stop the ignorance

darkcrow

For some reason people still think that iraq/iraqis were involved in 9/11. Something that disturbed me was a girl said something to the effect of "iraqis killed americans on 9/11 so our troops are there to kill them." (not exact quote but the jist). no matter what your feelings are on the war we should make sure people know the facts. now i have not read anything saying iraqis were involved so please... make sure other people to claim they were are told the truth.

The Illinoisemakers

Is this post really necessary? You heard some idiot girl say that when? I think people around here are past that issue Iraq had no direct connection to 9/11. Yes we get it, I haven't heard anyone around here argue that for awhile. So, why bring it up again?

sonicreducer

The Illinoisemakers wrote:

Is this post really necessary? You heard some idiot girl say that when? I think people around here are past that issue Iraq had no direct connection to 9/11. Yes we get it, I haven't heard anyone around here argue that for awhile. So, why bring it up again?

i've heard idiots saying that recently. there are loads of people who still buy that shit. it might not be so much of an issue on the board, but we can vent here if we choose to, right?

Ahnimus

Americans are killing Americans in Iraq.

sonicreducer

Ahnimus wrote:

Americans are killing Americans in Iraq.

explain,...

Ahnimus

sonicreducer wrote:

explain,...

http://www.killsometime.com/Video/video.asp?ID=748

In an indirect way.

Ahnimus

More accurately, the Bush Administration is killing Americans in Iraq.

sonicreducer

Ahnimus wrote:

http://www.killsometime.com/Video/video.asp?ID=748

In an indirect way.

did you mean to send the oprah link? forgive me for not getting it,...

Ahnimus

sonicreducer wrote:

did you mean to send the oprah link? forgive me for not getting it,...

Yea, your forgiven. It's barely related to the topic, but very real.

Bush sends Americans over there to get blowed up for his sick personal satisfaction.

chopitdown

Ahnimus wrote:

Yea, your forgiven. It's barely related to the topic, but very real.

Bush sends Americans over there to get blowed up for his sick personal satisfaction.

can the title of this thread be applied to your last statement?

The Illinoisemakers

Ahnimus wrote:

Yea, your forgiven. It's barely related to the topic, but very real.

Bush sends Americans over there to get blowed up for his sick personal satisfaction.

Wow that is a really stupid statement. Maybe we need to stop the ignorance on that issue as well.

Ahnimus

chopitdown wrote:

can the title of this thread be applied to your last statement?

I'll give it a shot.

So, I was talking to this guy I work with, his name is Michael and he is a biology major with a degree in automotive engineering. He tells me he doesn't really have a passion for biology, which makes it difficult for him to chew through it. But his family is a long line of academics and he feels he has to get 5 or 6 degrees just to live up to his family name.

Bush Sr. had a deal with Iraq and wanted to topple Saddam. His son wanted to do what his dad couldn't and carry on the family legacy. So he made shit up to send American soldiers over there to get Saddam. It's for his own satisfaction. It's certainly not helping Iraqi people or American people. Part of the Nazish motivation was to create the myth indirectly that Iraq had something to do with 9/11, by using 9/11 as an excuse to go into Iraq.

The Illinoisemakers

Ahnimus wrote:

I'll give it a shot.

So, I was talking to this guy I work with, his name is Michael and he is a biology major with a degree in automotive engineering. He tells me he doesn't really have a passion for biology, which makes it difficult for him to chew through it. But his family is a long line of academics and he feels he has to get 5 or 6 degrees just to live up to his family name.

Bush Sr. had a deal with Iraq and wanted to topple Saddam. His son wanted to do what his dad couldn't and carry on the family legacy. So he made shit up to send American soldiers over there to get Saddam. It's for his own satisfaction. It's certainly not helping Iraqi people or American people. Part of the Nazish motivation was to create the myth indirectly that Iraq had something to do with 9/11, by using 9/11 as an excuse to go into Iraq.

Great theory, but it's based on what? You spoke to Michael, but did you have a sit down with W, and come to your conclusion after that?

Ahnimus

The Illinoisemakers wrote:

Great theory, but it's based on what? You spoke to Michael, but did you have a sit down with W, and come to your conclusion after that?

Uhh, no. You have a good point there. Do you have an alternative theory?

Why do you think Bush went to war with Iraq knowing that the evidence he had was flawed. If he didn't know, who did? The director of the FBI knew about it. Why were there so many unfounded claims about Iraq. Why did this happen in the wake of 9/11? The actual reasons used by the Bush Administration had nothing to do with 9/11. Collin Powell amongst others urged against wars in Iraq and Afghanistan simultaneously. Why the sudden need and desire to march into Iraq?

sponger

It's just what people do when they are left in control of the world's most powerful army. Bush wanted to push the button on a bad guy, and so he did. Meanwhile, a whole new source of oil will eventually be brought to the market. He probably expected that oil to be available sooner. I don't think anyone had planned for the insurgency to reach the magnitude that it has.

chopitdown

Ahnimus wrote:

I'll give it a shot.

So, I was talking to this guy I work with, his name is Michael and he is a biology major with a degree in automotive engineering. He tells me he doesn't really have a passion for biology, which makes it difficult for him to chew through it. But his family is a long line of academics and he feels he has to get 5 or 6 degrees just to live up to his family name.

Bush Sr. had a deal with Iraq and wanted to topple Saddam. His son wanted to do what his dad couldn't and carry on the family legacy. So he made shit up to send American soldiers over there to get Saddam. It's for his own satisfaction. It's certainly not helping Iraqi people or American people. Part of the Nazish motivation was to create the myth indirectly that Iraq had something to do with 9/11, by using 9/11 as an excuse to go into Iraq.

trying to overthrow saddam to make up for daddies failure is a far cry from sending people over there to get blown up for someones sick personal satisfaction.

harmless_little_f***

darkcrow wrote:

For some reason people still think that iraq/iraqis were involved in 9/11. Something that disturbed me was a girl said something to the effect of "iraqis killed americans on 9/11 so our troops are there to kill them." (not exact quote but the jist). no matter what your feelings are on the war we should make sure people know the facts. now i have not read anything saying iraqis were involved so please... make sure other people to claim they were are told the truth.

Did you know Polar Bears are the cause of global warming?

darkcrow

harmless_little_f*** wrote:

Did you know Polar Bears are the cause of global warming?

i thought it was the care bears

harmless_little_f***

darkcrow wrote:

i thought it was the care bears

You'd think so, wouldn't you. But no. Actually, the Polar Bears are melting all the ice caps. Bloody Polar Bears.

MCG

darkcrow wrote:

For some reason people still think that iraq/iraqis were involved in 9/11. Something that disturbed me was a girl said something to the effect of "iraqis killed americans on 9/11 so our troops are there to kill them." (not exact quote but the jist). no matter what your feelings are on the war we should make sure people know the facts. now i have not read anything saying iraqis were involved so please... make sure other people to claim they were are told the truth.

The North American media thrives on preaching ignorance and fear. The 'facts' do not always make 'good' news stories.

El_Kabong

chopitdown wrote:

trying to overthrow saddam to make up for daddies failure is a far cry from sending people over there to get blown up for someones sick personal satisfaction.

i don't think it's personal satisfaction or making up for daddies failure...i think it's more of control of one of the biggest oil reserves in the world. pnac mentioned control of iraq, it's resources and the region back in 2000.

midge decter <member of pnac, on a radio show in 2004>:

“We’re not in the Middle East to bring sweetness and light to the world. We’re there to get something we and our friends in Europe depend on. Namely, oil.”