Obama says...

dmitry

rational ignorance

it's still more practical to learn other things where i live

anotherclone

unsung wrote:

... your kids should speak Spanish.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZprtPat1Vk


I bet he can't wait to tell that to the racist group La Raza when he meets them later this week.

I can't access youtube from my work, but I am familiar with the statement you seem to be talking about. I can't tell, does the youtube clip also state the entire quote?

I believe Obama carries on to say:

"We should understand that our young people, if you have a foreign language, that is a powerful tool to get a job. You are so much more employable. You can be part of international business. So we should be emphasizing foreign languages in our schools from an early age, because children will actually learn a foreign language easier when they're 5, or 6, or 7 than when they're 46, like me."

would you feel better if he had said you should learn French?

Its Evolution Baby

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

I don't support politicians deliberately misleading groups of voters in order to get votes and then once in office, abandons those promises. Do you? It's okay to lie and misrepresent yourself in order to gain power? Really?? I wonder what kind of leader we will get in someone who pushes aside integrity and honesty to sell himself as something he isn't?

All they have to do on the campaign trail is be honest about themselves. They don't have to stay home for that.

AND how can you be sure which group is the one being mislead?

The campaign trail is a slippery slope because you're trying to win an election. That will take the majority to vote for you. That also means trying to convince two opposite sides to vote for you for example Labor Unions and CEO's opposed to Unions.

That's why I don't really pay attention to what is said on the campaign trail. I feel the debates is where they lay out there true policies to the people and that is what we should hold them to.

I also feel that in the digital age bits and pieces of speeches are taken from the campaign trail to prove one sides argument without publishing the full speech. So I just ignore the campaign trail completely.

unsung

LikeAnOcean wrote:

Why? Because you're lazy?

Nothing wrong with learning a second language.. Only reason I don't speak Spanish is because I'm lazy.

Easy there tiger.

I took four years of Spanish, only because they stopped offering German and I wouldn't take French. I'm now taking Polish and Russian, plus I can hold a decent conversation in Estonian and Latvian.

So get off the high horse.

I think everyone should learn another language, if they so choose to. I don't need some empty suit telling me that my kids (if I had any) should learn Spanish.

unsung

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

I don't support politicians deliberately misleading groups of voters in order to get votes and then once in office, abandons those promises. Do you? It's okay to lie and misrepresent yourself in order to gain power? Really?? I wonder what kind of leader we will get in someone who pushes aside integrity and honesty to sell himself as something he isn't?

All they have to do on the campaign trail is be honest about themselves. They don't have to stay home for that.

AND how can you be sure which group is the one being mislead?

***claps***

unsung

Its Evolution Baby wrote:

You're right.

How dare they campaign for votes. Politicians should just announce there candidacy then stay at home and hope for the best on election day.

Educate yourself on La Raza, what it means, and then we can talk.

Its Evolution Baby

unsung wrote:

Educate yourself on La Raza, what it means, and then we can talk.

I do know what La Raza means and there is no evidence that they promote illegal immigration or separatist behavior, just rumors spread from select Conservatives.

And it is a national organization so of course Obama and McCain would campaign to them them because if one of them didn't they risk losing the Latino vote.

http://www.nclr.org/ has more info on the organization.

acoustic guy

goo wrote:

learning other languages is fun and educational, but......

I shouldn't have to press "1" for English.

Hahahahaha Fucking A!!!!!
Man that pisses me off! In my own country non the less.
Children should learn other languages, It can only help but to make everything in America double labeled....fuck that.

I was trying to put together a toy for my daughter the other day and I could not find the instructions that were in english! Honest to god, it took me five minutes to find them. WTF??

acoustic guy

yoke wrote:

This is pretty cool, I found this online.
http://www.nvtc.gov/lotw


Here is a breakdown of what is spoken in the US according to Cenus.

215,423,557 82% English
46,951,595 18% All languages other than English combined
28,101,052 10% Spanish or Spanish Creole
2,022,143 0.77% Chinese
1,643,838 0.63% French (incl. Patois, Cajun)
1,383,442 0.53% German
1,224,241 0.47% Tagalog
1,009,627 0.38% Vietnamese
1,008,370 0.38% Italian
894,063 0.34% Korean
706,242 0.27% Russian
667,414 0.25% Polish
614,582 0.23% Arabic
564,630 0.22% Portuguese or Portuguese Creole
477,997 0.18% Japanese
453,368 0.17% French Creole
418,505 0.16% African languages
365,436 0.14% Greek
317,057 0.12% Hindi
312,085 0.12% Persian
262,900 0.10% Urdu
235,988 0.09% Gujarathi
233,865 0.09% Serbo-Croatian
203,466 0.08% Other Native North American languages
202,708 0.08% Armenian
195,374 0.07% Hebrew
181,889 0.07% Mon-Khmer, Cambodian
178,945 0.07% Yiddish
178,014 0.07% Navajo
168,063 0.06% Miao, Hmong
162,252 0.06% Scandinavian languages
149,303 0.06% Laotian
120,464 0.05% Thai
117,973 0.04% Hungarian

I don't see Jive or Ebonics???
Whats up with that? :D:D
Racist Cenus

Rhinocerous Surprise

acoustic guy wrote:

Hahahahaha Fucking A!!!!!
Man that pisses me off! In my own country non the less.
Children should learn other languages, It can only help but to make everything in America double labeled....fuck that.

I was trying to put together a toy for my daughter the other day and I could not find the instructions that were in english! Honest to god, it took me five minutes to find them. WTF??

Spanish, Italian, and any other language are as native to America as English is.

ajedigecko

i wonder how many legal immigrants can already speak english? i do not know but would venture to guess, quite a few......or not.

ajedigecko

i know for a fact that if i were wanting to move to mexico.........i would learn spanish.

acoustic guy

ajedigecko wrote:

i wonder how many legal immigrants can already speak english? i do not know but would venture to guess, quite a few......or not.

From my experience with many mexican workers, the woman choose NOT to speak english. The smart men do so they can earn more but the women will not learn it. The ones I have spoken to will not even give a straight answer why either.

acoustic guy

Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:

Spanish, Italian, and any other language are as native to America as English is.

What? I am not gonna even comment on that stupid post.

ajedigecko

acoustic guy wrote:

From my experience with many mexican workers, the woman choose NOT to speak english. The smart men do so they can earn more but the women will not learn it. The ones I have spoken to will not even give a straight answer why either.

the men do not want their women to learn so they can...............you know.

Rhinocerous Surprise

acoustic guy wrote:

What? I am not gonna even comment on that stupid post.

What's so stupid about it? They're all languages brought there from overseas. Hence: equally native.

acoustic guy

Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:

What's so stupid about it? They're all languages brought there from overseas. Hence: equally native.

Everytime the topic comes up about illigals or language in america, the response is always "well americans are all immigrants."
That is so ridiculous. Once you are born in America you are then Native Americans. Your national language is English.

ajedigecko

acoustic guy wrote:

Everytime the topic comes up about illigals or language in america, the response is always "well americans are all immigrants."
That is so ridiculous. Once you are born in America you are then Native Americans. Your national language is English.

agreed......i have a friend that used to label herself as african-american. i asked her, can you tell me what tribe your lineage descends from? she said no.

now she says that she is american.

Rhinocerous Surprise

acoustic guy wrote:

Everytime the topic comes up about illigals or language in america, the response is always "well americans are all immigrants."
That is so ridiculous. Once you are born in America you are then Native Americans. Your national language is English.

English is the national language because it suited the majority. If the situation has changed, and there's enough demand for Spanish to be a little more widespread, is pressing one extra button on your phone that big a deal for you? I'm not saying it should be a required language in schools, but are you really that set on English being the only option?

acoustic guy

ajedigecko wrote:

agreed......i have a friend that used to label herself as african-american. i asked her, can you tell me what tribe your lineage descends from? she said no.

now she says that she is american.

For awhile, it was racist to say "black people" you were supposed to say african american. That makes no sense. They are american, if ya wanna get technical then they are black americans.