but ultimately the profit from that coal goes to the NY based company. Its the trickle down bullshit. they get the steaks and we get a bone tossed our way every once in a while. and that's not good enough. IF the people of the community ran the operation they would get all the benefits, which they could then use for any number of reasons, trade, energy...and they would respect the environment a lot more, considering they have to live there. The NY execs could care less about that.
Its a community based ideology. AS oppposed to pitting individuals against eachother, ie capitalism, individuals would work together. the power of that is incalculable. People working together for a change, instead of competing.
Actually there is a bill in Congress that would require an increase in royalties paid out to local communities by mine operators using public land. So the community does receive payment for the use of their land.
Also no one is stopping the community from organizing, establishing funding to incorporate and mine themselves.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
Actually there is a bill in Congress that would require an increase in royalties paid out to local communities by mine operators using public land. So the community does receive payment for the use of their land.
Also no one is stopping the community from organizing, establishing funding to incorporate and mine themselves.
bottom line. The resources of the region are benefiting outside investors. Silver, shale, coal, all of these resources are being extracted from Idaho and the only benefits we see are wages. that's not enough.throughout it all we have to complete with one another to get a bigger piece of the pay. Meanwhile the foriegn developers are getting the biggest pieces of the pie, and reaping the profit from OUR resources.
bottom line. The resources of the region are benefiting outside investors. Silver, shale, coal, all of these resources are being extracted from Idaho and the only benefits we see are wages. that's not enough.throughout it all we have to complete with one another to get a bigger piece of the pay. Meanwhile the foriegn developers are getting the biggest pieces of the pie, and reaping the profit from OUR resources.
Like I said then the people of Idaho should work with their elected officials to do something about it. Get investors buy up the land, start their own mining co-op. They have options available to them. If they decide not to persue those other options and just let these outsider companies reap the rewards them that is there choice.
This would be like me getting mad because my employer makes more money than I do off of my creative concepts. If I really felt that strongly about it I shouldn't complain and set off on my own. Form my own agency, go out and get my own clients.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
Like I said then the people of Idaho should work with their elected officials to do something about it. Get investors buy up the land, start their own mining co-op. They have options available to them. If they decide not to persue those other options and just let these outsider companies reap the rewards them that is there choice.
This would be like me getting mad because my employer makes more money than I do off of my creative concepts. If I really felt that strongly about it I shouldn't complain and set off on my own. Form my own agency, go out and get my own clients.
asarco tried to build a mine of some kind near our lake, one of the deepest lakes in the US incidentally. It took every ounce of our resistance to prevent them from doing that. The entire community had to stand up and protest to prevent them from destroying some very pristine wilderness. If that's what it takes every time a company wants to come in and extract resources we are inevitably going to lose some of these fights. We are on the defensive, and that shouldn't be the case. they should have to petition us to drill for our resources. ITs backwards. We have to fight to keep them out, they should have to fight to get in.
asarco tried to build a mine of some kind near our lake, one of the deepest lakes in the US incidentally. It took every ounce of our resistance to prevent them from doing that. The entire community had to stand up and protest to prevent them from destroying some very pristine wilderness. If that's what it takes every time a company wants to come in and extract resources we are inevitably going to lose some of these fights. We are on the defensive, and that shouldn't be the case. they should have to petition us to drill for our resources. ITs backwards. We have to fight to keep them out, they should have to fight to get in.
Well I would have to think about that. If it is public land for the public use so they community should be petitioned. I need to ponder this a bit and I'm tired and leaving work.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
I couldn't agree more. Instead of fixing the root cause they decided to go with the short-term fix.
What would attacking the root cause entail?
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-Reagan
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Obama and McCain voted yes. Ron Paul voted no. And here I thought the people wanted change.
Our economy is based on debt. It needs to be based on something more tangible. It was once stated that if every single American stopped using credit cards and simply purchased everything with cash, houses, cars, etc… where not including in this, our economy would collapse. Now to me and many economists that is not a good way to support your economy. Eventually the bottom is going to give out because in order for the economy to grow we would need to go further in to debt. We need to create a new infrastructure to support our economy. As I have stated before, I do not support Obama for president but I do like his idea of creating a "green" industry. This may be the way to help prop up our economy and it will also help ween us of foreign oil dependency.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
and so the 230 or so year freedom experiment ends.
It was a good run while it lasted. The last century killed it.
So much for limited government interaction.
I guess we'll just have to get used to having a committee decide what it's ok to wipe our asses with from now on, we've proved as a nation from the richest to the poorest that we cannot handle the slightest bit of freedom with out going ape shit and fucking it up. Sigh. So much for Freedom.
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Actually there is a bill in Congress that would require an increase in royalties paid out to local communities by mine operators using public land. So the community does receive payment for the use of their land.
Also no one is stopping the community from organizing, establishing funding to incorporate and mine themselves.
Like I said then the people of Idaho should work with their elected officials to do something about it. Get investors buy up the land, start their own mining co-op. They have options available to them. If they decide not to persue those other options and just let these outsider companies reap the rewards them that is there choice.
This would be like me getting mad because my employer makes more money than I do off of my creative concepts. If I really felt that strongly about it I shouldn't complain and set off on my own. Form my own agency, go out and get my own clients.
Well I would have to think about that. If it is public land for the public use so they community should be petitioned. I need to ponder this a bit and I'm tired and leaving work.
What would attacking the root cause entail?
-Reagan
Thank you Dr. Paul.
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Our economy is based on debt. It needs to be based on something more tangible. It was once stated that if every single American stopped using credit cards and simply purchased everything with cash, houses, cars, etc… where not including in this, our economy would collapse. Now to me and many economists that is not a good way to support your economy. Eventually the bottom is going to give out because in order for the economy to grow we would need to go further in to debt. We need to create a new infrastructure to support our economy. As I have stated before, I do not support Obama for president but I do like his idea of creating a "green" industry. This may be the way to help prop up our economy and it will also help ween us of foreign oil dependency.
It was a good run while it lasted. The last century killed it.
So much for limited government interaction.
I guess we'll just have to get used to having a committee decide what it's ok to wipe our asses with from now on, we've proved as a nation from the richest to the poorest that we cannot handle the slightest bit of freedom with out going ape shit and fucking it up. Sigh. So much for Freedom.