Im not paranoid fool. If you think both the u.s. and england both had a terror drill on the same day a terrorist attack happened you should shoot yourself in the face and get it over with. Let along both of them having the exact same terror drill that ended up happening,
Well, shoot yourself in the face too then.
Nice "debating" here. Wonder how long until this thread is closed...
Holy shit im drunk. I sign off with that.
nuff said.
Peace
Dan
"YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
I'm sure someone posted on these boards, Roland i think it was, that there was a drill on the day of the 1993 world trade center bombs too.
I think it's too much of a coincidence.
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
I'm sure someone posted on these boards, Roland i think it was, that there was a drill on the day of the 1993 world trade center bombs too.
I think it's too much of a coincidence.
Yeah. The bomber is actualy ADMITTED to have been a "CIA\FBI Informant\Training Asset" ...
And the guy was given what HE thought was a "fake" bomb.
When he began to realize it may have been real, and started to ask questions about it, intelligence services simply told him, "Shut up, and go plant the bomb."
Sraight from good ole wikipedia (which i'm shocked, because ole Wikipedia usualy whitewashes this stuff ... or atleast the CIA stoogeballs that "edit" wikipedia usualy get to it ... see Creature From Jekyll Island, if you don't think the spooks try to wash it) ...
In the course of the trial it was revealed that the FBI had an informant, a former Egyptian army officer named Emad A. Salem. Salem claims to have informed the FBI of the plot to bomb the towers as early as February 6, 1992. Salem's role as informant allowed the FBI to quickly pinpoint the conspirators out of the hundreds of possible suspects.
Salem, initially believing that this was to be a sting operation, claimed that the FBI's original plan was for Salem to supply the conspirators with a harmless powder instead of actual explosive to build their bomb, but that the FBI chose to use him for other purposes instead. [13] He secretly recorded hundreds of hours of telephone conversations with his FBI handlers; reported by Ralph Blumenthal in the New York Times, Oct. 28, 1993, section A,Page 1.[14]
In December 1993, James M. Fox, the head of the FBI's New York Office, denied that the FBI had any foreknowledge of the attacks.[citation needed] The 1993 WTC sting operation was depicted as a false flag operation
Yeah.
And i like the guy who just proved me wrong by giving us a statistical analysis of 1 in 13million ... which, though i am no great statistician, i would have to believe is inaccurate ... discounts multiple bombs, and only takes in to account one year in history ... to name a few reasons the analysis is off ... i mean, how bout the fucking odds that a terror group would even pick that COUNTRY on that day of that month of that year at that time in those places with say bombs and not machine guns ... and even still 1 in 13 million? come on.
Again, the ONLY argument i ever hear come from people that any of this could NOT have been government involvement is "shut up you dumb conspiracy theorist, it is just a COINCIDENCE!"
Well goddamn.
I guess i'll just shutup.
CLEARLY it is ALL nothing more than happenstance.
Come to send.
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Not one person wants to step up and take a stab at this, huh?
sure.
1. that's a lot of fucking reading that i don't feel like doing.
2. there's no hard evidence in there, only circumstantial supposition and conjecture. certainly nothing that could ever amount to proof in court.
3. based upon 2, what the fuck are you gonna do about it? jack fucking shit. becos you can't do a goddamn thing and you know it. why don't you recognize and admit that you are powerless and that the elite rule this country and most others, as has always been the case since the dawn of human history and will until our extinciton, let go of your utopian equal democracy dreams, and try to get your little piece of the pie before they get it from you.
1. that's a lot of fucking reading that i don't feel like doing.
2. there's no hard evidence in there, only circumstantial supposition and conjecture. certainly nothing that could ever amount to proof in court.
3. based upon 2, what the fuck are you gonna do about it? jack fucking shit. becos you can't do a goddamn thing and you know it. why don't you recognize and admit that you are powerless and that the elite rule this country and most others, as has always been the case since the dawn of human history and will until our extinciton, let go of your utopian equal democracy dreams, and try to get your little piece of the pie before they get it from you.
Wow.
I can't believe you've littered this board with over thirty thousand a-hole posts.
Way to go.
BTW, the original post has links to 3 videos each less than 2.5 MINUTES. No reading, bub.
And FYI, in a court of law, this Mr. Powers douchebag would be under oath and required to answer questions by the judge. Given that he is probably not directly responsible, the judge would order him to answer ... and we would find out WHO helped him pick those tube stations.
THAT would probably get us somewhere.
Way to be a total jerk about it all too.
So basicaly you acknowledge that there is an elite powerstructure, but you think it is not in collusion in any seriously criminal matter, huh?
right.
:rolleyes:
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
what are you gonna do buddy? what's your plan of action? how do you intend to "out" these criminals and see justice done?
Concerted grassroots effort to replace congress and the senate with "our guys".
See the consolidating Ron Paul "Revolution" Grassroots for an example of that. 40 some odd fellow patriots running for congressional office. In the next 5 years, i think we will see people reclaim some of their soverign powers.
Especialy if we get in the senate ... see Murray Sabin.
Filabuster, anyone?
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
So basicaly you acknowledge that there is an elite powerstructure, but you think it is not in collusion in any seriously criminal matter, huh?
the first part, yes. there is an elite. there always has been. every human society in history has had an elite ruling class. it is human nature.
as to the collusion, i've no doubt people on top are doing criminal things. the point is, so what? what are you gonna do about it? they caught nixon red-handed breaking the law and he was never even fully investigated. these people cannot be touched. so im not going to raise my blood pressure over it. it's the way of the world. just like i can't stop burglaries or win the wat on drugs. some fights just cannot be won.
as to your grassroots thing, good luck. i saw the results of that with ralph nader in 2000 and don't see much changing. even if you guys get A senate seat, it will change nothing, just as that republican going independent made no difference in the grand scheme. even if there is a "revolution" sweeping aside the current guys, so what? so the republicans die, as did the whigs and the federalists. a taste of power and suddenly the libertarians will slip right into the vacuum left. the same people who rule now will just switch parties, or just retire and let their children carry on the same things they did only under a different party name. meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
drifting, it's a good thing you said "seriously"... TWICE... b/c i was about to pass up this thread, assuming it was just another of your ranting, stream-of-consciousness, talking-mostly-to-yourself threads, either about ron paul OR some other mass conspiracy...
wha? wait a minute... FUCK! turns out this IS another one of your ranting, stream-of-consciousness, talking-mostly-to-yourself threads.
my bad.
:rolleyes:
"Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States, Barack Obama."
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
drifting, it's a good thing you said "seriously"... TWICE... b/c i was about to pass up this thread, assuming it was just another of your ranting, stream-of-consciousness, talking-mostly-to-yourself threads, either about ron paul OR some other mass conspiracy...
wha? wait a minute... FUCK! turns out this IS another one of your ranting, stream-of-consciousness, talking-mostly-to-yourself threads.
my bad.
:rolleyes:
aw look.
i got all my favorite friends in one widdle biddle thread.
So whats your take on the original post links.
Let me guess, just a big fucking co-inky-dink, right?
Damn the world is a funny place.
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
aw look.
i got all my favorite friends in one widdle biddle thread.
So whats your take on the original post links.
Let me guess, just a big fucking co-inky-dink, right?
Damn the world is a funny place.
my take is i dont know what the fuck happened and i know that you dont either. the difference is i admit it, while you claim to have some certain knowledge based on random pieces of circumstantial evidence. the other difference is i don't think it matters one bit becos regardless of what happened we are powerless to change it, while you seem to feel that simply spouting theories with no firm evidence is somehow going to topple social hierarchies that have and will exist for centuries.
my take is i dont know what the fuck happened and i know that you dont either. the difference is i admit it, while you claim to have some certain knowledge based on random pieces of circumstantial evidence. the other difference is i don't think it matters one bit becos regardless of what happened we are powerless to change it, while you seem to feel that simply spouting theories with no firm evidence is somehow going to topple social hierarchies that have and will exist for centuries.
Right.
Your just mad because i'm fucking with the hose in the back of your head that connects you to your happy little matrix right?
Don't try to resist.
I'm just trying to make people AWARE of things,
so that maybe people will get ahold of reality as it REALY is, not as it appears to be ... and THEN maybe change will come.
But you are the one with the "fuck it, defeatist" attitude.
Don't try to fucking put that negative bullshit on me.
I'm just looking for truth.
So fuck all.
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Right.
Your just mad because i'm fucking with the hose in the back of your head that connects you to your happy little matrix right?
Don't try to resist.
I'm just trying to make people AWARE of things,
so that maybe people will get ahold of reality as it REALY is, not as it appears to be ... and THEN maybe change will come.
But you are the one with the "fuck it, defeatist" attitude.
Don't try to fucking put that negative bullshit on me.
I'm just looking for truth.
So fuck all.
fuck that man, i intend to be the guy hooking those hoses to people's heads. i am not unaware of reality. i just happen to have accepted reality rather than embracing the ILLUSION that i can alter it just by wishing. you can't beat em, so i joined em.
Comments
Nice "debating" here. Wonder how long until this thread is closed...
nuff said.
Peace
Dan
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
I think it's too much of a coincidence.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
Yeah. The bomber is actualy ADMITTED to have been a "CIA\FBI Informant\Training Asset" ...
And the guy was given what HE thought was a "fake" bomb.
When he began to realize it may have been real, and started to ask questions about it, intelligence services simply told him, "Shut up, and go plant the bomb."
Sraight from good ole wikipedia (which i'm shocked, because ole Wikipedia usualy whitewashes this stuff ... or atleast the CIA stoogeballs that "edit" wikipedia usualy get to it ... see Creature From Jekyll Island, if you don't think the spooks try to wash it) ...
Yeah.
And i like the guy who just proved me wrong by giving us a statistical analysis of 1 in 13million ... which, though i am no great statistician, i would have to believe is inaccurate ... discounts multiple bombs, and only takes in to account one year in history ... to name a few reasons the analysis is off ... i mean, how bout the fucking odds that a terror group would even pick that COUNTRY on that day of that month of that year at that time in those places with say bombs and not machine guns ... and even still 1 in 13 million? come on.
Again, the ONLY argument i ever hear come from people that any of this could NOT have been government involvement is "shut up you dumb conspiracy theorist, it is just a COINCIDENCE!"
Well goddamn.
I guess i'll just shutup.
CLEARLY it is ALL nothing more than happenstance.
Come to send.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
sure.
1. that's a lot of fucking reading that i don't feel like doing.
2. there's no hard evidence in there, only circumstantial supposition and conjecture. certainly nothing that could ever amount to proof in court.
3. based upon 2, what the fuck are you gonna do about it? jack fucking shit. becos you can't do a goddamn thing and you know it. why don't you recognize and admit that you are powerless and that the elite rule this country and most others, as has always been the case since the dawn of human history and will until our extinciton, let go of your utopian equal democracy dreams, and try to get your little piece of the pie before they get it from you.
Wow.
I can't believe you've littered this board with over thirty thousand a-hole posts.
Way to go.
BTW, the original post has links to 3 videos each less than 2.5 MINUTES. No reading, bub.
And FYI, in a court of law, this Mr. Powers douchebag would be under oath and required to answer questions by the judge. Given that he is probably not directly responsible, the judge would order him to answer ... and we would find out WHO helped him pick those tube stations.
THAT would probably get us somewhere.
Way to be a total jerk about it all too.
So basicaly you acknowledge that there is an elite powerstructure, but you think it is not in collusion in any seriously criminal matter, huh?
right.
:rolleyes:
If I opened it now would you not understand?
can't respond to point number 3 can you?
what are you gonna do buddy? what's your plan of action? how do you intend to "out" these criminals and see justice done?
Concerted grassroots effort to replace congress and the senate with "our guys".
See the consolidating Ron Paul "Revolution" Grassroots for an example of that. 40 some odd fellow patriots running for congressional office. In the next 5 years, i think we will see people reclaim some of their soverign powers.
Especialy if we get in the senate ... see Murray Sabin.
Filabuster, anyone?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
the first part, yes. there is an elite. there always has been. every human society in history has had an elite ruling class. it is human nature.
as to the collusion, i've no doubt people on top are doing criminal things. the point is, so what? what are you gonna do about it? they caught nixon red-handed breaking the law and he was never even fully investigated. these people cannot be touched. so im not going to raise my blood pressure over it. it's the way of the world. just like i can't stop burglaries or win the wat on drugs. some fights just cannot be won.
as to your grassroots thing, good luck. i saw the results of that with ralph nader in 2000 and don't see much changing. even if you guys get A senate seat, it will change nothing, just as that republican going independent made no difference in the grand scheme. even if there is a "revolution" sweeping aside the current guys, so what? so the republicans die, as did the whigs and the federalists. a taste of power and suddenly the libertarians will slip right into the vacuum left. the same people who rule now will just switch parties, or just retire and let their children carry on the same things they did only under a different party name. meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
wha? wait a minute... FUCK! turns out this IS another one of your ranting, stream-of-consciousness, talking-mostly-to-yourself threads.
my bad.
:rolleyes:
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
aw look.
i got all my favorite friends in one widdle biddle thread.
So whats your take on the original post links.
Let me guess, just a big fucking co-inky-dink, right?
Damn the world is a funny place.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
my take is i dont know what the fuck happened and i know that you dont either. the difference is i admit it, while you claim to have some certain knowledge based on random pieces of circumstantial evidence. the other difference is i don't think it matters one bit becos regardless of what happened we are powerless to change it, while you seem to feel that simply spouting theories with no firm evidence is somehow going to topple social hierarchies that have and will exist for centuries.
Right.
Your just mad because i'm fucking with the hose in the back of your head that connects you to your happy little matrix right?
Don't try to resist.
I'm just trying to make people AWARE of things,
so that maybe people will get ahold of reality as it REALY is, not as it appears to be ... and THEN maybe change will come.
But you are the one with the "fuck it, defeatist" attitude.
Don't try to fucking put that negative bullshit on me.
I'm just looking for truth.
So fuck all.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
fuck that man, i intend to be the guy hooking those hoses to people's heads. i am not unaware of reality. i just happen to have accepted reality rather than embracing the ILLUSION that i can alter it just by wishing. you can't beat em, so i joined em.