Katrina: Two years on...
darkcrow
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So two years on and, from what i have read in reports, little has been done. still a lot of devestation. still a lot of people living in trailers. anything positive going on??
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At the moment though, it escapes me.
I was reading about it this morning, I know they have started work on levee reconstruction and are still about 3 years away from being.... back to pre Katrina standards... (obviously the wetlands need to come back and that takes time and really, honestly they should go to Cat 5 standards) and that's just the levees, I know the water system sucks too.
I was wanting to ask you one, have they decided to fill up MRGO yet?
Also did they ever decide on new building codes, they were squabbling on that when I left last year.
If you know of any building projects going on I'm looking to make another trip over the winter. I'd like to build something this time.
Wasn't there some kind of deadline or something they had put on removing those trailers?? It seems like there just isn't the man power to get a lot done right now.
Cheers RD, keep your head up.
P.
Well, Canadaville is supposedly thriving. It was a village (50 residences) set up by a Canadian industrialist to help ease the burden on New Orleans residents after the flood. About 150 people there are mostly doing well.
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070828/canadaville_story_070828/20070828?hub=World
And cheers to you to, Pac!
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Your thoughts? This was inspired by another thread, but I have a few comments. The Federal Government and FEMA and Bush could have done much, much more...this isn't debatable. But I blame just as much on Louisiana's horrible, horrible excuse for a state government. So much corrpution among the politicians here. It's very sad. First you had Jefferson, then Vitter a while ago. It's pathetic. Then the re-election of Nagin? Are you fucking kidding me? I'm outta here next Spring. It's a great city and the closest to being in Europe without ever going there with the culture and music and so forth, but really it's still quite a mess politically and the infrastructure still needs quite a bit of work. The crime rate is through the roof, and nothing is being done. On the other hand though, I highly suggest everyone come down for 3 days at the end of October for Voodoo Fest. Rage Against The Machine are my only hope now.
Basically, the help from the government was them pissing money down the hole after the fact. I would hate to think what they paid for those trailers. In other words, they are doing what the federal government has always done......throw money at a problem and expect it to get all better.
So they have declared n.o. a disaster zone and everyone knows this and is staying on purpose despite knowing they will be living in a disaster zone for quite possibly the rest of their lives?
May I'm confused or they are confused or both.
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Interesting. Those things are almost the price of a home... in and around the $250,000 range.
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Is that the official consensus or your hypothesis? I don't remember hearing about it in the news...probably the residents haven't either.. I'm guessing.
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Forget about the City of New Orleans itself... what about the people who were and continue to be displaced?
Hail, Hail!!!
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That couldn't hurt.
I have no idea whether this is what is happening--everyone with means getting out. I just think that I would. Start over in, for example, St. Loius or something.
yeah..dump your house..all you have...for not a cent...
easy as pie...
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chumps...
hurricane bitches..
you lost...haha
?!??!?!
am I wrong?
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One of the things about living here right now, especially in my neck of the woods, is that it's gotten real easy to pretend nothing happened. Walk out on to St. Charles? Well, the streetcar isn't running, but everything looks fine. Bus to work downtown, and - at least around my office - things look much as they did before the storm. Head to the French Quarter for a few drinks, talk to tourists and bartenders, and it doesn't seem that much different. Hell, with the French Quarter, I could say it's a lot cleaner. Extend myself beyond my usual circle? Makes me want to cry.
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Yeah I think you are wrong, there are thousands of people who are working every day trying to clean that place up, it's just amazingly vast. People care, all of us here care obviously, there are just a lot of problems and some of which are age old issues coming to roost. It needs Cat 5 standards to be a city that large in that area. Most of the old town is on the high ground, much of the suburbs and neighborhoods are in the low lands, As of today it's going to take until 2010 to rebuild the levee system to pre Katrina/Rita standards (hopefully right this time) and those weren't quite adequate for a hurricane hitting the city. It's miserable to see the devistation especially for people working thier butt off to get thier homes back in neighborhoods that still have so much work to do but at this poing money is committed, it's not really money at this point it's man power and the politicial leadership locally throught nationally obviously ain't great.
It's pretty easy to take shots at everyone and say look no one cares, but I don't think that's the case at all, the governments on various levels are trying, and the Army Corps of Engineers has been working for 2 years but they have to get infrastructure done and dusted before it's really worth sinking more money into the other stuff. It makes more sense to do what the guy in Truthmongers article did, set up shop, let people live rent free as long as they work or are in school let them build thier skills up and then if they want to make a come back do that.
It's heartbreaking to be in the city right now, but it's easy to see the beauty and the appeal of Gentilly and Lakeview underneath the rubble. I don't think it will completely ever come back but in 5 to 10 years people will come back and it will be a lot better. Disasters take time to heal no matter how much money you throw at it. At this point I think physical labor is better than money to send, at the same time, if you care about them go visit. They still have a beautiful town even scarred, they still have some of the best food in the world, and it's still an awesome place to visit and your money will directly help the economy. Americorps and Habitat are all over, I was at Fish Camp with Presbyterian Disaster Assistance in Luling where we worked out of so there are places to go and stay if you would like to work too. They told us it would feel like we weren't making a dent but someones go to do the work and it energizes the locals to see you out there doing work, not to mention they are cool folks and have thier own stories. It takes a team of about 12 people around a week to fully strip a house down to where it can be remediated by borax soda and clorox to be ready to build, then you have to wait on a contractor. There are around 500,000 houses that need to be mucked out so you can see it's a lot of work, just to get that done before any mass building can go on, but people do care, and people are helping it's just a slow process.
The Government will have to redo the water and sewer systems, pumps have to work automatically and be much more efficient than they are now, levees need to be up to cat 5 standards and built to withstand extreme flood pressure levels. MRGO should be filled, 9th Ward should be condemned and turned into a city park, neighborhoods and projects should never have been built in such a dangerous flood area. Wetlands projects to restore the natural storm surge swallowing wetlands have to be begun in earnest. City planning commissions need to ensure all new construction is ready for a 12-15 foot flood..and that's just the physical city part, obviously the people need a little help too.
I have ties to the low country of South Carolina and that culture, I'd never want to see it die because of a hurricane, likewise the city of New Orleans which has such a rich culture and heritage. We all care.
As much as I love where I live if my home and work places were wiped out I would move immediately.
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The number one question everyone is tip toeing around is: Is it humane to rebuild the lower sections of town?
I've yet to see anyone address this question head on. NO cannot move on until this question is addressed.
What do you do with the elderly who have never lived anywhere but NO and have no home now and no family?
What do you do with people who have moved and started a new life but still own property?
What do you do with people who have nothing but refuse to move where they can start a new life?
Is it humane to rebuild the lower sections of town?
This is why I think it's a 50 year process to rebuild NO. There's a generation of people that have to live there lives before NO is back in anyway near to what it was.
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That depends entirely on how many people are involved in the operation.
Construction crews build and repair things at miraculous speed these days.
Especially in America.
The consensus seems to be not enough effort is being made. Are you saying there is....but somehow it's just different?
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It would seem the place is inhabitable then.
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This is true. Remember when LA had the earthquake ? They rebuilt significant portions of the highway infrastructure in 6 weeks. (6 weeks !!). Hmm, was there a conscious gov't effort in LA that is lacking in NO ??
Exactly. I live Uptown and work in the Quarter. I don't really travel outside that area because this is where the city is normal. Anywhere else and it's still August 30, 2005.