps) seem to be fairly consonant too.
I started opening up new tabs to listen to other frequencies, and then i accidentaly let two go at the same time. Then i started deliberately playing 2, 3, or 4 of them all at the same time.
528
639
741
852
gets a little muddy with all 4 of them going, but it didn't shatter any glass. lol. I gotta wonder what the neighbors are thinking ... relatively thin walls in these apartments, and i've got fairly loud monitor speakers hooked up to my laptop ... it was crazy in here for a moment.
I really liked that 528 and the 852 going at the same time, for what its worth.
shit gotta go take my 90 year old gramma to a party.
haha. Gramma gets out more than i do.
:sigh:
If I opened it now would you not understand?
So anyhow I hook up the various frequencies one at a time. Damn....they create hotspots or pockets of reverberations throughout the house. It's trippy, you can literally walk in and out of the amplified pockets of sound in other rooms....louder...softer where they converge as you move around.
The frequency patterns like in the sand vid seem to be getting created throughout the house in the air as well.
UT – 396 Hz – Liberating Guilt and Fear
RE – 417 Hz – Undoing Situations and Facilitating Change
MI – 528 Hz – Transformation and Miracles (DNA Repair)
FA – 639 Hz – Connecting/Relationships
SOL – 741 Hz – Awakening Intuition
LA – 852 Hz – Returning to Spiritual Order
the 741 and 852 have colliding harmonics that you can hear as another layer of audio inside the tone. If you get them loud and pure enough (a sine wave tone generator really helps) it's certainly affects awareness considerably.
I played 528 for about 10 mins, and I feel pretty supple...hehe
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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I will say that I think that the single biggest threat to the human species is our population. Almost every single environmental issue stems from our population that is simply too high.
It seems that one of two things will happen: Either we will modify our behaviors or our population will be modified for us. And currently it doesn't look like we are going to be doing the first one all that willingly.
its on google video too, if you can put up with a bit less quality ... thats how i watched it, wasn't too bad. I agree about population, and so do the "elite".
Roland -- yeah, i love audacity. That's how i made that Pearl Jam\Beatles file a while back. Doesn't get any better for a FREE sound\.wav editor.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Check out this torrent (it's a 72 minute long MP3)
http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/30805326/holy+harmony?tab=summary
I think it helps greatly to sing along by mimicking the same vibrations throughout your core. The lyrics are "Yod Hey Shin Vav Hey"
twist up a fatty....burn some incense...a kick it up monk style...
hehe
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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anyhow....go back whatever crazy shit you're all up to today...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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On a whole, I really dig the message in this movie which is mostly put forth towards the end. The descriptors of reality vs illusion are very accurate and well presented. The solutions also are very accurate imo.
It looks as though the creators have presented a way of mapping what is happening in the world around us that incorporates the fear that is palpable for those who share a similar worldview. Given that they incorporate this fear throughout the movie and then at the end talk about the need to make love choices, rather than perpetuating fear, and given that they mostly know what they are talking about in that regard, the fear incorporated throughout the film seems therefore deliberate. It's perfectly valid to do so. And yet, by doing so, they indicate to me that they are looking to hook a very specific audience. More power too them with that! I'm a firm supporter of any well intended message being fine-tuned to it's intended audience.
That said, if a general mainstream audience is repelled by this format and message, it's due to the intended design and to the fact that it's not directed for a mainstream market. It's my guess that the mainstream market will find this message repelling, like many on this board are repelled by such a perspective. They'll view it as inaccurate, because the mainstream view holds that there is one reality, and anything that does not fit that is "wrong". It's not because these people are "sheep", or because they choose to be ignorant, it's because they perceive the same events from a different worldview, as by their own innate design. There are a gazillion reasons that a "mainstream" view is valid, too, and much of the beneficial social structures we all rely upon hinge upon this.
This is why it's key for us to remember, as per a key point in this movie: All 6 billion people on the planet do not need to hear this message. (or any other similar message!) Only those with ears to hear need hear it, and those will find their own way to internalize the message, and "translate" it to those around them. For the same reason, when I speak on this board, I'm speaking for those who are naturally equipped to understand.
I find that the movie is generally accurate in it's gist, even though there are some inaccuracies of perception contained within, imo. What I refer to are parts where the creators project into the "future" and tell us what will happen. The future doesn't yet exist, so to extrapolate, based on current happenings is guesswork. Therefore presenting such guesswork as direct statements without qualification, I consider factually inaccurate and instead to be personal/group opinion. Further, such guesswork hinges on a worldview that is coloured by fear. Fear distorts perception, and thereby any such claim is based on a foundation of sand. At the same time, it seems to me they are doing this in order to meet a certain type of intellectual framework - that of their intended audience. By meeting these people where they are in awareness, they are more able to transmit information. and therefore it will work for them in getting their message across as intended. By seguing to the empowering aspects at the end, they direct those with a fear-based perspective toward a better and more importantly realistic way, beyond the false programming of our lives, which importantly and prominantly features fear and lack as hallmarks. In that sense, they do a good job.
In human developmental stages that are charted to date, the highest levels of human consciousness known - and the only ones that are truly realistic/accurate, are those wherein the individual has learned to access wholebrained functions, as this movie advocates. By integrating wholebrain function, fear no longer distorts what we see and subsequently create, and therefore we have freedom, peace, and instead we have our powerful potential at our fingertips in each moment.
Unfortunately some people will be hooked by the fear of this movie, and not buy into the solution, and therefore, fear will be perpetuated, which fuels the cycles of fear/distortion/problems. Such is the fallout of justifying the unjustifiable: using fear/fallacy (false premise) in order to create change.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
I see what you are saying in the sense that it is working on our fear because that's true it is, but what if it did happen, what then? Why should people not try to resist it? what would we gain from that stance?
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
See.
I think its easy to misinterpret the final segment of the movie.
Obviously to start, i repsectfuly disagree with Angelica.
Her position is that the first 2\3rds of the movie is basicaly ficiton to draw in the intended audience (conspiracy nuts), and that the final 1\3rd is the part about "let it go, and learn to love".
I disagree, both with the assessment of the first 2\3rds, and with the analysis of what the final segment is suggesting.
First, I don't think these people would go through with all the trouble of documenting all of this "conspiracy" stuff in the first 2 hours, simply to "draw in an audience".
Second, its silly to even suggest that they would bother to "make up" any\some\most of it. I mean, that information was all REAL. Where Angelica IS right, is that the movies interpretation of just what motive is behind all of these REAL treaties\legal frameworks\regulatiosn being drafted by UN agencies etc ... the interpretation of the motives behind that, and the end result of such regulations IS in fact just that: interpretation\guess work. However, it doesn't make it bunk or false. It just means that no one knows the future. But its not THAT hard to see where such policies would take us. You require every cow in the world to be injected with growth hormones and Monsanto patented genetic manipulations ... you are probably going to
a. screw up the food supply
b. place such financialy restrictive measures on producers that food production will fall below a level satisfactory to feed a growing population (most of which is in poverty).
Second,
i vehemenently disagree with the interpretation, "just learn to love, LET IT HAPPEN, and LET GO."
That is CLEARLY not what the film makers intended, or they would NOT have INCLUDED the scene where they talk at length about group think, and not being a follower, and if you do become a leader, you should be teaching your followers to LEAD.
There is a message of PROACTIVE RESPONSE in there. It is not at the forefront though, that is for sure. And why is that? Probably because the most important part of the movie IS the message at the end, which, as I interpret it is thus:
In order to make any change in the world, you first have to be that change. [and that part is explicit, spelled out] But also, the amount of negative emotion created by the first 2\3rds of the movie ... all the conspiracy stuff ... which i firmly believe the movie makers believe is REAL ... all that stuff has a tendency to create extremely negative FEAR based emotions which, as it so happens, tends to STOP people from feeling empowered. "Oh shit. We're fucked. All this bad stuff is gonna happen. I'm so affraid. We are helpless. We can't do anything. I HATE THIS. THIS SUCKS. FUCK THIS. FUCK THAT. GODDAMNIT."
That is the attitude\emotional mindset often created from such horrible realisations about the world. However and therefore, what this movie chose to focus on primarily at the end was not what specific things can be done to countervail the NWO, but more importantly what internal mental focus and emotional mindset must be attuned to by any willing participants in change. And they are right. If you want to make a difference you must stay positive, radiate love, and think constructively and with a "whole brain", as Angelica points out.
But i do NOT think the message was intended to be, "Just lie down and accept this awful fate, because you know what man? Peace and LOVE is like ... all that matters, man."
If I opened it now would you not understand?