The amount of legal fees involved here probably outweighed whatever the robbers stole. Listening to the 911 tape is really haunting. This person was so excited to have the opportunity to shoot the robbers.
Well if they have the tv then shoot them in the kneecaps and torture them a while before killing them.
Joe Horn should be locked up for the rest of his pathetic life.
I strongly disagree. I'm having a seriously fucking hard time feeling sorry for these guys. It should be known that if you decide to help yourself to somebody elses stuff that THEY worked to pay for... that you put your life in your hands.
Thieves are scum... the lowest kind. Fuck em! This guy probably would have been robbed the following night... and probably killed in the process. These fuckers don't just do it once ya know.
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I strongly disagree. I'm having a seriously fucking hard time feeling sorry for these guys. It should be known that if you decide to help yourself to somebody elses stuff that THEY worked to pay for... that you put your life in your hands.
Thieves are scum... the lowest kind. Fuck em! This guy probably would have been robbed the following night... and probably killed in the process. These fuckers don't just do it once ya know.
Jeebus! I think there are a bunch of sensitive folks in this pit that don't like me because I talk about being a gun owner. I hope to hell you don't own any guns, Helen, despite otherwise enjoying your personality. I once got into this petty theft cycle as a young guy where I would steal something like a candy bar from a store just to see if I could get away with it. Would you have been just as excited to read about a store owner blowing me away over a candy bar??? I'm sorry, some transgressions just don't rise to the level of shooting someone in the back with a shotgun especially when the police are already on the way. Like I said, if you have to get involved, control the situation until the police arrive and if you have to shoot, take out their legs. Now, if they have guns and are threatening you, I don't care, go Rambo on their asses.
I'm surprised at how blood thirsty some of you are. Maybe you haven't seen what gun shot wounds look like up close.
And I'm the gun nut?!?
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I strongly disagree. I'm having a seriously fucking hard time feeling sorry for these guys. It should be known that if you decide to help yourself to somebody elses stuff that THEY worked to pay for... that you put your life in your hands.
Thieves are scum... the lowest kind. Fuck em! This guy probably would have been robbed the following night... and probably killed in the process. These fuckers don't just do it once ya know.
What if a 3rd person with a gun (either walking by or a neighbor) saw this guy gun down two people. If he didn't know the two guys were burglars, would he be right for using his own gun to shoot Joe Horn? It seems simple to me that deadly force is not the appropriate reaction for breaking and entering.
Thieves are scum... the lowest kind. Fuck em! This guy probably would have been robbed the following night... and probably killed in the process. These fuckers don't just do it once ya know.
Kill 'em all... next kill everyone who does drugs, because you know some of those people eventually will still for their habit, and therefore by your logic, will probably kill, so we might as well shoot them all now.
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Kill 'em all... next kill everyone who does drugs, because you know some of those people eventually will still for their habit, and therefore by your logic, will probably kill, so we might as well shoot them all now.
I was also thinking why stop there? You just know the guy that cut you off in traffic without even signaling is just going to do it again. Why not drag him out of his car at the next intersection and shoot him in the face? I'm also setting up land mines on my lawn as I'm tired of neighborhood kids trespassing on my property to retrieve their frisbee. So many people, so few bullets...
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From what I understand, he was perfectly within Texas law to shoot these people in the situation they were in.
I'm not sure I would equate Texas law with common sense, especially in this instance. From what I understand, he was so eager to shoot these guys a police disbatcher couldn't talk him out of it. Clearly, if you aren't going to listen to the police when they are telling you not to shoot someone, you aren't going to listen to anyone.
If someone can get away with shooting people in this instance, I can think of about a million other instances where I could make a case for me shooting someone as well.
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From what I understand, he was perfectly within Texas law to shoot these people in the situation they were in.
Just because it's the law doesn't mean I have to agree with it. And in this case, it's a law that is a choice....in other words he wouldn't have been violating the law to let them go without killing them.
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I'm not sure I would equate Texas law with common sense, especially in this instance. From what I understand, he was so eager to shoot these guys a police disbatcher couldn't talk him out of it. Clearly, if you aren't going to listen to the police when they are telling you not to shoot someone, you aren't going to listen to anyone.
If someone can get away with shooting people in this instance, I can think of about a million other instances where I could make a case for me shooting someone as well.
I agree with you that it defies common sense and that this Horn guy has a screw loose. No one deserves to be executed for stealing jewelry; that's insane. He should have told them to "freeze" and then fired warning shots in the air, nothing else (and certainly not 'lernin' 'em a good'un by killing them).
However it seems that the problem here is the Texas law & the enforcement thereof, regardless of opinion of it (by either the judge or anyone else). The law apparently needs to be revisited.
I agree with you that it defies common sense and that this Horn guy has a screw loose. No one deserves to be executed for stealing jewelry; that's insane. He should have told them to "freeze" and then fired warning shots in the air, nothing else (and certainly not 'lernin' 'em a good'un by killing them).
However it seems that the problem here is the Texas law & the enforcement thereof, regardless of opinion of it (by either the judge or anyone else). The law apparently needs to be revisited.
Agreed. We don't need laws encouraging trigger happy morons.
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The way I see it... it's only stuff.
I mean, i have a house full of stuff and wouldn't want to kill someone for stealing my 20 year old television. Sure, I'd be pissed... but, i have insurance... maybe I'd opt for a new flat screen.
Were the burgulars wrong for stealing the shit? YES. Should they be punished? YES.
Is it worth taking a person's life for a T.V? In my personal opinion, NO. a T.V. is easily replaced... a life can not.
...
This also applies to my car... if I am ever car-jacked... take the motherfucker (it sucks up too much gasoline, anyway)... just leave me with my sorry ass life.
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i have a hard time feeling sorry for the two idiots who died, and i keep hearing so many conflicting stories on what happened, i'm not sure what to think of the shooter, (though i'm now leaning toward cold blooded murderer).
I'm no lawyer, but it looks like you are allowed to use deadly force if you catch someone in the middle of robbery or burglary. Also you are allowed to use deadly force while they are fleeing if you believe the stolen property will not be able to be recovered.
So according to Texas law, Mr. Horn operated within his rights.
i have a hard time feeling sorry for the two idiots who died, and i keep hearing so many conflicting stories on what happened, i'm not sure what to think of the shooter, (though i'm now leaning toward cold blooded murderer).
have you listened to the audio?....just use that and forget what you've read or heard
I'm no lawyer, but it looks like you are allowed to use deadly force if you catch someone in the middle of robbery or burglary. Also you are allowed to use deadly force while they are fleeing if you believe the stolen property will not be able to be recovered.
So according to Texas law, Mr. Horn operated within his rights.
By gawd, ole' Horn took 'em out Texas way and lern'd 'em a dern good'uN!
I'm no lawyer, but it looks like you are allowed to use deadly force if you catch someone in the middle of robbery or burglary. Also you are allowed to use deadly force while they are fleeing if you believe the stolen property will not be able to be recovered.
So according to Texas law, Mr. Horn operated within his rights.
Awesome! I'm officially moving to Texas to open a candy store. I will place the merchandise right by the front door in hopes that some children will try to grab something and run. Man, I've always wanted to shoot me some kids and now I'll have the law to protect me.
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Let me just ask this if the two men Joe Horn shot had been white males instead of illegal immigrants from South America would the grand jury have voted the same way?
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Let me just ask this if the two men Joe Horn shot had been white males instead of illegal immigrants from South America would the grand jury have voted the same way?
Let me just ask this if the two men Joe Horn shot had been white males instead of illegal immigrants from South America, would he have shot them? :-)
Let me just ask this if the two men Joe Horn shot had been white males instead of illegal immigrants from South America would the grand jury have voted the same way?
Oh, good lord. Who knows. Why play that card? You can only speculate and that accomplishes nothing.
But I guess we'll find out because eyedclaar is going to move to Texas and lern some kids a good'un.
Let me just ask this if the two men Joe Horn shot had been white males instead of illegal immigrants from South America would the grand jury have voted the same way?
lets sweeten the pot bit more...what if they were two white teenagers from the same neighborhood....oh oh oh..one of them was a girl. (-:
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Thieves are scum... the lowest kind. Fuck em! This guy probably would have been robbed the following night... and probably killed in the process. These fuckers don't just do it once ya know.
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Jeebus! I think there are a bunch of sensitive folks in this pit that don't like me because I talk about being a gun owner. I hope to hell you don't own any guns, Helen, despite otherwise enjoying your personality. I once got into this petty theft cycle as a young guy where I would steal something like a candy bar from a store just to see if I could get away with it. Would you have been just as excited to read about a store owner blowing me away over a candy bar??? I'm sorry, some transgressions just don't rise to the level of shooting someone in the back with a shotgun especially when the police are already on the way. Like I said, if you have to get involved, control the situation until the police arrive and if you have to shoot, take out their legs. Now, if they have guns and are threatening you, I don't care, go Rambo on their asses.
I'm surprised at how blood thirsty some of you are. Maybe you haven't seen what gun shot wounds look like up close.
And I'm the gun nut?!?
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What if a 3rd person with a gun (either walking by or a neighbor) saw this guy gun down two people. If he didn't know the two guys were burglars, would he be right for using his own gun to shoot Joe Horn? It seems simple to me that deadly force is not the appropriate reaction for breaking and entering.
Kill 'em all... next kill everyone who does drugs, because you know some of those people eventually will still for their habit, and therefore by your logic, will probably kill, so we might as well shoot them all now.
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I was also thinking why stop there? You just know the guy that cut you off in traffic without even signaling is just going to do it again. Why not drag him out of his car at the next intersection and shoot him in the face? I'm also setting up land mines on my lawn as I'm tired of neighborhood kids trespassing on my property to retrieve their frisbee. So many people, so few bullets...
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In my opinion he should be locked up for murder.
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that's what it says in the good book....and i am inclinded to side with that judge and jury...
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From what I understand, he was perfectly within Texas law to shoot these people in the situation they were in.
I'm not sure I would equate Texas law with common sense, especially in this instance. From what I understand, he was so eager to shoot these guys a police disbatcher couldn't talk him out of it. Clearly, if you aren't going to listen to the police when they are telling you not to shoot someone, you aren't going to listen to anyone.
If someone can get away with shooting people in this instance, I can think of about a million other instances where I could make a case for me shooting someone as well.
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Just because it's the law doesn't mean I have to agree with it. And in this case, it's a law that is a choice....in other words he wouldn't have been violating the law to let them go without killing them.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
I agree with you that it defies common sense and that this Horn guy has a screw loose. No one deserves to be executed for stealing jewelry; that's insane. He should have told them to "freeze" and then fired warning shots in the air, nothing else (and certainly not 'lernin' 'em a good'un by killing them).
However it seems that the problem here is the Texas law & the enforcement thereof, regardless of opinion of it (by either the judge or anyone else). The law apparently needs to be revisited.
Agreed. We don't need laws encouraging trigger happy morons.
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This guy is just your typical blood thirsty human. He wanted vengence, he was prejudiced, low self esteem, wimp...etc.
If you listen to the 9/11 tape its pretty clear.
Now I do think we need to stiffen prison terms for burglary though...pretty shitty crime.
Guns don't suck..humans do.
I mean, i have a house full of stuff and wouldn't want to kill someone for stealing my 20 year old television. Sure, I'd be pissed... but, i have insurance... maybe I'd opt for a new flat screen.
Were the burgulars wrong for stealing the shit? YES. Should they be punished? YES.
Is it worth taking a person's life for a T.V? In my personal opinion, NO. a T.V. is easily replaced... a life can not.
...
This also applies to my car... if I am ever car-jacked... take the motherfucker (it sucks up too much gasoline, anyway)... just leave me with my sorry ass life.
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guess my post wasn't directed at you.....more at folks that point to stupid laws as justification
I'm no lawyer, but it looks like you are allowed to use deadly force if you catch someone in the middle of robbery or burglary. Also you are allowed to use deadly force while they are fleeing if you believe the stolen property will not be able to be recovered.
So according to Texas law, Mr. Horn operated within his rights.
By gawd, ole' Horn took 'em out Texas way and lern'd 'em a dern good'uN!
Awesome! I'm officially moving to Texas to open a candy store. I will place the merchandise right by the front door in hopes that some children will try to grab something and run. Man, I've always wanted to shoot me some kids and now I'll have the law to protect me.
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Let me just ask this if the two men Joe Horn shot had been white males instead of illegal immigrants from South America, would he have shot them? :-)
Oh, good lord. Who knows. Why play that card? You can only speculate and that accomplishes nothing.
But I guess we'll find out because eyedclaar is going to move to Texas and lern some kids a good'un.
Yeah, we'll see how far I get as I plan on shooting every color under the sun.
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and was also a lesbian crack addict who wore turbans and liked to scream "Praise Allah!" randomly when breaking in & stealing shit.
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