Uh. Fucking Speechless Here

DriftingByTheStorm

I was looking for real clips explaining the history of true U.S state sponsored terrorism, but i found this.

Bayer Corporation deliberately sell AIDS infected drug in foreign markets to cover losses on bad product.

US Government TURNS ITS HEAD!

WTF !?!?

WTF WTF WTF

Nevermind

AIDS was created in a U.S. lab.

prism

not to defend Bayer at all but how was the US government supposed to tell a German company with products manufactured in Germany what other countries they can sell their products in? yes they told them that they couldn't sell it in the US, but what else could the FDA have done to stop Bayer from trying to sell it elsewhere at the time? not defending the FDA either, just asking


this happened back in the 80's. nothing like taking an old story to try to make it sound recent in the attempt to sell ratings.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contaminated_haemophilia_blood_products

However, after stopping sales of the drugs in the United States in 1984, Bayer may have continued to sell the contaminated products overseas for at least another year.

sponger

prism wrote:

but what else could the FDA have done to stop Bayer from trying to sell it elsewhere at the time?

If Germany was an oil-producing nation, the US would've declared Bayer a terrorist organization and invaded Germany for supporting terrorism.

redsdisease

Nevermind wrote:

AIDS was created in a U.S. lab.

Really? U.S. scientists in the seventies, with their limited knowledge of RNA and limited technology, were able to create a virus from scratch. They were able to pull off something that we still haven't been able to do 30 years later. Impressive.

Nevermind

http://codshit.blogspot.com/search/label/AIDS

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

the U.S. is awesome!

DriftingByTheStorm

prism wrote:

this happened back in the 80's. nothing like taking an old story to try to make it sound recent in the attempt to sell ratings. .

wow.
thats lame-o.

I found this (that, up there) video late last night, while drunk-surfing the net.

They sure dug back in time for that story ...

but it is still some bullshit.

I can't believe there wasn't a massive class-action suit against them for that crap.

Im still here

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

wow.
thats lame-o.

I found this (that, up there) video late last night, while drunk-surfing the net.

They sure dug back in time for that story ...

but it is still some bullshit.

I can't believe there wasn't a massive class-action suit against them for that crap.

The real question is who owns Bayer or are they the Corporation themselves.

Don't know much about this one, but I do know that AIDS was invented by the U.S. GOVT.

btw, drunk surfin can really get you hurt

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

dont forget cancer! we definitely invented that shit. way too complicated.

god bless america!

DriftingByTheStorm

Im still here wrote:

The real question is who owns Bayer or are they the Corporation themselves.

Don't know much about this one, but I do know that AIDS was invented by the U.S. GOVT.

btw, drunk surfin can really get you hurt

I was reading some of that stuff you posted.
I just have to say WOW if any of it is true.
I'ma start digging some more.
I know people have accused it of being manmade for at least a decade now, and it sure wouldn't suprise me.
And hey, the NWO wants massive depopulation, right?


BTW, this doesn't sound very good:

From That AIDS article wrote:

It is a recombinant turned into the HIV (virus) agent, formed by converging a leukemia and a lymphomathat according to Dr. Gallo and other researchers.

...

Yucky!

redsdisease

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

I was reading some of that stuff you posted.
I just have to say WOW if any of it is true.
I'ma start digging some more.
I know people have accused it of being manmade for at least a decade now, and it sure wouldn't suprise me.
And hey, the NWO wants massive depopulation, right?


BTW, this doesn't sound very good:
...

Yucky!

I'm sorry, but the idea that AIDS was invented by the U.S. government is simply laughable. I'm not saying that they wouldn't have if they could, but the technology wasn't there. Now, thirty years later after incredible scientific advances, that is still out of our reach.

You really have to check your sources. Some of the stuff that I read on here is unbelievable. Combining leukemia and lymphoma to create HIV!? That doesn't make any sense at all! Those are both cancers, HIV is a virus. Patients with AIDS sometimes get leukemia, but that's because the HIV destroys the immune system. You cannot combine two cancers (body cells that multiply out of control) to create a virus (a tiny partially living organism that commandeers a cell's parts to create more of itself).

DriftingByTheStorm

redsdisease wrote:

HIV is a virus. Patients with AIDS sometimes get leukemia, but that's because the HIV destroys the immune system. You cannot combine two cancers (body cells that multiply out of control) to create a virus (a tiny partially living organism that commandeers a cell's parts to create more of itself).

See now your talking science.
We deal in THEORIES over here, bub.

Anyhow, i'll take your word for it for the time being, and go back to chewing my cud.

I can only read so much on so many things, and this ain't on my short list.

You say we couldn't have made aids, it's good enough for me.


Now Nevermind has got me wondering if the Nephilim are real.

:rolleyes:

Nevermind

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

See now your talking science.
We deal in THEORIES over here, bub.

Anyhow, i'll take your word for it for the time being, and go back to chewing my cud.

I can only read so much on so many things, and this ain't on my short list.

You say we couldn't have made aids, it's good enough for me.


Now Nevermind has got me wondering if the Nephilim are real.

:rolleyes:

Dont have to believe. But I used to live in Pahrump, Nevada. Saw some strange things there. Pahrump is right next to Groom Lake.

blackredyellow

redsdisease wrote:

I'm sorry, but the idea that AIDS was invented by the U.S. government is simply laughable. I'm not saying that they wouldn't have if they could, but the technology wasn't there. Now, thirty years later after incredible scientific advances, that is still out of our reach.

You really have to check your sources. Some of the stuff that I read on here is unbelievable. Combining leukemia and lymphoma to create HIV!? That doesn't make any sense at all! Those are both cancers, HIV is a virus. Patients with AIDS sometimes get leukemia, but that's because the HIV destroys the immune system. You cannot combine two cancers (body cells that multiply out of control) to create a virus (a tiny partially living organism that commandeers a cell's parts to create more of itself).

C'mon, you should know that common sense and basic science belong nowhere near this thread...

DriftingByTheStorm

blackredyellow wrote:

C'mon, you should know that common sense and basic science belong nowhere near this thread...

Actualy my original post has nothing to do with the government creating aids.

Just some realy fucked up shit involving corporate profit at the expense of people's health and safety.

redsdisease

Nevermind wrote:

Dont have to believe. But I used to live in Pahrump, Nevada. Saw some strange things there. Pahrump is right next to Groom Lake.

That is a strange town.

cornnifer

redsdisease wrote:

I'm sorry, but the idea that AIDS was invented by the U.S. government is simply laughable. I'm not saying that they wouldn't have if they could, but the technology wasn't there. Now, thirty years later after incredible scientific advances, that is still out of our reach.

You really have to check your sources. Some of the stuff that I read on here is unbelievable. Combining leukemia and lymphoma to create HIV!? That doesn't make any sense at all! Those are both cancers, HIV is a virus. Patients with AIDS sometimes get leukemia, but that's because the HIV destroys the immune system. You cannot combine two cancers (body cells that multiply out of control) to create a virus (a tiny partially living organism that commandeers a cell's parts to create more of itself).

To be honest, i don't think the idea is that laughable. i don't know how it would have been done, i won't pretend to know what was combined with what, but i do believe it was created in a lab. The story i heard many years ago is that it was "stumbled upon" or created by scientists working on germ warfare. i don't know if its true or not, but i just don't think its all that unthinkable. i'm not generally a conspiracy theorist, but it's not hard for me to believe the AIDS virus was "created".

sponger

And then one remembers the Delta 32 gene, which protected people from the black plague hundreds of years ago and also gives some people today an immunity to AIDS. Was the black plague also a government experiment? Probably not. So, how is it that a naturally occurring gene can fend off an lab-created super virus?

KosmicJelli

MrSmith wrote:

dont forget cancer! we definitely invented that shit. way too complicated.

god bless america!

Kinda... given that we have seriously Irradiated the planet.... which settles in breast, reproductive organs and colon.... hmmm... some of the highest rates of cancer??????

the wolf

i do think HIV could hve been created in a lab. im not sure it was exactly what they were going for. maybe it was by "accident". who knows?

crazy world.

Kann

redsdisease wrote:

I'm sorry, but the idea that AIDS was invented by the U.S. government is simply laughable. I'm not saying that they wouldn't have if they could, but the technology wasn't there. Now, thirty years later after incredible scientific advances, that is still out of our reach.

Actually it would be possible now and chances are it was possible then. Creating a virus from scratch is nearly impossible but using a similar virus (aids in other species exists since long ago) and altering it so it can infect humans is totally possible. Now I don't agree on the other hand that they would do it.
The chances that a virus jumps from one specie to another is much higher than the chances to find a whole team of psychopats dedicated to create the most deadly human virus we've seen since a 100 years.

redsdisease

sponger wrote:

And then one remembers the Delta 32 gene, which protected people from the black plague hundreds of years ago and also gives some people today an immunity to AIDS. Was the black plague also a government experiment? Probably not. So, how is it that a naturally occurring gene can fend off an lab-created super virus?

All that the delta-32 gene does, is it codes for ccr5 receptor on the surface of T cells. HIV uses the ccr5 receptor to infect our T cells. People with the mutation in the Delta 32 gene don't express the ccr5 receptor, so they are unable to be infected by HIV. There is no reason why it would matter whether the gene being infected was lab created or not.

That being said, documented cases of AIDS from the sixties make it seem pretty unlikely that it was created in a lab.

sponger

Origin of Aids pt I

pt II

pt III

pt IV

pt V

Pt VI

Larry Zisstans

bayer developed heroin as a cough medicine back in the day.

peace,
lz

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

Americans invented murder

soulsinging

cornnifer wrote:

To be honest, i don't think the idea is that laughable. i don't know how it would have been done, i won't pretend to know what was combined with what, but i do believe it was created in a lab. The story i heard many years ago is that it was "stumbled upon" or created by scientists working on germ warfare. i don't know if its true or not, but i just don't think its all that unthinkable. i'm not generally a conspiracy theorist, but it's not hard for me to believe the AIDS virus was "created".

and then unleashed on africa for what point and purpose? im willing to bet aids was out there for 100 years before we found out about it and it had migrated to the west enough to register as a separate disease with us. prior to lab testing, it wouldn't have looked like a separate disease. it destroys your immune system and you die of something else. to them, it would have just looked like a frail person died of flu or whatever.

Byrnzie

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

I was looking for real clips explaining the history of true U.S state sponsored terrorism

Nicaragua

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicaragua_v._United_States

'The court stated that the US was "in breach of its obligations under customary international law not to use force against another State", "not to intervene in its affairs", "not to violate its sovereignty", "not to interrupt peaceful maritime commerce", and "in breach of its obligations under Article XIX of the Treaty of Friendship, Commerce and Navigation between the Parties signed at Managua on 21 January 1956."

The court had 16 final decisions which it voted upon. In Statement 9, the court stated that the US encouraged human rights violations by the Contras by the manual entitled Operaciones sicologicas en guerra de guerrillas. However, this did not make such acts attributable to the US.

The Court ruled in Nicaragua's favor, but the United States disputes the jurisdiction of the court to hear this case, or to abide by the Court's decision.'

Byrnzie

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

I was looking for real clips explaining the history of true U.S state sponsored terrorism

Panama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5_z-APR05Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JhB5Ipv-mI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m79LpQy1tH0

Byrnzie

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

I was looking for real clips explaining the history of true U.S state sponsored terrorism

Haiti

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-Uzhj1fOIo&feature=related

DriftingByTheStorm

thanks byrnzie.

kinda blows the lid on this theory that the US government is this bening loving force that never involves itself in atrocious plots to murder "innocent" people, huh.