Ruling: Gay couples should have the same rights as hetrosexul couples

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  • Pearl Jam and toast
    Pearl Jam and toast Posts: 4,475
    know1 wrote:
    It's flawed on so many levels. For one thing, marriage is not a "right".
    When someone tries to take it away for no reason other than their own prejudices it becomes a right.
    Come on pilgrim you know he loves you..

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  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    know1 wrote:
    It's flawed on so many levels. For one thing, marriage is not a "right".

    Its not the marriage - its the treatment of a couple... You either already know that or don't want to...

    The right to act as a relative in a hospital - file a joint tax return - you know - just to be treated like everyone else - whether or not they act just like you - or believe in the same things you do... just fair treatment..
  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    know1 wrote:
    You're totally missing the point. I'm saying the stupid, childish arguments on BOTH sides of this issue don't make any logical sense.

    I don't care what other people do with regard to this issue or how they live.

    maybe I did miss the point....
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    hippiemom wrote:
    But they could not marry the person they were in love with, like everyone else.

    What if the person I'm in love with won't marry me? Marriage is not a right.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Abuskedti wrote:
    Its not the marriage - its the treatment of a couple... You either already know that or don't want to...

    The right to act as a relative in a hospital - file a joint tax return - you know - just to be treated like everyone else - whether or not they act just like you - or believe in the same things you do... just fair treatment..

    Ever heard of "power of attorney"? It can be granted right now...today....
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • Pearl Jam and toast
    Pearl Jam and toast Posts: 4,475
    know1 wrote:
    What if the person I'm in love with won't marry me? Marriage is not a right.
    thats the worst argument yet.
    Come on pilgrim you know he loves you..

    http://www.wishlistfoundation.org

    Oh my, they dropped the leash.



    Morgan Freeman/Clint Eastwood 08' for President!

    "Make our day"
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Pearl Jam and toast wrote:
    When someone tries to take it away for no reason other than their own prejudices it becomes a right.

    Oh really now? That's the definition of a right? They never had it so it can't be taken away. Furthermore, people can oppose it for reasons other than prejudices.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Pearl Jam and toast wrote:
    thats the worst argument yet.

    I think it's one of the best. Maybe it's just over your head. How can something be a right that involves the consent of someone else?
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    know1 wrote:
    Ever heard of "power of attorney"? It can be granted right now...today....

    Yes I have heard of them... However I don't need one for every think I need to do with my family - which includes my wife - and her family ....

    Gays.. need to get a lawyer and spend time and money guessing what could possibly happen to them - and draw powers of attorney? because they don't think like you? errr they don't fuck like you.. and guess what - I know you are adamantly opposed to abortion - these people are having sex that will not result in an unwanted pregnancy - that should be better to you than a young man and woman having sex - before they are ready for children..

    sorry - I really muddied it up now... just that I think you have such tunnelvision - I get frustrated.
  • brainofPJ
    brainofPJ Posts: 2,361
    gays disgust me


    Esther's here and she's sick?

    hi Esther, now we are all going to be sick, thanks
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Abuskedti wrote:
    Yes I have heard of them... However I don't need one for every think I need to do with my family - which includes my wife - and her family ....

    Gays.. need to get a lawyer and spend time and money guessing what could possibly happen to them - and draw powers of attorney? because they don't think like you? errr they don't fuck like you.. and guess what - I know you are adamantly opposed to abortion - these people are having sex that will not result in an unwanted pregnancy - that should be better to you than a young man and woman having sex - before they are ready for children..

    sorry - I really muddied it up now... just that I think you have such tunnelvision - I get frustrated.

    Again, you jump to conclusions far too quickly my friend. I think the tunnelvision comment could possibly be reserved for the mirror. I have nothing against homosexuals and their unions. I have big problems with their arguments for legal marriage...and I also have big problems with the other sides arguments against legal marriage. I'm not so transparent or shallow as you assume.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    know1 wrote:
    Again, you jump to conclusions far too quickly my friend. I think the tunnelvision comment could possibly be reserved for the mirror. I have nothing against homosexuals and their unions. I have big problems with their arguments for legal marriage...and I also have big problems with the other sides arguments against legal marriage. I'm not so transparent or shallow as you assume.

    I see.. so this is more about the intricacies of the english language. You prefer a strict narrow sort of tunnelish use of the word marriage - it can be the same as marriage - cept if its two boys or two girls its called civil union and if its boy girl or girl boy its marriage?
  • YellowDoors
    YellowDoors Posts: 26
    My marriage is not effected by anyone elses marriage and/or union. If it ever is, then I need to work on my marriage. I married at 17, I am 35 now.

    Equal rights for everyone.

    50% divorce rate!!! WOW!
    Nelluc and Kcalb
  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    YellowDoors wrote:
    My marriage is not effected by anyone elses marriage and/or union. If it ever is, then I need to work on my marriage. I married at 17, I am 35 now.

    Equal rights for everyone.

    50% divorce rate!!! WOW!

    I'm an expert too .. I've been married twice.. not married now :(

    sigh.. I'm a two time loser!

    got wonderful kids though...
  • YellowDoors
    YellowDoors Posts: 26
    Abuskedti wrote:
    I'm an expert too .. I've been married twice.. not married now :(

    sigh.. I'm a two time loser!

    got wonderful kids though...



    I don't have any advice, I am doing good to live my own life here.

    Kids are wonderful sleep snatchers! LOL

    Got one 15 yr old myself. Who can't stand PJ...I tell him one day you will listen and understand. I am feeding you good music until then....LOL
    Nelluc and Kcalb
  • decides2dream
    decides2dream Posts: 14,977
    *applauds*

    i look forward to the day that it is legal in all 50 states, and no one gives it a second thought, as well it should be. how two other people, male/female, male/male, female/female...choose to live their lives is none of my business, and i thoroughly believe they are as deserving of the 'rights' that my husband and i share as a married couple. the legalities of marriage are just that, a legal issue...all else....is your own personal beliefs, and ALL citizens who are legal, consenting adults, should have access to whatever benefits there is to a legal marriage.
    Stay with me...
    Let's just breathe...


    I am myself like you somehow


  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    YellowDoors wrote:
    I don't have any advice, I am doing good to live my own life here.

    Kids are wonderful sleep snatchers! LOL

    Got one 15 yr old myself. Who can't stand PJ...I tell him one day you will listen and understand. I am feeding you good music until then....LOL

    That is one thing I did right.. My twin 18 year old boys are both Pearl Jam fans...

    My daughter - 10.. not so much.
  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    YellowDoors wrote:
    I don't have any advice, I am doing good to live my own life here.

    Kids are wonderful sleep snatchers! LOL

    Got one 15 yr old myself. Who can't stand PJ...I tell him one day you will listen and understand. I am feeding you good music until then....LOL

    It was all my fault.. I was too focused on the kids... soon I'll try again with all my energy... Well, my baby girl will still consume me.. maybe I should wait till she is 18...
  • chopitdown
    chopitdown Posts: 2,222
    darkcrow wrote:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6083744.stm

    New Jersey court backs gay rights

    Only one US state has allowed same-sex marriages so far
    The US state of New Jersey's Supreme Court has ruled that gay couples are entitled to the same rights as heterosexual couples.
    But the court says it is for the legislature to decide whether the state will honour gay marriage or some other form of civil union.

    Lawmakers have been given six months to decide whether to change marriage laws.

    I'm glad that the Supreme Court is leaving it up to the will of the legislature rather than decreeing it from the bench. While I don't fully agree with the view, i think that this is a perfect example of when the legislative process needs to be followed, not the judicial process of mandation. Let the people decide...or at least let their representatives decide.
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  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    know1 wrote:
    What if the person I'm in love with won't marry me? Marriage is not a right.
    If the person you're in love with won't marry you, it's not the government standing in your way.
    "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." ~ MLK, 1963

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