Jewish Leaders Promise The Absoulte Anihilation of "Palestine"
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Byrnzie did such a great job on this, it deserves a new thread.
For those of you that think Amahdinejad is bad, check out these quotes from Jewish leaders over the decades.
They are enough to make your stomach ill.
For those of you that think Amahdinejad is bad, check out these quotes from Jewish leaders over the decades.
They are enough to make your stomach ill.
Byrnzie wrote:"[The Palestinians] are beasts walking on two legs."
-- Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the 'Beasts,"' New Statesman, June 25, 1982.
"The Partition of Palestine is illegal. It will never be recognized .... Jerusalem was and will for ever be our capital. Eretz Israel will be restored to the people of Israel. All of it. And for Ever."
-- Menachem Begin, the day after the U.N. vote to partition Palestine.
"The settlement of the Land of Israel is the essence of Zionism. Without settlement, we will not fulfill Zionism. It's that simple."
-- Yitzhak Shamir, Maariv, 02/21/1997.
"(The Palestinians) would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls."
-- Isreali Prime Minister (at the time) Yitzhak Shamir in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988
"Israel should have exploited the repression of the demonstrations in China, when world attention focused on that country, to carry out mass expulsions among the Arabs of the territories."
-- Benyamin Netanyahu, then Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister, former Prime Minister of Israel, speaking to students at Bar Ilan University, from the Israeli journal Hotam, November 24, 1989.
"It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism, colonialization, or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands."
-- Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998.
"Everybody has to move, run and grab as many (Palestinian) hilltops as they can to enlarge the (Jewish) settlements because everything we take now will stay ours...Everything we don't grab will go to them."
-- Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of the Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, Nov. 15, 1998.
"Israel may have the right to put others on trial, but certainly no one has the right to put the Jewish people and the State of Israel on trial."
-- Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 25 March, 2001 quoted in BBC News Online
“The only solution is Eretz Israel [Greater Israel], or at least Western Eretz Israel [all the land west of Jordan River], without Arabs. There is no room for compromise on this point … We must not leave a single village, not a single tribe.”
Joseph Weitz, Director of the Jewish National Fund, the Zionist agency charged with acquiring Palestinian land, Circa 194. Machover Israca, January 5, 1973 p.2
“The present map of Palestine was drawn by the British mandate. The Jewish people have another map which our youth and adults should strive to fulfill — From the Nile to the Euphrates.”
Ben Gurion, 1973
“We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population.”
Israel Koenig, “The Koenig Memorandum” in 1980
“When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do about it will be to scurry around like drugged cockroaches in a bottle.”
Raphael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defence Forces, New York Times, 14 April 1983
“We declare openly that the Arabs have no right to settle on even one centimeter of Eretz Israel… Force is all they do or ever will understand. We shall use the ultimate force until the Palestinians come crawling to us on all fours.”
Rafael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defense Forces – Gad Becker, Yediot Ahronot 13 April 1983, New York Times 14 April 1983
“We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live here as slaves.”
Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983
“There is a huge gap between us (Jews) and our enemies? Not just in ability but in morality, culture, sanctity of life, and conscience. They are our neighbors here, but it seems as if at a distance of a few hundred meters away, there are people who do not belong to our continent, to our world, but actually belong to a different galaxy.”
Israeli president Moshe Katsav. The Jerusalem Post, May 10, 2001
“Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don’t worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it.”
Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio
Ze'ev Jabotinsky stated in a letter to one of his Revisionist colleagues in the United States dated November 1939:
"We Jews, thank God, have nothing to do with the East. . . . The Islamic soul must be broomed out of Eretz-Yisrael. . . . [Muslims are] yelling rabble dressed up in gaudy, savage rags."
(Expulsion Of The Palestinians, p. 29)
Israel Zangwill wrote in an article published in "Voice Of Jerusalem" in 1920, that Palestinians' cultural "backwardness" was a justification for the removal of the population or "transfer". He stated:
"We cannot allow the Arabs to block so valuable a piece of historic reconstruction ..... And therefore we must generally persuade them to 'trek.' After all, they have all Arabia with its million square miles .... There is no particular reason for the Arabs to cling to these few kilometers. 'To fold their tents and silently steal away' is their proverbial habit: let them exemplify it now." (Expulsion Of The Palestinians, p. 14, and Righteous Victims, p. 140)
Zionist leader Moshe Smilansky said in 1914:
"We must not forget that we are dealing here with a semi-savage people, which has extremely primitive concepts. And this is his nature: If he senses in you power- he will submit and will hide his hatred for you. And if he senses weakness- he will dominate you .... Moreover ... owing to the many tourists and urban Christians, there developed among the Arabs base values which are not common other primitive people ... to lie, to cheat, to harbor grave [unfounded] suspicions and to tell tales.... and a hidden hatred for the Jews. These Semites- they are anti-Semites." (Righteous Victims, p. 43)
http://www.muslimbrotherhood.co.uk/Home.asp?zPage=Systems&System=PressR&Press=Show&Lang=E&ID=5325
'Knesset member Effie Eitam of the National-Union-National Religious Party (NPR) told Israeli Army Radio (Gal Tzahal) that Israel’s Arab citizens (nearly 25% of the population) were a fifth column, saying that the state ought to “encourage” Arabs to leave.
“Look, in the wake of this war, the people of Israel need to begin to say the truth. The deceptive myths must end. The myth that we can abandon territory without it becoming a launching ground for attacks on us and the myth that this struggle is over the outcome of the 1967 war.
“we therefore must be honest with ourselves-if we can’t give the land away and we can’t keep the land with this hostile nation upon it, we must encourage them to leave.”
Eitam said he discussed his ideas with US Attorney General John Ashcroft who, Eitam said, was very receptive to the idea.
“The assertion that the world will not allow transfer to occur is another deception.”
The poll showed that Likud leader Benyamin Netanyahu, who is opposed to the creation of a Palestinian state, had a an approval rate of 58%.
Netanyahu had suggested on several occasions that Israel should take every conceivable measure to lower the birth rate of non-Jews in Israel.
Last year, he boasted that cuts in social benefits to Israel’s Arab citizens were forcing Arab families to have fewer children.
Netanyahu has also been trying to lump the Palestinian plight and the decades-old Israeli occupation of the Palestinian homeland with the so-called “clash of civilizations” between Islam and the West.'
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=5195
'Extremist rabbi Yousef Falay, who dwells at the Yitzhar settlement on illegally seized Palestinian land in the northern part of the West Bank, wrote an article in a Zionist magazine under the title "Ways of War", in which he called for the killing of all Palestinian males refusing to flee their country, describing his idea as the practical way to ensure the non-existence of the Palestinian race.
"We have to make sure that no Palestinian individual remains under our occupation. If they (Palestinians) escape then it is good; but if anyone of them remains, then he should be exterminated", the fanatic rabbi added in his article...
The Kach movement recognizes the 'transfer' of 750,000 Palestinians that took place in 1948 in order for the state of Israel to be created on their land, but argues on their website that this 'transfer' was incomplete, and that all Palestinians must be sent away, or killed, in order for Israel to remain a 'Jewish state'. Their platform reads, "In a genuinely 'JEWISH State', how can an Arab be an equal when that State has an Independence Day celebrating his defeat. Its flag isn't that of its people. He isn't trusted to serve in the army. His cousin born in Haifa [sic] and fled during the 1948 War of Independence cannot return... yet any Jew who never lived there before is welcomed with open arms. In short, Israel is his enemy's country, not his. So how can an Arab truly be a loyal citizen in a Jewish State? Simply, they cannot, and they must go!"
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
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If our 'friends' say such things then we pay no attention.
Clearly.
anticipating this thread on 2nd page by COB today, drowned by a flood of pro-obama anti-hillary bullshit.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
and still jonesing for another show....
"the waiting drove me mad..."
Watch the nightly news and drink a beer...
Like I could even change the world, yeah right..."
Why does it bother you?
its a nice change of pace from the "i want to suck obama's cock" threads, though.
:cool:
If I opened it now would you not understand?
See my "Psychopaths rule the world" thread.
They get a rush of the most sickest things imaginable. The sicker it gets, the bigger their buzz.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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and still jonesing for another show....
"the waiting drove me mad..."
"When the Jews return to Zion/ And a comet rips the sky / And the Holy Roman Empire rises, / Then You and I must die. / From the eternal sea he rises, / Creating armies on either shore, / Turning man against his brother / 'Til man exists no more."
It's funny how real life imitates fiction more often then we realize.
One could say it's THE root cause of all things going on in the world right now affecting people the most.
We're all hunting the "terrorists" while our rights are continually stripped from us....meanwhile everyone is trying to figure out who the real terrorists are.
Israel is smack dab in the middle making nukes refusing to sign the non proliferation agreement, and claiming everyone is a terrorist, and that Iran is now making nukes so it needs to be attacked, and that it wants to destroy Israel, to the point the US is now fully complicit and dragged in.
Israel wants the spotlight....they got it in spades.
well see what scatters from the light.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Yes... you are right... the root cause of all the worlds issues is Israel...
i cant even respond to that... i dont want to be obscene....
and still jonesing for another show....
"the waiting drove me mad..."
I never meant the cause per se, just the focal point.
The cause is yet to be seen. And that it will be I'm sure.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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( o.O)
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The method is madness.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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( o.O)
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What is said today means more now, but I agree, some terrible things said and thought (and believed) by both sides of this argument.
Israel has the right to make those quoted remarks, because we know too well that enough remarks have been made against Israel. Please, quit acting like the deflowered virgin when people make remarks against Israel because your just as stained as everyone else.
You seem to forget that Israel wasn't always the cocky, I can handle myself little nation it has become.
You seem to forget that U.S. military backing has sustained Israel's existence for many years.
You seem to forget that there were over 72 million people that died in WWII.. Minus 6 million, that's a lot people that died in conjunction with Hitler's need for power and the final solution, that gets overlooked because WWII has become Israel's Holocaust event.
You seem to forget that Israel is looked upon as the killer of Jesus, your purpose for being placed in the Middle East could have been in hopes that you would kill each other off and the US and UK end up with the oil and the land minus the jews and the arabs.
You seem to forget once the U.S. establishes permanent bases in Iraq, Israel becomes a take or leave option especially in politics, kind of like Pakistan. Plus, oil companies have no religion, neither does Blackwater.
Why did what hitler do bother non Jews?
Because there are too many people in the world who think like you, and it irritates me.
I find blatant hypocrisy and ignorance bothersome.
Way to be apathetic. Fucking hell.....
I'm not defending the qoutes made here, but most seem old.
If they are still saying these things, then by all means, feel animosity towards them.
There are plenty of quotes there from Ariel Sharon which he spoke within the past ten years.
I'm sure I could find plenty more from the past few years if I looked. I doubt it'd be too difficult. Then again, how about looking yourself? It doesn't involve much effort.
The whole point in my posting those quotes wasn't to make anyone feel animosity towards the Zionists as much as to point out the hypocrisy and double standards with regards to the amount of attention on the words of Irans leader.
As for finding some more recent quotes - despite some of them being very recent - why not look yourself? You have a computer, right?
Israeli minister warns of Holocaust for Gaza if violence continues
RORY McCARTHY
Guardian, 1 March 2008
http://www.fromoccupiedpalestine.org/node/1750
Israel's deputy defence minister yesterday warned his country was close to launching a huge military operation in Gaza and said Palestinians would bring on themselves a "bigger shoah," using the Hebrew word usually reserved for the Holocaust.
The choice of vocabulary from Matan Vilnai, an often outspoken former army general, was unusually grave - the word is not normally used for anything other than the Nazi Holocaust of the Jews.
Vilnai was speaking about his government's plans to tackle the continued firing of makeshift rockets, known as Qassams, from Gaza.
"The more Qassam fire intensifies and the rockets reach a longer range, they will bring upon themselves a bigger shoah because we will use all our might to defend ourselves," he said, in a telephone interview with army radio yesterday morning...'
"One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." – Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994 in N.Y. Times, Feb. 28, 1994, p. 1.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/975574.html
Netanyahu says 9/11 terror attacks good for Israel
By Haaretz Service and Reuters
16/04/2008
The Israeli newspaper Ma'ariv on Wednesday reported that Likud leader Benjamin Netanyahu told an audience at Bar Ilan university that the September 11, 2001 terror attacks had been beneficial for Israel.
"We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq" - Benjamin Netanyahu 16/04/2008
And on a slightly different subject:
Shas MK blames gays for recent earthquakes in the region
By Shahar Ilan, Haaretz Correspondent, and The Associated Press
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/956334.html
Shas MK Shlomo Benizri blamed gays Wednesday for the earthquakes that have shaken the region in recent months, telling a Knesset plenum debate on local authorities' earthquake preparedness that government action on homosexuality would do much to prevent the tremors.
Benizri said the government should not make do with reinforcing buildings, but should instead pass less legislation that encourages homosexuality and other "perversions like adoptions by lesbian couples."
The ultra-Orthodox party MK invoked passages from the Talmud and the Gemarrah to support his claims.
"Why do earthquakes happen?" said Benizri. "One of the reasons is the things to which the Knesset gives legitimacy, to sodomy."
"A cost-effective way of averting earthquake damage," he added, "would be to stop passing legislation on how to encourage homosexual activity in the State of Israel, which anyways causes earthquakes."
ANYwhoo, these are called "soundbites" for a reason. they're not the whole statement/speech/story. i agree that the individual statements themselves are ugly, but let's not forget the context that they were made in- all of israel's neighbors wish them ill. some have called for their total annilhilation. they have centuries- millenia even- of history of oppression and hatred directed towards them. they're a scrappy bunch, fighting for survival against the odds. it's too easy- and intellectually lazy- to take their rhetoric and some of their leaders' hyperbolic statements and assume that that is the whole story. even you guys seem brighter that that.
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
Its seems like everything that Israel does is blamed on Israel's neighbors? Maybe if they would they take accountability for their actions things would be different.
I'm amazed that you can produce the above post and use the words 'intellectually lazy'.
You believe that Israel is justified in pursuing genocide/ethnic cleansing against the Palestinian people because Israel's neighbours 'wish them ill'?
What Israel's neighbours may or may not have said about Israel is completely irrelevant. Instead of focusing on what people say, how about focusing on what is actually taking place?
Israel's neighbours aren't wiping Israel off the map.
Israel is wiping the Palestinians off the map.
Do you see the difference?
No, I think it is just as controversial but it just blows my mind that everytime Amahdinejad says something like this against Israel a few people on here defend him and say, "No, that isn't what he meant. You are taking it out of context."
It's like some of you think he can do nothing wrong.
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I doubt that many people in the West know the first thing about Amahdinejad, or Iran for that matter. The fact is, who has Iran attacked in our lifetimes? No one.
Israel's leaders, on the other hand, have been stating clearly for over a hundred years that they want to establish a Jews only sovereign state in Palestine, and have often used some pretty colourful language to get their intentions understood. And not only have they been saying it, but they've been doing it.
I've heard plenty of comments from both sides of this issue to be disgusted with both sides...perhaps you missed the main point of my post.
I just thought it was interesting to use quotes from 90 years ago and 25 years ago to compare to today specifically, I'm sure if you go back that far you will also still find some disgusting remarks made by BOTH sides...it would take you too much effort either.