stop the ignorance

chopitdown

El_Kabong wrote:

i don't think it's personal satisfaction or making up for daddies failure...i think it's more of control of one of the biggest oil reserves in the world. pnac mentioned control of iraq, it's resources and the region back in 2000.

midge decter <member of pnac, on a radio show in 2004>:

“We’re not in the Middle East to bring sweetness and light to the world. We’re there to get something we and our friends in Europe depend on. Namely, oil.”

I agree, i don't think it's either but it seemed that Ahnimus did; i was going to be surprised if anyone actually thought Bush sent the troops over to die for his own sick pleasure.

I def think the resources played a part in the war. Esp, with the PNAC connection. Esp a resource like oil that goes into a ton of things we consume in America and Europe. But I won't say that it was strictly for oil

Ahnimus

chopitdown wrote:

I agree, i don't think it's either but it seemed that Ahnimus did; i was going to be surprised if anyone actually thought Bush sent the troops over to die for his own sick pleasure.

I def think the resources played a part in the war. Esp, with the PNAC connection. Esp a resource like oil that goes into a ton of things we consume in America and Europe. But I won't say that it was strictly for oil

It was probably for both. I think Bush Sr. had an influence on things.

know1

None of that even matters anymore. What matters now is not turning our backs when the country is in chaos.

IWillLiveForeve

darkcrow wrote:

For some reason people still think that iraq/iraqis were involved in 9/11. Something that disturbed me was a girl said something to the effect of "iraqis killed americans on 9/11 so our troops are there to kill them." (not exact quote but the jist). no matter what your feelings are on the war we should make sure people know the facts. now i have not read anything saying iraqis were involved so please... make sure other people to claim they were are told the truth.

Actually, depending on how you are defining 'iraqis' being involved, they were. Muhammed Atha, the lead suicidal fuck, was an Iraqi. Now, did they support it as a cause, they being Iraq, that is another question. I'm sorry, did you want to go that deep?

El_Kabong

IWillLiveForeve wrote:

Actually, depending on how you are defining 'iraqis' being involved, they were. Muhammed Atha, the lead suicidal fuck, was an Iraqi. Now, did they support it as a cause, they being Iraq, that is another question. I'm sorry, did you want to go that deep?

no he wasn't

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_Atta

Atta was born on September 1, 1968 in Kafr el Sheikh, a city in the Nile Delta in Egypt,[1] and also carried a Saudi passport. He grew up in a strict family in Giza, a suburb of Cairo, Egypt[1]. Atta's father wished his children to be all well-educated. Since he was a child, Atta spent most of his time staying home and studying. He had an excellent performance on his study and graduated with a degree in architecture from Cairo University. He was apparently not particularly religious during this period.

Atta then moved to Germany, where he was registered as a student of urban planning at the Technical University of Hamburg-Harburg in Hamburg from 1993 to 1999. Th

Ahnimus

Wasn't Atta in FBI custody prior to 9/11 and weren't the funds coming from the Pakistani Intelligence?

IWillLiveForeve

El_Kabong wrote:

no he wasn't

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_Atta

Atta was born on September 1, 1968 in Kafr el Sheikh, a city in the Nile Delta in Egypt,[1] and also carried a Saudi passport. He grew up in a strict family in Giza, a suburb of Cairo, Egypt[1]. Atta's father wished his children to be all well-educated. Since he was a child, Atta spent most of his time staying home and studying. He had an excellent performance on his study and graduated with a degree in architecture from Cairo University. He was apparently not particularly religious during this period.

Atta then moved to Germany, where he was registered as a student of urban planning at the Technical University of Hamburg-Harburg in Hamburg from 1993 to 1999. Th

Might want to check country of suspected residence post 2000.

El_Kabong

IWillLiveForeve wrote:

Might want to check country of suspected residence post 2000.

and that makes him an iraqi for being suspected of living in the country for a few months.....? if you're refering to the talk of him meeting w/ iraqi intel or military that was debunked by the fbi who had him under surveilance in the us at the times of the supposed meeting

if i move to canada for a few months does that make me canadian? no

do you have anything stating he lived in iraq?

El_Kabong

Ahnimus wrote:

Wasn't Atta in FBI custody prior to 9/11 and weren't the funds coming from the Pakistani Intelligence?

yes, the head of the isi wired him money up until a little before 9/11

Pearl Jam and toast

The Illinoisemakers wrote:

Is this post really necessary? You heard some idiot girl say that when? I think people around here are past that issue Iraq had no direct connection to 9/11. Yes we get it, I haven't heard anyone around here argue that for awhile. So, why bring it up again?

people over 25 years old maybe.

I'm in high school and I wouldn't trust even 1/100 of those people to have a half intelligent political discussion.

macgyver06

darkcrow wrote:

For some reason people still think that iraq/iraqis were involved in 9/11. Something that disturbed me was a girl said something to the effect of "iraqis killed americans on 9/11 so our troops are there to kill them." (not exact quote but the jist). no matter what your feelings are on the war we should make sure people know the facts. now i have not read anything saying iraqis were involved so please... make sure other people to claim they were are told the truth.

ive noticed even adults are still having trouble distinguishing fact from opinion on this board.

shocking!