Are We Waging "War" On Iran? Oil Bourse & Cables Cut = Fishy Shit

DriftingByTheStorm

Just curious.

Trying to add it all up over here,

Iran planning to take their Bourse live between the 1st and 11th of Februrary.

Coincidentaly ALL INTERNET TO IRAN (100%) WAS CUT BY CABLE on the 30th of January.

THREE, possibly FOUR, SEPERATE CABLES were cut on the sea bed ...

these were cables connecting Iran and eastern europe and ASIA.

Iran had 100% internet outages along with Egypt.

Funny.
If Iran wanted to sell Oil in Euros (which they DO), CHINA would probably be a big buyer ... and former soviet states (ie. eastern europe)

And amazingly, NO NEWS ON WHAT HAPPENED.

Best guess? An anchor?
3 or 4 cables in SEPERATE LOCATIONS.

Hmm

WTF?

MasterFramer

Seal Team of course...

DriftingByTheStorm

MasterFramer wrote:

Seal Team of course...

Yeah i had no idea what to think before i read about the bourse going live last night.

In FACT, i actualy thought it may have been a plot AGAINST the US, by cutting our lines to the Middle East, hindering our banking and oil communications ...
but THEN i read 100% blackout in IRAN ...
and THEN i read about the oil bourse going live ...

and THAT made me realize this was in all likely hood perpetrated BY the United States AGAINST Iran.

VERY VERY fishy shit.

And a LOT of blowback potential here.
A LOT.

macgyver06

im not 100 % sure about barack...but if hillary is elected she will be pushed to go to war with iran..

and if you dont think this is accurate well than...all i can say is do some research and only time will tell..


i think she would make a good president... but war with iran is not out of the question with her.

theroachman

It is very suspicious

What are the odds of up to 5 cables being cut like this?

The thing is there are still phone / satellite connections. Though slower and more limited in Iran they still exist. So I really do not understand why someone would think this would hurt Iran. The country is not run based on the internet.

Now if someone did that to North America or say Western Europe. That might cause some headaches

DriftingByTheStorm

theroachman wrote:

It is very suspicious

What are the odds of up to 5 cables being cut like this?

The thing is there are still phone / satellite connections. Though slower and more limited in Iran they still exist. So I really do not understand why someone would think this would hurt Iran. The country is not run based on the internet.

Now if someone did that to North America or say Western Europe. That might cause some headaches

To effectively trade oil, you need lots of internet connections!

They have the potential to be the ONLY player in the oil market offering oil for sale in EUROS and other currencies and NOT THE DOLLAR.

ALL other players are selling on DOLLARS only.

Any idea how much of a crowd that could attract in the face of all the weakness in the dollar?

Without those cables, Iran will have a problem bringing that trading platform online this week, as planned.

:sigh:

MasterFramer

Drifting I was under the impression that Iran had started the switch already... to euros... months ago...

Im still here

MasterFramer wrote:

Seal Team of course...

yup

Im still here

macgyver06 wrote:

im not 100 % sure about barack...but if hillary is elected she will be pushed to go to war with iran..

and if you dont think this is accurate well than...all i can say is do some research and only time will tell..


i think she would make a good president... but war with iran is not out of the question with her.

but Obama voted "present" on funding the War.......

that's approving of the War without sayin it

kinda lame if you ask me

DriftingByTheStorm

MasterFramer wrote:

Drifting I was under the impression that Iran had started the switch already... to euros... months ago...

MF,

SO WAS I!

But you know what?
Its really fucking hard to get the story straight when "the story" is ONE GODDAMN SOURCE FROM RUSSIA.

There is 100% TOTAL news blackout on coverage of the Iranian oil bourse situation.

So how the hell are we to know ANYTHING?

Again, the only source on the Bourse starting this week is from within Iran itself (which i have NO reason to disbelieve) ... but NO OTHER COVERAGE.

Nearly the same with the cables being cut.
Certainly not on the TV ... very few internet sources of heft.

Best i can figure the announcement out of russia a month ago was preemptive to send notice "we ARE going off the dollar" ... and this weeks anouncement is "its HE-RE!"
:rolleyes:

theroachman

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

To effectively trade oil, you need lots of internet connections!

They have the potential to be the ONLY player in the oil market offering oil for sale in EUROS and other currencies and NOT THE DOLLAR.

ALL other players are selling on DOLLARS only.

Any idea how much of a crowd that could attract in the face of all the weakness in the dollar?

Without those cables, Iran will have a problem bringing that trading platform online this week, as planned.

:sigh:

That being said. What does that do for the price of Oil? It has been droping a bit lattly and if Iran suddenly can not trade and sell its oil that drops the world supply increassing the cost down the line. Hmm?

DriftingByTheStorm

theroachman wrote:

That being said. What does that do for the price of Oil? It has been droping a bit lattly and if Iran suddenly can not trade and sell its oil that drops the world supply increassing the cost down the line. Hmm?

Near term oil prices are falling on economic concerns, which means fears of general slow downs come with fears of slowing oil deman.

As far as the relation to taking the Oil Bourse online, the only tangible direct affect i can peg that to have on the price of oil domesticaly is the inflationary one:

If major global players in the oil trade, think about China and Soviet states, stop using the USD to buy oil, that means they no longer need to secure dollars on the global market.

Those dollars end up stuck here in America, driving up the domestic currency supply dramaticaly.

Supply and demand would tell you, more money chasing the same amount of goods means goods cost more.

The direct affect of an Iranian oil for Euros program would be an all-pervasive one on the DOLLAR and prices in general ... not just oil.

But to answer the question, by virtue of the dollar going down, oil prices would go UP.

We shall see.
Jlew posted an article in my other oil bourse thread that tries to imply that some how "US sanctions" will prevent the Bourse from drawing any serious buyers.

But it fails to even clarify what it means by "US sanctions" ... the implication i take is that the US may threaten trade sanctions against nations that refuse to continue using the dollar to buy oil ... but i don't know ... the article didn't specify ... if we DID do that ... it would be retarded ... nearly an act of war ... and certainly an act of agression to threaten that on trade partners ...

...we will see.
I don't think there is much that will stop the world from seeking a source of oil that doesn't require holding on to massive quantities of the rapidly failing dollar.

:sigh:

my2hands

oh no, the sky is falling!

DriftingByTheStorm

my2hands wrote:

oh no, the sky is falling!

well the stock market just hit its head on a 2nd attempt at a rally (1st being yesterday) and still CRASHED down in post-noon trading.

We are about to break through the floor again here in 10 minutes.

Big move for the bears.

macgyver06

Im still here wrote:

but Obama voted "present" on funding the War.......

that's approving of the War without sayin it

kinda lame if you ask me

get a good person in the room and they will tell you

i would never vote to go to war...

ask them if they voted for bush or would vote for obama or hilllary and they will say yes....


which can only lead me to believe...

A. they're fucking idiots
B. they dont understand

Ebizzie

Maybe I'm just an idiot but....


Wouldn't China and other nations choosing to buy oil with Euros right now be the equivalent of an American choosing to take an extravagant trip to Europe right now? In other words, isn't this the absolute BEST time to be buying oil with dollars, due to its weakness, and the absolute WORST time to be doing so with Euros? Unless it's an even-steven deal where the current cost in dollars is translated to that same amount in euros which, even then, except out of spite for the dollar, I don't understand the advantages for any country except Iran? Drop some knowledge on me, please.

jlew24asu

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Best guess? An anchor?
3 or 4 cables in SEPERATE LOCATIONS.

Hmm

WTF?

is that true? separate locations? how far apart?

theroachman

jlew24asu wrote:

is that true? separate locations? how far apart?

First 2 cables were not cut by ships anchors. No ships in the area 6 hours eather side of the outage.

http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5hTi5wNwTD66nvWdTAQw20SaFI_GQ

Also Cable No. 4 went down as well but that was an issue with a power relay on shore

DriftingByTheStorm

theroachman wrote:

Also Cable No. 4 went down as well but that was an issue with a power relay on shore

Issues with a power relay on shore, huh?

What kind of "issue" are we talking about?
C4 to the face?
Jamming? Fried?

Give me a break.

This is the work of the United States and its own special brand of "terrorism". CIA, Navy Seals, it was someone on our side.

Why else would there be absolute radio silence on our end? No media coverage, perfect timing ...

Did you guys here CNN talking about the possibility of bombing Iran again tonight !??!

LET THE GAMES BEGIN!

Ebizzie

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Issues with a power relay on shore, huh?

What kind of "issue" are we talking about?
C4 to the face?
Jamming? Fried?

Give me a break.

This is the work of the United States and its own special brand of "terrorism". CIA, Navy Seals, it was someone on our side.

Why else would there be absolute radio silence on our end? No media coverage, perfect timing ...

Did you guys here CNN talking about the possibility of bombing Iran again tonight !??!

LET THE GAMES BEGIN!

Those cable cuts were on cnn.com's front page during each occurrence. I saw plenty of coverage elsewhere as well.

jlew24asu

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Issues with a power relay on shore, huh?

What kind of "issue" are we talking about?
C4 to the face?
Jamming? Fried?

Give me a break.

This is the work of the United States and its own special brand of "terrorism". CIA, Navy Seals, it was someone on our side.

Why else would there be absolute radio silence on our end? No media coverage, perfect timing ...

Did you guys here CNN talking about the possibility of bombing Iran again tonight !??!

LET THE GAMES BEGIN!

easy with the accusations already captain tin hat. I saw a ton of media coverage when it happened. and secondly, why would we have non-stop coverage? this didnt effect america...at all.