Lindsay Williams: Oil Going to $50 a Barrel, to Break Iran AND the Dollar

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edited September 2008 in A Moving Train
Yup.
Lindsay Williams (who has been right about everything he has "predicted" for several decades now) is on with Alex Jones right now.

He is saying that, along with having received a few new threats that had him scared silent for over a month, that he also has been given more information from one of the "insiders" -- one of his old oil company contacts.

This is what Lindsay is saying:

The current plan is to totally reverse the direction of oil back down to $50 a barrel.

"They" are going to do this in order to "utterly destroy the Middle East".
Because those countries are totally dependent on the price of oil to keep their economies afloat.

He also said that the obverse of this is that they are looking to destroy the dollar in this process too. The mechanism would be that the destabilization of the Middle East would cause THEIR economies so much strain that they could no longer hold on to or purchase more of US Treasury bills.

This flood of treasury securities back in to America will utterly crush the dollar.

He ALSO said that the way they are going to put oil back to $50 is that they are going to open to MASSIVE oil fields (that are currently "unknown") ... one in Indonesia, and one in Russia.

He ALSO said that this fellow said MCCAIN is "their man", and that "something will happen" to "ensure that he wins".

And then this contact said that America will have a "massive financial collapse" with in the next year!

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  • puremagic
    puremagic Posts: 1,907
    1. At $50 a barrel, what if the Middle East decided to turn off their pumps.

    2. Indonesia is one of the most unstable parts of the earth. By time they locate oil and begin drilling, it will probably be hit by a massive earthquake.

    3. Is being dependent upon Russia for oil any better than the Middle East?

    4. I wonder what would ensure a McCain win other than fraud?
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  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    I read the title of this thread and for a second there i was trying to figure out what the fuck Lindsey Lohan knew about the price of a barrel of oil.

    It will be very interesting if any of what he says comes true.
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  • puremagic wrote:
    1. At $50 a barrel, what if the Middle East decided to turn off their pumps.

    2. Indonesia is one of the most unstable parts of the earth. By time they locate oil and begin drilling, it will probably be hit by a massive earthquake.

    3. Is being dependent upon Russia for oil any better than the Middle East?

    4. I wonder what would ensure a McCain win other than fraud?

    1. The point, per Williams, is to utterly cripple the middle east, and Iran specificaly.
    The thinking is probably that the ME countries are so reliant on their oil economy that they can not afford to play bluff by pulling their oil. I'm sure the contingency here is simply to ensure that the added oil infrastructure elsewhere will be enough to keep the markets flooded regardless of what the ME does. Again, this is about breaking every country in the sand. And also to help destroy the dollar, he says.

    2. They already located the oil. The fields are ready to go, so says his sources.
    In fact, the news Lindsay relayed today on Alex's show is actualy news he received himself 7 weeks ago, and has spoken of elsewhere. He says that Fox news announced a month ago or so that the pipelines in Indonesia were starting to flow. He gave the exact day of the report so anyone could go confirm it. He says the second part, Russia, is yet to be announced.

    3. The point here has NOTHING to do with what is best for the United States. It's about what is best for the global ruling class. They want to get rid of the arab menace, and they want to put America back in her place.

    Putting this new oil wealth in to the hands of russian or ex-russian states is deliberate.
    It shifts a balance of power back towards the east. Back towards the old red countries.

    To give you an idea of where this line of thinking comes from , regarding America specificaly, lets go back to the 1800s ...

    London Times editorial:
    “If this mischievous financial policy, which has it’s origin in North America, shall become endurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish it’s own money without cost.
    It will pay off debts and be without debt. It will have all the money necessary to carry on it’s commerce. It will become prosperous without precedent in the history of the world.
    The brains, and wealth of all countries will goto North America. That country must be destroyed or it will destroy every monarchy on the globe”.
    Now obviously the means and the rules of the game have changed since the bankers got the whole world hooked on a cooked-books fiat currency system, but the MO is the same ... if America begins to threaten the global balance of power, and specificaly, if she begins to threaten the vested interests of the banking elite, then she must be checked. Also, you can replace "every monarchy" with "every national socialist state" ... as this is the new true aim, a global socialist union.

    They used this country to get their institutional stranglehold on most of the world, and now that they are done with their imperial attack dog, they need to break her legs and get her to submit.

    4. An incident of "national security", obviously.
    Ariana Huffington (Huffington Post) said it herself on Fox News a few weeks ago, she said "don't think that an incident somewhere in this world, not necessarily america, but somewhere globally, won't remind American's about the primacy of national security, and change the outcome of this election" ... she was VERY clear that something WILL happen, and that it will put national security back in the spot light. She said this would swing it for McCain.

    Now, i hope you didn't need Ms. Ariana to explain that to yuns,
    but its the troof.

    :D
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  • beachdweller
    beachdweller Posts: 1,532
    puremagic wrote:
    1. At $50 a barrel, what if the Middle East decided to turn off their pumps.

    2. Indonesia is one of the most unstable parts of the earth. By time they locate oil and begin drilling, it will probably be hit by a massive earthquake.

    3. Is being dependent upon Russia for oil any better than the Middle East?

    4. I wonder what would ensure a McCain win other than fraud?

    1. we only 18% of our imported oil comes from the middle east. If these massive indonesian and russian oil reserves happen, that could provide, but Indonesia is a muslim country, and if they are unknown, then it'll be 10 yrs minimum from their discovery before they can pump any reasonable amount of oil, and that won't matter if it can't be pumped to a means of massive transport.

    2. agreed

    3. no, but Russia not being beholdent to the middle east could help us politically in pressuring the middle eastern countries we aren't friendly with. If it's enough oil, they can supply to China, which would be even better in some ways. Worse in others.

    4. a McCain win will be bad, regardless of it you are a Nadar, Green, or Democrat. Very very bad....

    IMO
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  • beachdweller
    beachdweller Posts: 1,532
    1. The point, per Williams, is to utterly cripple the middle east, and Iran specificaly.
    The thinking is probably that the ME countries are so reliant on their oil economy that they can not afford to play bluff by pulling their oil. I'm sure the contingency here is simply to ensure that the added oil infrastructure elsewhere will be enough to keep the markets flooded regardless of what the ME does. Again, this is about breaking every country in the sand. And also to help destroy the dollar, he says.

    2. They already located the oil. The fields are ready to go, so says his sources.
    In fact, the news Lindsay relayed today on Alex's show is actualy news he received himself 7 weeks ago, and has spoken of elsewhere. He says that Fox news announced a month ago or so that the pipelines in Indonesia were starting to flow. He gave the exact day of the report so anyone could go confirm it. He says the second part, Russia, is yet to be announced.

    3. The point here has NOTHING to do with what is best for the United States. It's about what is best for the global ruling class. They want to get rid of the arab menace, and they want to put America back in her place.

    Putting this new oil wealth in to the hands of russian or ex-russian states is deliberate.
    It shifts a balance of power back towards the east. Back towards the old red countries.

    To give you an idea of where this line of thinking comes from , regarding America specificaly, lets go back to the 1800s ...

    London Times editorial:

    Now obviously the means and the rules of the game have changed since the bankers got the whole world hooked on a cooked-books fiat currency system, but the MO is the same ... if America begins to threaten the global balance of power, and specificaly, if she begins to threaten the vested interests of the banking elite, then she must be checked. Also, you can replace "every monarchy" with "every national socialist state" ... as this is the new true aim, a global socialist union.

    They used this country to get their institutional stranglehold on most of the world, and now that they are done with their imperial attack dog, they need to break her legs and get her to submit.

    4. An incident of "national security", obviously.
    Ariana Huffington (Huffington Post) said it herself on Fox News a few weeks ago, she said "don't think that an incident somewhere in this world, not necessarily america, but somewhere globally, won't remind American's about the primacy of national security, and change the outcome of this election" ... she was VERY clear that something WILL happen, and that it will put national security back in the spot light. She said this would swing it for McCain.

    Now, i hope you didn't need Ms. Ariana to explain that to yuns,
    but its the troof.

    :D

    so I wonder how long they've known about these new oil reserve areas? Conspiracy theories galore here. What an ugly thought, breaking the middle east will turn half the popular there into active extremists, not sure that's a good thing.
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117

    4. a McCain win will be bad, regardless of it you are a Nadar, Green, or Democrat. Very very bad....

    no doubt
  • so I wonder how long they've known about these new oil reserve areas? Conspiracy theories galore here. What an ugly thought, breaking the middle east will turn half the popular there into active extremists, not sure that's a good thing.

    I don't see too many people arguing against the notion that the oil industry has supressed TECHNOLOGIES, and has deliberately bought up all the refineries, so as to keep the world oil-hungry, and artificialy "scarce".

    In fact, i see libs on here all the time about supressed technology, or rambling about the need for more refineries.

    If they are willing to hold back technology and refinement,
    what makes you think they aren't willing to hold back raw crude in the ground?

    Old Donald Trump was on CNBC last week, and he said himself, "there is NO oil shortage". ... "The world is AWASH in oil." ... "They don't know what to do with all the oil they have!"

    Now, you tell me.
    Whats what here?
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    I don't see too many people arguing against the notion that the oil industry has supressed TECHNOLOGIES, and has deliberately bought up all the refineries, so as to keep the world oil-hungry, and artificialy "scarce".

    In fact, i see libs on here all the time about supressed technology, or rambling about the need for more refineries.

    If they are willing to hold back technology and refinement,
    what makes you think they aren't willing to hold back raw crude in the ground?

    Old Donald Trump was on CNBC last week, and he said himself, "there is NO oil shortage". ... "The world is AWASH in oil." ... "They don't know what to do with all the oil they have!"

    Now, you tell me.
    Whats what here?


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  • my2hands wrote:
    drifting my good buddy... tell me something good going on in the world

    I did.
    I posted a thread about it.
    Bob Chapman thinks the elite have fucked themselves in the face.

    I'd say that's good news, right?

    Also,
    i'm moving in 3 days,
    i can't WAIT to get the fuck out of Georgia,
    and on up to sweet sweet North Cakalaky!

    :D:D:D
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  • Cupofjoe
    Cupofjoe Posts: 557
    my2hands wrote:
    drifting my good buddy... tell me something good going on in the world
    Eddie starts a month long solo tour next week :)
  • Cupofjoe wrote:
    Eddie starts a month long solo tour next week :)

    meh.
    mediocre news at best.
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  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Yup.
    Lindsay Williams (who has been right about everything he has "predicted" for several decades now) is on with Alex Jones right now.
    Can you PM me with Lindsay's numbers for PowerBall this week?
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    ...are those who've helped us.

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  • know1 wrote:
    Can you PM me with Lindsay's numbers for PowerBall this week?

    :rolleyes:
    thanks for playing though.
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  • Personally. I don't think this will ever happen.

    too much greed to just "give it away" so to speak...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Personally. I don't think this will ever happen.

    too much greed to just "give it away" so to speak...

    This is about greed, Roland.
    They want it all. And they must find a way to attempt to stop the Islamic near east from rising to global prominence.

    If that means they have to drop the price of oil back to $50 for a while, i think the trillionaire international banksters can handle it.

    Remember oil was at $80 a barrell but 8 months ago!

    Anyhow,
    this all remains to be seen.

    Its just a bit disconcerting to hear it from Lindsay,
    whose play by plays on the price of oil have historicaly been balls on target.
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    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • This is about greed, Roland.
    They want it all. And they must find a way to attempt to stop the Islamic near east from rising to global prominence.

    If that means they have to drop the price of oil back to $50 for a while, i think the trillionaire international banksters can handle it.

    Remember oil was at $80 a barrell but 8 months ago!

    Anyhow,
    this all remains to be seen.

    Its just a bit disconcerting to hear it from Lindsay,
    whose play by plays on the price of oil have historicaly been balls on target.

    It sure would give me more go go juice time on the water....

    Interesting. It's got a few angles to it.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • beachdweller
    beachdweller Posts: 1,532
    I don't see too many people arguing against the notion that the oil industry has supressed TECHNOLOGIES

    doesn't seem to be a need to argue this without any proof, some facts.

    regardless, I'm not arguing for for the oil industry, but my question about when they knew about the new oil reserves would lead to my next questions about how much Bush and his cronies are involved, what they knew when, and if getting them into office was a part of this, like was stated above about getting McCain into place.
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  • beachdweller
    beachdweller Posts: 1,532
    if Iran get's a nuke or three, it will through a monkey wrench in to the establishments plans.
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  • rocketman
    rocketman Posts: 68
    Yup.
    Lindsay Williams (who has been right about everything he has "predicted" for several decades now) is on with Alex Jones right now.

    He is saying that, along with having received a few new threats that had him scared silent for over a month, that he also has been given more information from one of the "insiders" -- one of his old oil company contacts.

    This is what Lindsay is saying:

    The current plan is to totally reverse the direction of oil back down to $50 a barrel.

    "They" are going to do this in order to "utterly destroy the Middle East".
    Because those countries are totally dependent on the price of oil to keep their economies afloat.

    He also said that the obverse of this is that they are looking to destroy the dollar in this process too. The mechanism would be that the destabilization of the Middle East would cause THEIR economies so much strain that they could no longer hold on to or purchase more of US Treasury bills.

    This flood of treasury securities back in to America will utterly crush the dollar.

    He ALSO said that the way they are going to put oil back to $50 is that they are going to open to MASSIVE oil fields (that are currently "unknown") ... one in Indonesia, and one in Russia.

    He ALSO said that this fellow said MCCAIN is "their man", and that "something will happen" to "ensure that he wins".

    And then this contact said that America will have a "massive financial collapse" with in the next year!

    :eek:

    This has to be the master of all pearl jam board conspiracies. Ok first, who the fuck is THEY!?
  • OutOfBreath
    OutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    Regarding Indonesia, since they withdrew as OPEC-member in May this year on the grounds that they were now net importers of oil, it seems rather unlikely that they have a new big field about to go online. Maybe they'll rejoin later if there is word of a big find, but it takes years to establish oil-fields with any decent output. Also have in mind that new fields increasingly must replace the old ones that go dry or drop in prodution. Also that there aren't many "mega-fields" left, and smaller fields are more expensive than large ones.

    And if "they" really are as powerful as to be able to dictate the price of oil, why do they care at all about what Iran does?

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