Okay. SERIOUSLY now. What is the explanation for this? & I Said, SERIOUSLY

DriftingByTheStorm

Look,
you can convince me of a LOT of things in life being coincidence ... but some things i just DONT buy:

Yes, How Fucking "Extraordinary"!

Why "At A Half Past Nine" ... "Pecisely!"

So, Mr Powers, care to answer a few questions?

Funny how in recent years High Profile Terrorist Attacks sure seem to coincide PRECISELY with Mock Terror "Drills" that are just PRECISELY about the exact same thing, at the exact same place at the exact same time.

911, "Is this real world or EXERCISE" ... hmm ...

and why was this mobile command bunker up and running directly over DC not able to track one measily plane coming in, anyhow? what WAS it doing then, huh?
That plane had almost a full hour to switch from exercise to real world, and it was in PRECISELY the right place at the right time ... and yet, it could do nothing, huh?

:rolleyes:

DriftingByTheStorm

Not one person wants to step up and take a stab at this, huh?

No one just wating to tell me i'm some sort of dolt for thinking their could be more to this than coincidence?

Not even one humble soul who would like to set me free of my paranoia by explaining away the statistical anomaly of someone running drills on the same day at the same time in two identical locations as two precisely identical REAL bombings?

I mean, i'm sure that statisticaly speaking, there must be like, what, a 1 in 2 chance that everytime you hold a terrorism drill an actual terrorist incident could occur?

You think its something like that? 1 in 2?
Or is it way higher, like 1 in 10?

:rolleyes:

BTW.
In case anyone believes anything AJ says, he got with some mathematicians and broke out some actuary tables and the odds they calculated, again if you believe calculating these odds is at all possible was ...

1 in 40,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

Im still here

You know I will step up and say something.......

The facts speak for themselves.....

The sheep are afraid to step up and say, "Yes, Drifting you are right."

It is definitely no coincidence. In my opinion it was planned, just like the 911 drills were planned. They would rather stick their heads in the sand than be targeted by their Government when in all actuality it is our Government who should be afraid of us and the TRUTH that we possess.

My only hope is that enough of us are smart enough to save alot of this documentation to our hard drives. When the "New Internet" arrives info like this will be non-existent.

DriftingByTheStorm

Im still here wrote:

The facts speak for themselves.....

The sheep are afraid to step up and say, "Yes, Drifting you are right."

You know what?
I hear you, but that isn't even what this is about.
This (and by this, i mean like 99% of my posts on politics) is not about some stupid "Drifting has an ego that he needs to maintain by crushing the souls of his fellow AMT posters, proving his wit is superior" thing.

This is about me as a person having a genuine love of the IDEALS this country was founded on, and beyond that a love for the very freedoms and liberties of my fellow men and women ...

... and it is about WANTING THEM TO THINK CRITICALY ... i don't care if at the end of the day you think this was innocent, but for fucksake think about it ... THINK HARD ... about the probability of fucking bullshit like this occuring ...

then PRESENT ME WITH YOUR BEST RATIONALE.

I just want people to acknowledge that they have thought about it.

Hell, like Alex Jones, I WANT TO BE WRONG!

PROVE ME WRONG!

If you do that, it means everything is just fine, and i can go back to leading my own little unparanoid life.


Otherwise,
there is a world of shit out there, and it is slowly encroaching on you and me.
:(

NMyTree

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Look,
you can convince me of a LOT of things in life being coincidence ... but some things i just DONT buy:

Yes, How Fucking "Extraordinary"!

Why "At A Half Past Nine" ... "Pecisely!"

So, Mr Powers, care to answer a few questions?

Funny how in recent years High Profile Terrorist Attacks sure seem to coincide PRECISELY with Mock Terror "Drills" that are just PRECISELY about the exact same thing, at the exact same place at the exact same time.

911, "Is this real world or EXERCISE" ... hmm ...

and why was this mobile command bunker up and running directly over DC not able to track one measily plane coming in, anyhow? what WAS it doing then, huh?
That plane had almost a full hour to switch from exercise to real world, and it was in PRECISELY the right place at the right time ... and yet, it could do nothing, huh?

:rolleyes:

Don't worry your little tin-foiled head about it.

Just go shopping, watch American Idol and worry about Britney Spears and steroids in baseball. For god's sake, must you be so difficult? Just follow along! Don't ask questions!

floyd1975

This thread makes me glad I bought this:

http://zapatopi.net/mindguard/

Im still here

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

You know what?
I hear you, but that isn't even what this is about.
This (and by this, i mean like 99% of my posts on politics) is not about some stupid "Drifting has an ego that he needs to maintain by crushing the souls of his fellow AMT posters, proving his wit is superior" thing.

This is about me as a person having a genuine love of the IDEALS this country was founded on, and beyond that a love for the very freedoms and liberties of my fellow men and women ...

... and it is about WANTING THEM TO THINK CRITICALY ... i don't care if at the end of the day you think this was innocent, but for fucksake think about it ... THINK HARD ... about the probability of fucking bullshit like this occuring ...

then PRESENT ME WITH YOUR BEST RATIONALE.

I just want people to acknowledge that they have thought about it.

Hell, like Alex Jones, I WANT TO BE WRONG!

PROVE ME WRONG!

If you do that, it means everything is just fine, and i can go back to leading my own little unparanoid life.


Otherwise,
there is a world of shit out there, and it is slowly encroaching on you and me.
:(

I was agreeing with you........

chill.....

btw: you are not wrong, I hate to be the one to break the news to you, our Government is lying to us

MasterFramer

This is something I agree with you on Drifting... something just isn't right with this "War on Terror". Nothing about 9/11 adds up...

eekamouse

I got banned on the RonPaulForums for this, but really guys, this 9/11 stuff gets us nowhere. I won't use the same scathing hate filled language I did there, but I think the whole 9/11 truth movement hurts Ron Paul, just like the far far left anarchists would hurt a Nader run, and shit like that.

If they REALLY REALLY wanted to put the fix in, they would have PLANTED, WMD's in Iraq somewhere... seriously.

However, I'm not completely stupid enough to think there hasn't been some shady crap going on in the government.

I just think it's a waste of time to dwell on this shit.

I mean Al Queda is still doing terrorist activites. You can't tell me that Bin Laden is some Lee Harvey Oswald patsy, and you can't tell me the anguish and fear felt on 9-11 wasn't felt by 99% of the employees of the Federal Government.

Sometimes I think the truthers are the fear-mongers... Sorry.

DriftingByTheStorm

eekamouse wrote:

I got banned on the RonPaulForums for this, but really guys, this 9/11 stuff gets us nowhere. I won't use the same scathing hate filled language I did there, but I think the whole 9/11 truth movement hurts Ron Paul, just like the far far left anarchists would hurt a Nader run, and shit like that.

If they REALLY REALLY wanted to put the fix in, they would have PLANTED, WMD's in Iraq somewhere... seriously.

However, I'm not completely stupid enough to think there hasn't been some shady crap going on in the government.

I just think it's a waste of time to dwell on this shit.

I mean Al Queda is still doing terrorist activites. You can't tell me that Bin Laden is some Lee Harvey Oswald patsy, and you can't tell me the anguish and fear felt on 9-11 wasn't felt by 99% of the employees of the Federal Government.

Sometimes I think the truthers are the fear-mongers... Sorry.

SO all that is to say your explanation for the video in the OP is .... ???

kenny olav

let's chill out already. ranting hurts my head.

jeffbr

eekamouse wrote:

I got banned on the RonPaulForums for this, but really guys, this 9/11 stuff gets us nowhere. I won't use the same scathing hate filled language I did there, but I think the whole 9/11 truth movement hurts Ron Paul, just like the far far left anarchists would hurt a Nader run, and shit like that.

If they REALLY REALLY wanted to put the fix in, they would have PLANTED, WMD's in Iraq somewhere... seriously.

However, I'm not completely stupid enough to think there hasn't been some shady crap going on in the government.

I just think it's a waste of time to dwell on this shit.

I mean Al Queda is still doing terrorist activites. You can't tell me that Bin Laden is some Lee Harvey Oswald patsy, and you can't tell me the anguish and fear felt on 9-11 wasn't felt by 99% of the employees of the Federal Government.

Sometimes I think the truthers are the fear-mongers... Sorry.

Good post, eek. I think you're right on. Most Paul supporters don't speak up anymore because they don't want to get lumped in with all of the crazies.

And Driftin, no I didn't watch the videos and have tried to be done with these sort of threads. Life's too short for me to spend on anything Alex Jones related, or conspiracy theory related. It simply no longer interests me, and the fun of arguing with CTers has long since vanished. It bores me.

Medicated-Genius

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Not one person wants to step up and take a stab at this, huh?

No one just wating to tell me i'm some sort of dolt for thinking their could be more to this than coincidence?

Not even one humble soul who would like to set me free of my paranoia by explaining away the statistical anomaly of someone running drills on the same day at the same time in two identical locations as two precisely identical REAL bombings?

I mean, i'm sure that statisticaly speaking, there must be like, what, a 1 in 2 chance that everytime you hold a terrorism drill an actual terrorist incident could occur?

You think its something like that? 1 in 2?
Or is it way higher, like 1 in 10?

:rolleyes:

BTW.
In case anyone believes anything AJ says, he got with some mathematicians and broke out some actuary tables and the odds they calculated, again if you believe calculating these odds is at all possible was ...

1 in 40,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

Not prepared to take a stab at it, since I ask the same questions. For sure, there is a whole lot more to this than the official story.......

DriftingByTheStorm

jeffbr wrote:

Good post, eek. I think you're right on. Most Paul supporters don't speak up anymore because they don't want to get lumped in with all of the crazies.

And Driftin, no I didn't watch the videos and have tried to be done with these sort of threads. Life's too short for me to spend on anything Alex Jones related, or conspiracy theory related. It simply no longer interests me, and the fun of arguing with CTers has long since vanished. It bores me.

The first link is 1:45 MINUTES LONG.
I think you can handle it jeff.

And if you categoricaly dismiss what Alex Jones talks about, then you are relegating a whole swath of reality to the dust bin.

Alex Jones has managed to find plenty of "crazy" stuff to agree with even far left leaning, Feminist mainstream personalities like Naomi Wolf.

In fact, saying you dismiss Alex Jones 100% categoricaly is just as stupid as saying you agree with him without independent verification.

IF YOU DON'T THINK SOMETHING IS WRONG IN THE ABOVE VIDEOS, THEN GOD HELP YOU.

:(

eekamouse

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Yes, How Fucking "Extraordinary"!

I knew about this already. It was a coincidence. The first several years after 9/11, these kinds of rehearsals were commonplace... fucking commonplace actually.

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Why "At A Half Past Nine" ... "Pecisely!"

Same thing as the first video, so nothing new here. Basically, this scenario isn't that hard to dream up for anyone. Simultaneous bombs, simultaneous air plane smashes? Pfft.. Nothing to see here.

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

So, Mr Powers, care to answer a few questions?

Funny how in recent years High Profile Terrorist Attacks sure seem to coincide PRECISELY with Mock Terror "Drills" that are just PRECISELY about the exact same thing, at the exact same place at the exact same time.

It could just as easily be that Al Queda infiltrated his company or whatever and planned the attacks at the exact time the drills were running. That would be a brilliant tactic, but it's a fucking drill right? Everyone is always a little "off their game" during drills. Also, it's unclear to me whether they were just running drills at the three sites (prime targets mind you so that also tells me nothing), or were they also running drills at additional targets.

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

911, "Is this real world or EXERCISE" ... hmm ...

WTF. Now you are just playing word/mind association games.... like the MAJORITY of fucking Youtube conspiracy videos... The game goes like this.... So and so once visited such and such company. He was seen having lunch in the same restaurant as Dick Cheney in 1972. WTF!!! Enough circumstantial evidence. Get back to me when you have DNA-proof.

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

and why was this mobile command bunker up and running directly over DC not able to track one measily plane coming in, anyhow? what WAS it doing then, huh?

Fuck off. No one knows wtf this plane was. Everyone knows about it. Big deal. Guess what. The government fumbled at the 1 yard line on 9/11. They didn't throw the game.

DriftingByTheStorm

eekamouse wrote:

I knew about this already. It was a coincidence. The first several years after 9/11, these kinds of rehearsals were commonplace... fucking commonplace actually.


Same thing as the first video, so nothing new here. Basically, this scenario isn't that hard to dream up for anyone. Simultaneous bombs, simultaneous air plane smashes? Pfft.. Nothing to see here.


It could just as easily be that Al Queda infiltrated his company or whatever and planned the attacks at the exact time the drills were running. That would be a brilliant tactic, but it's a fucking drill right? Everyone is always a little "off their game" during drills. Also, it's unclear to me whether they were just running drills at the three sites (prime targets mind you so that also tells me nothing), or were they also running drills at additional targets.


WTF. Now you are just playing word/mind association games.... like the MAJORITY of fucking Youtube conspiracy videos... The game goes like this.... So and so once visited such and such company. He was seen having lunch in the same restaurant as Dick Cheney in 1972. WTF!!! Enough circumstantial evidence. Get back to me when you have DNA-proof.



Fuck off. No one knows wtf this plane was. Everyone knows about it. Big deal. Guess what. The government fumbled at the 1 yard line on 9/11. They didn't throw the game.

You kind've missed the boat.
Even arguing that the two locations selected were "obvious", and even further arguing that the exact time of the events was "obvious", because these were two of the busiest stations at the busiest times ... even STILL ... the probability of it being those locations\times on that EXACT DAY are fucking off the charts of probability ...

And the point is not to draw some direct connection between 7/7 and 911, if that is what you are on about.

The point is that it is clear that having a "mock terror drill" makes an EXCELLENT SCREEN for implementing REAL terror. In otherwords, you can have all your people set up in the right places and no one will question them, because there is a drill going on.

"Hey that guy is planting a bomb on the subway!" ... "No don't worry, it's just an exercise." ... get it?
It is massive obfuscation ... it enables any communications that may be logged to be dismissed as "exercise", etc.

And that audio of "Is this real world or exercise" IS from 911 ... that's not "word\mind association games" ... thats me giving you audio evidence (if you still doubted that their were massive 911-esque wargames going on on 911) that an identical form of "mock terror" was in operation on 911 ... just like it was on 7/7 ... and according to you ... all just a big fucking cosmic coincidence.

As for the command center plane flying over the pentagon ... people DO know what it is ... it is just that ... a mobile command center ... presumably with all sorts of radar and tracking equipment and a full array of communications tools ...

... if you realy don't think that even that plane alone right there could have seen Flight 77 coming in to DC, you are just flat naive

I'd prefer to keep this focused on 7/7 for right now though.
Given the massive resistance to real critical disussion that exists regarding 911.

At some point people have to stop whittling away very substantive circumstantial evidence as nothing more than "coincidence" ... given the love for "occams razor" around here ... it would seem at some point the proponderance of "bizzare coincidences" would actualy push the more likely event to be the one ya'll are saying is less likely.

In other words, if a group of guys were not in power, but busy writing a series of documents that actively called for the need to occupy the middle east for oil interest concerns ... and they suggest that "a new pearl harbor" would be of necessity to get the will of the people ... and then low and behold, those exact same people then (by bizzare coincidence that involves massive elections fraud rigged by "the powers that be") get in to power and go through a series of steps to ensure that such catastrophe happens ... like not taking action on presidential briefs warning of attacks ... telling the FBI to back off known terrorists ... forcing border security to let terrorist in to the states ... training them at secret government schools ... raiding the records so the public cant find the truth ... talking with the same guy who is known to have wired the terrorists money, and talking to him the day before 911 strangely ... i mean the fucking list goes on and one ... signing orders that give you the sole shoot down authority (when you are the guy who was calling for a "new pearl harbor" in the first place, and you were also the director of the CFR) ...

... and then all that shit happens just the way you had hoped, and you get your war, and your oil, and your haliburton contracts ...

... and then when the questions role in you try to get KISSINGER (a guy who talks about "new world order" REPEATEDLY!) as the head of the 911 Comission?

Oh give me afucking break.

It is GLARINGLY obvious!

But like i said, lets just talk about 7/7

Nevermind

eekamouse wrote:

I knew about this already. It was a coincidence. The first several years after 9/11, these kinds of rehearsals were commonplace... fucking commonplace actually.


Same thing as the first video, so nothing new here. Basically, this scenario isn't that hard to dream up for anyone. Simultaneous bombs, simultaneous air plane smashes? Pfft.. Nothing to see here.


It could just as easily be that Al Queda infiltrated his company or whatever and planned the attacks at the exact time the drills were running. That would be a brilliant tactic, but it's a fucking drill right? Everyone is always a little "off their game" during drills. Also, it's unclear to me whether they were just running drills at the three sites (prime targets mind you so that also tells me nothing), or were they also running drills at additional targets.


WTF. Now you are just playing word/mind association games.... like the MAJORITY of fucking Youtube conspiracy videos... The game goes like this.... So and so once visited such and such company. He was seen having lunch in the same restaurant as Dick Cheney in 1972. WTF!!! Enough circumstantial evidence. Get back to me when you have DNA-proof.



Fuck off. No one knows wtf this plane was. Everyone knows about it. Big deal. Guess what. The government fumbled at the 1 yard line on 9/11. They didn't throw the game.

I thought I was naive.

eekamouse

Holy fuck... Fuck this board. I'm not wasting my breath.

DriftingByTheStorm

eekamouse wrote:

Holy fuck... Fuck this board. I'm not wasting my breath.

Yeah.
Thats fine.
I'm sort of hoping for someone else to come along and give a better response anyhow.

There is no less proof that there IS some sort of "conspiracy" on 911 than there is proof that there was NOT.

In other words, just having 19 hijackers, doesn't mean they couldn't be patsies. And if you accept that to be a valid hypothesis, then when you start supporting it with (contrary to what you say) very substaintial claims based on circumstantial evidence (which by the way is perfectly valid in a court of law, and is often ALL that is used to convict someone) ... at some point when those circumstaintial claims all point to one glaring assertion ... it then becomes up to the DEFENSE to prove that those bits of evidence are in fact NOT incriminating.

And that is something that the accused has 100% failed to do.

DriftingByTheStorm

Also,
for people who only think idiots and powerless internet fools believe this stuff:

Andreas Von Bulow, former German Defense Minsiter, and longtime member of German Parliament (69-94) and once a member of the Intelligence Committee ... has acknowledege 911 was an inside job.

also

Francesco Cossiga, former President of Italy, has said the same ... acknowledging that ONLY the CIA could have done this ... Cossiga, coincidentaly, the same man who outed some of the antics of Operation Gladio ... specificaly ... in case you fail to see the relevance ...

"[...] a rightwing terrorist cell in the Venice region had been supplied with military explosives from Germany. Those explosives may have been obtained with the help of members of the US intelligence community, an indication that the Americans had gone beyond the infiltration and monitoring of extremist groups to instigating acts of violence"

Hmm.
CIA involved in funding, instigating, and planning of acts of violence against innocent people under the guise of "terrorist" in order to rally public political support for a hidden agenda? No never.

:rolleyes:



oh.
Another fucked up coincidence, right?
Hey, "it may have been someone was just joking, and they happened to get it right"!
Damn. That some fucking shit!
Damn!


How bout this, Visa Chief explains how Saudi Terrorists were given visas by CIA!

Really don't think the CIA could have just MAYBE been involved with 911, huh?

beachdweller

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Look,
you can convince me of a LOT of things in life being coincidence ... but some things i just DONT buy:

Yes, How Fucking "Extraordinary"!

Why "At A Half Past Nine" ... "Pecisely!"

So, Mr Powers, care to answer a few questions?

Funny how in recent years High Profile Terrorist Attacks sure seem to coincide PRECISELY with Mock Terror "Drills" that are just PRECISELY about the exact same thing, at the exact same place at the exact same time.

911, "Is this real world or EXERCISE" ... hmm ...

and why was this mobile command bunker up and running directly over DC not able to track one measily plane coming in, anyhow? what WAS it doing then, huh?
That plane had almost a full hour to switch from exercise to real world, and it was in PRECISELY the right place at the right time ... and yet, it could do nothing, huh?

:rolleyes:

first crack, taking what AJ has spliced together in the editing room and filling in the story that fits it doesn't qualify as evidence. That being said, it all needs to be looked at, and these issues are far from top of the heap of the current administrations war on the constitution. To bad the Dem's are ball-less and won't take appropriate action, which makes them partially responsible.