Jesus Christ! THIS is HOW BAD they want him to GO AWAY!

DriftingByTheStorm

One of the greatest fundraising feats in history, and THIS is what he gets in the media:

ABC Absolutely RIPPING in to him, WHAT THE FUCK? Does this sound balanced and unbiased to you? They are SLAMMING him!

And then you have Wolf Blitzer:
More Bullshit

Listen to the way and what they ask.
They demean him by bringing up votes vs. money.
They talk about the "character" of his supporters.
They immediately latch on the "lunacy" of Nov 5th
They avoid substance and try to peg him as some sort of sensational loon.
ABC goes so far as to pick the most "at heart" programs -- education and energy -- look i'm not saying that isn't accurate but of ALL the things they pick the ones least representative of what he is about and most at dearness to the heart ... ABC even stops him dead in his tracks on Social Security not even letting him talk about War votes and forcing him to the present to hopefuly get him to either not have an answer or condemn himself by saying "cut benefits" but he doesnt ...

hell Ron Paul had a substantive pertinent and EXCEPTIONAL answer to EVERY question, but all the average viewer will take in is that the media was skewering him, and asking really tough questions so therefore he must be some dodgey idiot and of questionable candicacy.

Meanwhile the truth is the guy has more HONEST support from REAL people than any other goddamn person in the campaign.

WTF!

spiral out

He's not controled by the puppet master and i can't see him winning even if he did get enough votes.

My3rdEye

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

One of the greatest fundraising feats in history, and THIS is what he gets in the media:

ABC Absolutely RIPPING in to him, WHAT THE FUCK? Does this sound balanced and unbiased to you? They are SLAMMING him!

And then you have Wolf Blitzer:
More Bullshit

Listen to the way and what they ask.
They demean him by bringing up votes vs. money.
They talk about the "character" of his supporters.
They immediately latch on the "lunacy" of Nov 5th
They avoid substance and try to peg him as some sort of sensational loon.
ABC goes so far as to pick the most "at heart" programs -- education and energy -- look i'm not saying that isn't accurate but of ALL the things they pick the ones least representative of what he is about and most at dearness to the heart ... ABC even stops him dead in his tracks on Social Security not even letting him talk about War votes and forcing him to the present to hopefuly get him to either not have an answer or condemn himself by saying "cut benefits" but he doesnt ...

hell Ron Paul had a substantive pertinent and EXCEPTIONAL answer to EVERY question, but all the average viewer will take in is that the media was skewering him, and asking really tough questions so therefore he must be some dodgey idiot and of questionable candicacy.

Meanwhile the truth is the guy has more HONEST support from REAL people than any other goddamn person in the campaign.

WTF!

Actually I didn't think that was all that bad. The good thing is people are really starting to talk about him and he really does carry a sound message. If more people just hear his name the better chance there is of them looking at his message and seeing that he has some very strong ideas. Ideas that can help the average Joe.

It's all good. Just keep talking about him.

Peace

OutOfBreath

What are you talking about? They asked him some critical questions about what he would actually do, given the restraints that exist. And generally just asked him what he thought of a lot of things and let him talk. I dont see how this puts Paul in any bad light at all. He's a politician getting asked questions about his stances, and a few of them a bit critical. He got broken off once, which may have been a bit rude, but he was allowed to elaborate afterwards.

I think you are way over-sensitive.

Peace
Dan

jlew24asu

OutOfBreath wrote:

I think you are way over-sensitive.

Peace
Dan

and thats an understatment. driftin chill out.

farfromglorified

This was a great interview, and Ron handled himself very well.

OutOfBreath

farfromglorified wrote:

This was a great interview, and Ron handled himself very well.

That's what I thought too. Which is why I dont understand dbts's rage here.

Peace
Dan

farfromglorified

OutOfBreath wrote:

That's what I thought too. Which is why I dont understand dbts's rage here.

I don't really get it either. Certainly the MSM can marginalize Paul in their coverage of the campaign and also sometimes do a disservice to his supporters and his positions in their coverage of him personally, but I don't think this is anything unique or exceptionally noteworthly. Ron Paul and his supporters (myself included) represent a very eccentric and foreign niche relative to mainstream America. It's only natural that others approach the issue with skepticism and tough questions.

Ron Paul and his supporters have to be ready for this skepticism and hard line of questioning. And they need to respond with patience and confident, complete answers. Ron did a great job of that in this interview. Breaking down flawed and intrenched thinking is long, hard work. But it's not something that one should ever be afraid of.

DriftingByTheStorm

Asking tough questions is one thing.

My problem is that

a. This was the ONLY coverage he got in the TV News for a historic fundraising day, and it tried desperately to avoid focusing that coverage on the momementum that this feat implied.

b. EVERY thing they said, on ABC particularly, was loaded. They slandered his fans, they insinuated that no republicans would vote for him, tried to make him sound unappealing to republicans, asked him a connotary question about the Guy Fawkes Day thing, SAID HE WASNT "ALLOWED" IN TO THE LAST DEBATE -- which is just absolutely false, ridiculous, and stupid (was there some debate after Fox??!?!!?), and then tried this whole "most of us are pigs at the trough" to make americans think he is going to rob them of their "entitlements".

Look.
The interview wasn't O'riely,
but the point is it was the ONLY coverage he received, and every single thing they asked him seemed a bit loaded, and the questions were asked with these telling smirks, and NONE of it was "positive" ... go back and watch ABC again, think about the intent of every question asked ... it isn't fluff, and it isn't "unbiased" either ...

DriftingByTheStorm

Lets see how THIS goes:

Dr. Paul will be interviewed by Wolf Blitzer on CNN's The Situation Room today at 4:10 pm ET. The interview will also be replayed later today during the 6:00 pm ET broadcast.
(11/8/07)

drew0

Stop acting like Ron Paul is being treated unfairly in comparison to other candidates. Please, for your own good.

You know, besides supporting policies that would run this country deep into the ground, I might actually consider supporting Ron Paul. However, his over-sensitive, over-vocal, spamming supporters drive me so insane that I hope he drops out of the race tomorrow.

Don't take any offense, but you do have to realize how annoying his campaign is.

sweetpotato

drew0 wrote:

Stop acting like Ron Paul is being treated unfairly in comparison to other candidates. Please, for your own good.

You know, besides supporting policies that would run this country deep into the ground, I might actually consider supporting Ron Paul. However, his over-sensitive, over-vocal, spamming supporters drive me so insane that I hope he drops out of the race tomorrow.

Don't take any offense, but you do have to realize how annoying his campaign is.

not to mention the 5,412 threads devoted to him here in the pit. :rolleyes:

floyd1975

drew0 wrote:

Stop acting like Ron Paul is being treated unfairly in comparison to other candidates. Please, for your own good.

You know, besides supporting policies that would run this country deep into the ground, I might actually consider supporting Ron Paul. However, his over-sensitive, over-vocal, spamming supporters drive me so insane that I hope he drops out of the race tomorrow.

Don't take any offense, but you do have to realize how annoying his campaign is.

I actually agree with a lot of what Ron Paul says. I also agree with your first line here. The persecution complex of the Ron Paul volunteers and bloggers has played right into the stereotypes that they complain about.

If you look back a couple of months on here, they had a youtube video showing that Myspace was fully against Congressman Paul. It turned out to be some guy not knowing what he was doing, but somehow it proved a conspiracy against their candidate nonetheless.

I used to publicly support Congressman Paul. Now I fear being lumped in with the rabid supporters who have done nothing but hurt his public image.

DriftingByTheStorm

floyd1975 wrote:

If you look back a couple of months on here, they had a youtube video showing that Myspace was fully against Congressman Paul. It turned out to be some guy not knowing what he was doing

actualy it turned out that the guy had linked to a prisonplanet.com video of ron paul, and a myspace moderator admited that prisonplanet.com was on their permanent spam ban list because the website pops up so much in bulletins on myspace that they "had to" blacklist it or it may affect their systems.

haha.

Anyway,
i'd like to say ron paul is being treated fairly in the press, but when you have commentators LAUGHING AT HIM like they did multiple times in the first fox debate -- here at 1:52 and 3:43 and 6:40 etc etc etc EVERYTIME! or "debunking" his wins in their own goddamn polls ... or questions like this orthe horrible slander job Soledad tried to pull off on him ... the last two links i gave on his fundraising feat ...

look it's not all horrible coverage, but A LOT of it is.

Show me some video of Giuliani getting slandered on mainstream media, or getting laughed at in a debate, or being asked about the character of his constituents, or the validity of his positions.

How many other candidates have recieve that kind of negativity?

Best I can tell, only Dennis K, for seeing aliens, and hes just about in the same damn boat with ron paul any how!

that don't say much!

callen

drew0 wrote:

Stop acting like Ron Paul is being treated unfairly in comparison to other candidates. Please, for your own good.

You know, besides supporting policies that would run this country deep into the ground, I might actually consider supporting Ron Paul. However, his over-sensitive, over-vocal, spamming supporters drive me so insane that I hope he drops out of the race tomorrow.

Don't take any offense, but you do have to realize how annoying his campaign is.

so you won't support a candidate...not because you disagree with his policies but because you don't agree with some of his supporters???

callen

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

actualy it turned out that the guy had linked to a prisonplanet.com video of ron paul, and a myspace moderator admited that prisonplanet.com was on their permanent spam ban list because the website pops up so much in bulletins on myspace that they "had to" blacklist it or it may affect their systems.

haha.

Anyway,
i'd like to say ron paul is being treated fairly in the press, but when you have commentators LAUGHING AT HIM like they did multiple times in the first fox debate -- here at 1:52 and 3:43 and 6:40 etc etc etc EVERYTIME! or "debunking" his wins in their own goddamn polls ... or questions like this orthe horrible slander job Soledad tried to pull off on him ... the last two links i gave on his fundraising feat ...

look it's not all horrible coverage, but A LOT of it is.

Show me some video of Giuliani getting slandered on mainstream media, or getting laughed at in a debate, or being asked about the character of his constituents, or the validity of his positions.

How many other candidates have recieve that kind of negativity?

Best I can tell, only Dennis K, for seeing aliens, and hes just about in the same damn boat with ron paul any how!

that don't say much!

driftin:

I'm with you on this...Ron gets the shaft...course it could be that he doesn't follow the rules....and the media doesn't like that....you keep it up.

Peace

Drowned Out

Here's some fair cnn coverage about his fundraising...Cafferty

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z7vQDCtjQc

The email comments at the end are interesting in relation to this thread...they didn't have a single person in their sample that felt he was getting enough coverage. Soooo....does this mean that cnn is being fair, by showing only pro RP comments...that cofirm that they aren't giving him fair coverage? tricky tricky

DriftingByTheStorm

Drowned Out wrote:

Here's some fair cnn coverage about his fundraising...Cafferty

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z7vQDCtjQc

rofl.
The "Ron, Paul, George, or Ringo." capstone is classic.

I like this piece.
I would actually like to spam it all over the place.

The most honest reporting i've seen in a while.
He even makes a more postive spin on his fiscal positions -- choosing "realistic focus on the national debt" to single out over the more controversial "abolish the IRS".

Oh hey:
this is finaly up, its from this morning (Thursday Nov 8):
Ron Paul Straight Up Schools Bernake And The Sleepers -- ON THE JOB IN WASHINGTON while on campaign !!??!! WHAT !?!

!! !!

DriftingByTheStorm

This is "Fairness"

NY Post Leaves Ron Paul Out Of Poll Results -- click on the "next" button on the widget.

Here is the ORIGINAL poll which they [ab]used!

Huh?

Rupert Murdoch at work again?
Fox, NY Post, his little Aussie rag a few months ago...
sheesh.

DriftingByTheStorm

-.-

Drowned Out

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

This is "Fairness"

NY Post Leaves Ron Paul Out Of Poll Results -- click on the "next" button on the widget.

Here is the ORIGINAL poll which they [ab]used!

Huh?

Rupert Murdoch at work again?
Fox, NY Post, his little Aussie rag a few months ago...
sheesh.

that is sickening, that the first time I've seen his actual RESULTS left out...I thought they usually just leave his name off the ballot....how can anyone argue that he IS getting fair coverage? That's so blatant!