stop the ignorance
darkcrow
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For some reason people still think that iraq/iraqis were involved in 9/11. Something that disturbed me was a girl said something to the effect of "iraqis killed americans on 9/11 so our troops are there to kill them." (not exact quote but the jist). no matter what your feelings are on the war we should make sure people know the facts. now i have not read anything saying iraqis were involved so please... make sure other people to claim they were are told the truth.
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i've heard idiots saying that recently. there are loads of people who still buy that shit. it might not be so much of an issue on the board, but we can vent here if we choose to, right?
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explain,...
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In an indirect way.
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Yea, your forgiven. It's barely related to the topic, but very real.
Bush sends Americans over there to get blowed up for his sick personal satisfaction.
can the title of this thread be applied to your last statement?
Wow that is a really stupid statement. Maybe we need to stop the ignorance on that issue as well.
I'll give it a shot.
So, I was talking to this guy I work with, his name is Michael and he is a biology major with a degree in automotive engineering. He tells me he doesn't really have a passion for biology, which makes it difficult for him to chew through it. But his family is a long line of academics and he feels he has to get 5 or 6 degrees just to live up to his family name.
Bush Sr. had a deal with Iraq and wanted to topple Saddam. His son wanted to do what his dad couldn't and carry on the family legacy. So he made shit up to send American soldiers over there to get Saddam. It's for his own satisfaction. It's certainly not helping Iraqi people or American people. Part of the Nazish motivation was to create the myth indirectly that Iraq had something to do with 9/11, by using 9/11 as an excuse to go into Iraq.
Great theory, but it's based on what? You spoke to Michael, but did you have a sit down with W, and come to your conclusion after that?
Uhh, no. You have a good point there. Do you have an alternative theory?
Why do you think Bush went to war with Iraq knowing that the evidence he had was flawed. If he didn't know, who did? The director of the FBI knew about it. Why were there so many unfounded claims about Iraq. Why did this happen in the wake of 9/11? The actual reasons used by the Bush Administration had nothing to do with 9/11. Collin Powell amongst others urged against wars in Iraq and Afghanistan simultaneously. Why the sudden need and desire to march into Iraq?
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trying to overthrow saddam to make up for daddies failure is a far cry from sending people over there to get blown up for someones sick personal satisfaction.
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the bad idea or me befallen by it?
i don't think it's personal satisfaction or making up for daddies failure...i think it's more of control of one of the biggest oil reserves in the world. pnac mentioned control of iraq, it's resources and the region back in 2000.
midge decter <member of pnac, on a radio show in 2004>:
“We’re not in the Middle East to bring sweetness and light to the world. We’re there to get something we and our friends in Europe depend on. Namely, oil.”
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
I agree, i don't think it's either but it seemed that Ahnimus did; i was going to be surprised if anyone actually thought Bush sent the troops over to die for his own sick pleasure.
I def think the resources played a part in the war. Esp, with the PNAC connection. Esp a resource like oil that goes into a ton of things we consume in America and Europe. But I won't say that it was strictly for oil
It was probably for both. I think Bush Sr. had an influence on things.
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Actually, depending on how you are defining 'iraqis' being involved, they were. Muhammed Atha, the lead suicidal fuck, was an Iraqi. Now, did they support it as a cause, they being Iraq, that is another question. I'm sorry, did you want to go that deep?
no he wasn't
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_Atta
Atta was born on September 1, 1968 in Kafr el Sheikh, a city in the Nile Delta in Egypt,[1] and also carried a Saudi passport. He grew up in a strict family in Giza, a suburb of Cairo, Egypt[1]. Atta's father wished his children to be all well-educated. Since he was a child, Atta spent most of his time staying home and studying. He had an excellent performance on his study and graduated with a degree in architecture from Cairo University. He was apparently not particularly religious during this period.
Atta then moved to Germany, where he was registered as a student of urban planning at the Technical University of Hamburg-Harburg in Hamburg from 1993 to 1999. Th
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
Might want to check country of suspected residence post 2000.
and that makes him an iraqi for being suspected of living in the country for a few months.....? if you're refering to the talk of him meeting w/ iraqi intel or military that was debunked by the fbi who had him under surveilance in the us at the times of the supposed meeting
if i move to canada for a few months does that make me canadian? no
do you have anything stating he lived in iraq?
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
yes, the head of the isi wired him money up until a little before 9/11
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
I'm in high school and I wouldn't trust even 1/100 of those people to have a half intelligent political discussion.
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