no. i don't think they are "flat out stupid".
Clearly Obama has yet to show any hints of starting a holocaust or anything of the sort.
I think the point is more that Hitler was a phenomenally captivating public speaker, who wooed the public with the force of his words. He heaped promises of a new Germany, and spoke of the need for a great new servitude to the country ...
... a lot of that DOES get invoked by Obama. Witness his recent Berlin speech. And that is where it makes sens.
The validity of the comparison also comes in the assumption by some (like me, maybe roland, some others) that Obama is probably largely full of shit (or possibly delusional, another fair comparison anyhow) and that his words are simply a crowd friendly mask that veils a darker force in waiting.
I don't think that Obama likely embodies much of the same personal vitriol and evil that Hitler did (and lets not forget, Hitler also was backed by a lot of "evil" american & international bankers, just like obama) ... but, it doesn't necessarily make much difference. I mean, if Obama ends up just being the friendly puppet we see dance around on stage while Hitler-esque men run amok behind him (witness his donations from all those banks) leading this country down dark paths ... that is equally if not MORE dangerous than having an overtly evil dictator up front.
If the people can be stupified by a smooth talker who can keep them distracted and blind by promising a grand idea here and there, all while the country is slowly bled to death and our rights are eviscerated ... that is certainly a dangerous path ... and it represents something that, while maybe not wholly akin to Hitler, is certainly not lacking in rough similarities.
Remember the arguments posed on this board by those that would defend Prescott Bush and his business relationship with the NAZIs by attempting to say that "Hitler didn't start out a raging evil madman. He was just a smooth talking national socialist politician with some strong ideas and an immense popularity, in the beginning."
Yeah.
Well.
Need i say more?
Fantastic post, Drifting. Thank you.
Walking can be a real trip
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"We've laid the groundwork. It's like planting the seeds. And next year, it's spring." - Nader
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Prepare for tending to your garden, America.
Thank you.
I just love that i got flamed repeatedly for posting links to a Hitler comparison AFTER i posted my (what i deam to be valid) rationale behind that comparsion. Clearly these people just skipped the explanation.
"in the future there must be no ranks or classes"
"a ONE people"
"We want to see ONE nation, and you must EDUCATE yourselves for it"
"WE WANT THIS PEOPLE TO BE PEACE LOVING"
"yet also to be courageous."
"You must be peaceable and courageous at the same time."
HOW CAN YOU NOT SEE THE COMPARISONS HERE?
Both Obama and Hitler are talking about UNITING PEOPLE, and STRIVING FOR PEACE, and EDUCATION, and THE IMPORTANCE OF WORKING HARD ... Obama "Americans and Europeans alike WILL BE REQUIRED TO DO MORE NOT LESS" ...
This shit is crazy similar.
That is my ONLY point in the comparison.
They are both INSANELY PERSUASIVE AND CAPTIVATING SPEAKERS.
And clearly Hitler sets a precedent for this type of talk to be DECEITFUL.
I am just saying BE WARY OF THE SMOOTH TALKER.
That is it.
The people on this board who, EVERY time they hear the word "hitler", start thinking ONLY of dead jews, camps, and genocide, are THEMSELVES the perverts.
You need to GO BACK, folks. Go back and understand HOW Hitler came to power, and understand WHAT HE SAID that made him so fucking attractive. HE WASN'T A RAVING LUNATIC in his speech. HE MADE A LOT OF SENSE.
He just flat out ignored most all of that, except the "obedience" and servitiude obviously, and just went on with plans to dominate the world, sack europe and devastate the jews, gypsies, feeble and anyone else who didn't fit with his new Germania.
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
The people on this board who, EVERY time they hear the word "hitler", start thinking ONLY of dead jews, camps, and genocide, are THEMSELVES the perverts.
I've never heard of such a brutal and shocking injustice that I cared so little about.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
8&sa=N&tab=wv&oi=property_suggestions&resnum=0&ct=property-revision&cd=1#]HERE IS A GREAT HITLER SPEECH[/url] TO WATCH. [it is a speech to the Hitler Youth]
"in the future there must be no ranks or classes"
"a ONE people"
"We want to see ONE nation, and you must EDUCATE yourselves for it"
"WE WANT THIS PEOPLE TO BE PEACE LOVING"
"yet also to be courageous."
"You must be peaceable and courageous at the same time."
HOW CAN YOU NOT SEE THE COMPARISONS HERE?
Both Obama and Hitler are talking about UNITING PEOPLE, and STRIVING FOR PEACE, and EDUCATION, and THE IMPORTANCE OF WORKING HARD ... Obama "Americans and Europeans alike WILL BE REQUIRED TO DO MORE NOT LESS" ...
This shit is crazy similar.
That is my ONLY point in the comparison.
They are both INSANELY PERSUASIVE AND CAPTIVATING SPEAKERS.
And clearly Hitler sets a precedent for this type of talk to be DECEITFUL.
I am just saying BE WARY OF THE SMOOTH TALKER.
That is it.
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with those words. They make perfect sense. The problem with Hitler IS the fact that he said them, and then proceeded to attempt genocide. Its really funny to me how you'll, out of one side of your face, trash Obama for support of ISRAEL, and then from the other side of your face compare him to Hitler who attempted to exterminate JEWS! Freaking hilarious.
Furthermore let's take a look at another fella who was pretty good with the words who had this to say:
"Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace
You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world
You may say that I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one"
Hmmmmmm.... Sounds amzingly similar to the Hitler quotes you posted when justifying your absurdist Obama/Hitler comparison.
Are you prepared to make the same ignorant comparison and post ridiculous images juxtaposing the likenessnes of Adolf Hitler and a certain peace loving Beatle?
HEIL JOHN LENNON!!
And if you are prepared to make such comparisons, i wonder how many posters in this forum will be willing to nod in unison at your profound observations. :rolleyes:
"When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
There is absolutely nothing wrong with those words. They make perfect sense. The problem with Hitler IS the fact that he said them, and then proceeded to attempt genocide.
No shit, shirlock.
THATS THE FUCKING POINT.
What the fuck do you think my explanation was about?
The problem with Obama is, we're still in the "his words make perfect sense stage", because HE IS NOT ELECTED YET.
All i'm saying is, "if you buy this shit, lock stock and barrel, just be prepared to find out that there could be some VERY UNPALATABLE TRUTHS to digest once the lying son of a bitch gets in to office."
I'M NOT FUCKING TALKING ABOUT DEAD JEWS, GODDAMNIT.
Get it through your skull, folks.
Everytime someone fucking brings up Hitler, all mental focus does NOT have to revert to "dead jews! dead jews! OMFG hes talking about the guy that KILLED JEWS!"
Give me a fucking break.
People need to lay of the PCP (politically correct pandemonium).
If you cant understand the importance of reconciling that just because someone talks smooth as shit about glorious and wonderful things, doesn't mean they can't turn around and say ... oh maybe ... KILL A BUNCH OF FUCKING JEWS ... then i don't know how to help you.
That is the point.
Obama, sure as shit, knows how to go off at the mouth like a smooth criminal.
It doesn't mean that once he's elected, he won't just continue the same fucked up policies that are ass raping this country until she bleeds red white and fucking blue down the toilet drain.
:cool:
and i'm fucking half jewish, and my entire dad's side of the family tree (baring my immediate relatives that escaped germany early) got wiped out thanks to Hitler AND HIS FINANCIAL BACKERS (the same fucking money that is in those same fucking banks that Obama is on the take from. LOOK IT UP) ... so don't give me any fucking shit about anti-semitism or paint me bad for talking trash about Obama and his "support for Israel". I know enough about history to not be a bumbling idiot over it. And i have enough personal connection to some of this to have done my homework.
BLIND SUPPORT FOR ANYONE IS FUCKING IDIOTIC
I don't give a fuck if it is some two-bit shill of a political whore,
a country, a movement, a rock singer, or paranoid talk show host.
Think for your fucking self, and learn how to separate truth from dogma.
:cool:
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
There we have it folks.
once again, the blind "hitler = DEAD JEWS" hysteria.
Can you read?
Do you understand that Lennon wasn't running for president?
I'm making POLITICAL comparisons between historical and would-be leaders.
The point here is that politicians, WHEN TRUSTED BLINDLY TO FOLLOW WITH THEIR WORDS CAN BE EXTREMELY DANGEROUS.
I don't think that is so hard to comprehend, but clearly here we have a walking-talking demonstration of that mental-block.
No shit, shirlock.
THATS THE FUCKING POINT.
What the fuck do you think my explanation was about?
The problem with Obama is, we're still in the "his words make perfect sense stage", because HE IS NOT ELECTED YET.
All i'm saying is, "if you buy this shit, lock stock and barrel, just be prepared to find out that there could be some VERY UNPALATABLE TRUTHS to digest once the lying son of a bitch gets in to office."
I'M NOT FUCKING TALKING ABOUT DEAD JEWS, GODDAMNIT.
Get it through your skull, folks.
Everytime someone fucking brings up Hitler, all mental focus does NOT have to revert to "dead jews! dead jews! OMFG hes talking about the guy that KILLED JEWS!"
Give me a fucking break.
People need to lay of the PCP (politically correct pandemonium).
If you cant understand the importance of reconciling that just because someone talks smooth as shit about glorious and wonderful things, doesn't mean they can't turn around and say ... oh maybe ... KILL A BUNCH OF FUCKING JEWS ... then i don't know how to help you.
That is the point.
Obama, sure as shit, knows how to go off at the mouth like a smooth criminal.
It doesn't mean that once he's elected, he won't just continue the same fucked up policies that are ass raping this country until she bleeds red white and fucking blue.
:cool:
and i'm fucking half jewish, and my entire dad's side of the family (baring immediate family) got wiped out thanks to Hitler AND HIS FINANCIAL BACKERS (the same fucking money that is in those same fucking banks that Obama is on the take from. LOOK IT UP) ... so don't give me any fucking shit about anti-semitism or paint me bad for talking trash about Obama and his "support for Israel". I know enough about history to not be a bumbling idiot over it. And i have enough personal connection to some of this to have done my homework.
BLIND SUPPORT FOR ANYONE IS FUCKING IDIOTIC
I don't give a fuck if it is some two-bit shill of a political whore,
a country, a movement, a rock singer, or paranoid talk show host.
Think for your fucking self, and learn how to separate truth from dogma.
:cool:
Settle down. There is no need to get irate when someone points out how full of beans you are.
"When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
and i think i'll order this shirt just to see how many sad punch-drinkin' libs i can offend.
hey, if they don't have to use logic, neither do i.
right?
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Love that one. It's actually not much of an exaggeration at all.
I pledge to you a government that will not only work well, but wisely, its ability to act tempered by prudence, and its willingness to do good, balanced by the knowledge that government is never more dangerous than when our desire to have it help us blinds us to its great power to harm us.
-Reagan
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Obama must be doing something right to get both the far right folks like Sean Hannity all in a tizzy, and the members of the far left like Alex Jones and his whipping boy Drifting...
Thank you.
I just love that i got flamed repeatedly for posting links to a Hitler comparison AFTER i posted my (what i deam to be valid) rationale behind that comparsion. Clearly these people just skipped the explanation.
the fact that you tried to argument seriously a ridiculous comparison is what got you flamed.
Both Obama and Hitler are talking about UNITING PEOPLE, and STRIVING FOR PEACE, and EDUCATION, and THE IMPORTANCE OF WORKING HARD
This shit is crazy similar.
Again do you really believe what you type? What politician, since politics exists, did not speak about "education, peace, unity and hard work"? Hey you know who that actually reminds me of? Bob Marley. Come to think of it, he's kind of like Hitler too.
And you know what else Hitler and Obama have in common? They're both men and dark haired :eek:.
You can't have a serious political discussion if you compare people to Hitler. "If all else fails, compare your opponent to Hitler" is a common argumentative law.
They are both INSANELY PERSUASIVE AND CAPTIVATING SPEAKERS.
I am just saying BE WARY OF THE SMOOTH TALKER.
Exactly, they're persuasive and captivating... wait that's the definiton of a good politician! You could have actually compared Obama to other people with more sense : Castro for example?
The people on this board who, EVERY time they hear the word "hitler", start thinking ONLY of dead jews, camps, and genocide, are THEMSELVES the perverts.
Haha, so basically Hitler should be reminded for being a good presidential candidate rather than the man who tried to eradicate Jewish people and started ww2? It's not a perversion to remember how horribly bad men can be.
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Fantastic post, Drifting. Thank you.
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"We've laid the groundwork. It's like planting the seeds. And next year, it's spring." - Nader
***********************
Prepare for tending to your garden, America.
Thank you.
I just love that i got flamed repeatedly for posting links to a Hitler comparison AFTER i posted my (what i deam to be valid) rationale behind that comparsion. Clearly these people just skipped the explanation.
HERE IS A GREAT HITLER SPEECH TO WATCH. [it is a speech to the Hitler Youth]
"in the future there must be no ranks or classes"
"a ONE people"
"We want to see ONE nation, and you must EDUCATE yourselves for it"
"WE WANT THIS PEOPLE TO BE PEACE LOVING"
"yet also to be courageous."
"You must be peaceable and courageous at the same time."
HOW CAN YOU NOT SEE THE COMPARISONS HERE?
Both Obama and Hitler are talking about UNITING PEOPLE, and STRIVING FOR PEACE, and EDUCATION, and THE IMPORTANCE OF WORKING HARD ... Obama "Americans and Europeans alike WILL BE REQUIRED TO DO MORE NOT LESS" ...
This shit is crazy similar.
That is my ONLY point in the comparison.
They are both INSANELY PERSUASIVE AND CAPTIVATING SPEAKERS.
And clearly Hitler sets a precedent for this type of talk to be DECEITFUL.
I am just saying BE WARY OF THE SMOOTH TALKER.
That is it.
The people on this board who, EVERY time they hear the word "hitler", start thinking ONLY of dead jews, camps, and genocide, are THEMSELVES the perverts.
You need to GO BACK, folks. Go back and understand HOW Hitler came to power, and understand WHAT HE SAID that made him so fucking attractive. HE WASN'T A RAVING LUNATIC in his speech. HE MADE A LOT OF SENSE.
He just flat out ignored most all of that, except the "obedience" and servitiude obviously, and just went on with plans to dominate the world, sack europe and devastate the jews, gypsies, feeble and anyone else who didn't fit with his new Germania.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
http://katysconservativecorner.typepad.com/katy/images/2008/04/21/snob.jpg
http://images.redstate.com/files/POSTER-1.jpg
http://images.redstate.com/files/POSTER-2.jpg
http://www.gelatobaby.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/change_you_can_xerox.jpg
XD
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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That may be the funniest non-Obama poster EVER.
So true.
its nothing if not slogan-able.
like Warhol, you could find the crap everywhere.
it just didn't mean it was substantive or even "good".
If I opened it now would you not understand?
couple more...surprising how many Google pulled up via "Obama Propaganda"
http://a500.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/51/l_89b9fce380d40793c8fb6918729114e3.jpg
http://bigchase.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/obey.jpg
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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word, but you linked to the original Andre "obey", and not the "Obama Obey" ...
If I opened it now would you not understand?
edit: okay. Hillary. BUT FUNNY!
If I opened it now would you not understand?
"Marxism"
Barack's Evil Twin: Hope \ Despair CLASSIC.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
easily rectified....
http://i33.tinypic.com/2duxjxj.jpg
:cool:
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
That shit is over the top funny...
the accuracy is frightening!
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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( o.O)
(")_(")
Ps. I heart you drifting ♥
http://akidabroad.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/st-obama-of-assisi.jpg
http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/5/24/iminurgayfan128561268187455612.jpg
XD
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
There we have it folks.
once again, the blind "hitler = DEAD JEWS" hysteria.
Can you read?
Do you understand that Lennon wasn't running for president?
I'm making POLITICAL comparisons between historical and would-be leaders.
The point here is that politicians, WHEN TRUSTED BLINDLY TO FOLLOW WITH THEIR WORDS CAN BE EXTREMELY DANGEROUS.
I don't think that is so hard to comprehend, but clearly here we have a walking-talking demonstration of that mental-block.
No shit, shirlock.
THATS THE FUCKING POINT.
What the fuck do you think my explanation was about?
The problem with Obama is, we're still in the "his words make perfect sense stage", because HE IS NOT ELECTED YET.
All i'm saying is, "if you buy this shit, lock stock and barrel, just be prepared to find out that there could be some VERY UNPALATABLE TRUTHS to digest once the lying son of a bitch gets in to office."
I'M NOT FUCKING TALKING ABOUT DEAD JEWS, GODDAMNIT.
Get it through your skull, folks.
Everytime someone fucking brings up Hitler, all mental focus does NOT have to revert to "dead jews! dead jews! OMFG hes talking about the guy that KILLED JEWS!"
Give me a fucking break.
People need to lay of the PCP (politically correct pandemonium).
If you cant understand the importance of reconciling that just because someone talks smooth as shit about glorious and wonderful things, doesn't mean they can't turn around and say ... oh maybe ... KILL A BUNCH OF FUCKING JEWS ... then i don't know how to help you.
That is the point.
Obama, sure as shit, knows how to go off at the mouth like a smooth criminal.
It doesn't mean that once he's elected, he won't just continue the same fucked up policies that are ass raping this country until she bleeds red white and fucking blue down the toilet drain.
:cool:
and i'm fucking half jewish, and my entire dad's side of the family tree (baring my immediate relatives that escaped germany early) got wiped out thanks to Hitler AND HIS FINANCIAL BACKERS (the same fucking money that is in those same fucking banks that Obama is on the take from. LOOK IT UP) ... so don't give me any fucking shit about anti-semitism or paint me bad for talking trash about Obama and his "support for Israel". I know enough about history to not be a bumbling idiot over it. And i have enough personal connection to some of this to have done my homework.
BLIND SUPPORT FOR ANYONE IS FUCKING IDIOTIC
I don't give a fuck if it is some two-bit shill of a political whore,
a country, a movement, a rock singer, or paranoid talk show host.
Think for your fucking self, and learn how to separate truth from dogma.
:cool:
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Look in the mirror.
You argued my own point for me,
and it is clear you can not even comprehend what should be a very simple comparison.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
http://i36.tinypic.com/j7rtja.jpg
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
This One is ugly, but to the point.
and i think i'll order this shirt just to see how many sad punch-drinkin' libs i can offend.
hey, if they don't have to use logic, neither do i.
right?
sucks
If I opened it now would you not understand?
is it bullshit?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
for the obama loving swarms.
get your uniforms.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
yes. whooooooohoooooo. green is back!!!!! cause you know, he instructed people not to wear green last week and all. tsk tsk. :rolleyes:
green. mmmmmmmm.
hard medicine 08...
http://i35.tinypic.com/2z6utc0.jpg
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Love that one. It's actually not much of an exaggeration at all.
-Reagan
mmm...smell the change...
http://i36.tinypic.com/aw82u1.jpg
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
http://i37.tinypic.com/8xqvz7.jpg
It almost exudes a bowling for dollars feeling...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
I call this piece "Helter Skelter"
http://i38.tinypic.com/14tq0bn.jpg
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and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
the Borat one is funny, and everyone is like Hitler in some way, except me of course.
Again do you really believe what you type? What politician, since politics exists, did not speak about "education, peace, unity and hard work"? Hey you know who that actually reminds me of? Bob Marley. Come to think of it, he's kind of like Hitler too.
And you know what else Hitler and Obama have in common? They're both men and dark haired :eek:.
You can't have a serious political discussion if you compare people to Hitler. "If all else fails, compare your opponent to Hitler" is a common argumentative law.
Exactly, they're persuasive and captivating... wait that's the definiton of a good politician! You could have actually compared Obama to other people with more sense : Castro for example? Haha, so basically Hitler should be reminded for being a good presidential candidate rather than the man who tried to eradicate Jewish people and started ww2? It's not a perversion to remember how horribly bad men can be.