The fact that you stated that one minute Paul is for something and the next minute he is not clearly shows how little you know about the man.As for the Gold Standard he realized that it would be impossible to go back to that system. .
Wow!!
You just flipped flopped yourself in one paragraph. Thanks for arguing my point for me.
One minute he was for the Gold Standard....The next...."Oops sorry about that...my bad...You're right...That wouldn't work".
Ron Paul is out of his fucking mind as evidenced below.
Please read and Explain the following HAND WRITTEN letter from the man himself claiming how US sovereignty is under attack and how the United Nations wants to take away our guns:
"The world's elites are busy forming a North American Union. If they are successful, as they were in forming the European Union, the good 'ol USA will be only a memory. We can't let that happen.
The UN also wants to confiscate our firearms and impose a global tax. The UN elites want to control the world's oceans with the Law of the Sea Treaty. And they want to use our military to police the world".
C'mon...is this man on acid?
Perhaps Al Queda, Darth Vadar, The Vulcans and the Klingons are the ones causing this ecomomic crisis as well.
Jeeze Ron
Let's go get our guns, run to the hills and shoot em' all to save our American Way of Life.
Wow!!
You just flipped flopped yourself in one paragraph. Thanks for arguing my point for me.
One minute he was for the Gold Standard....The next...."Oops sorry about that...my bad...You're right...That wouldn't work".
Ron Paul is out of his fucking mind as evidenced below.
Please read and Explain the following HAND WRITTEN letter from the man himself claiming how US sovereignty is under attack and how the United Nations wants to take away our guns:
"The world's elites are busy forming a North American Union. If they are successful, as they were in forming the European Union, the good 'ol USA will be only a memory. We can't let that happen.
The UN also wants to confiscate our firearms and impose a global tax. The UN elites want to control the world's oceans with the Law of the Sea Treaty. And they want to use our military to police the world".
C'mon...
You'd vote for this guy?
As I stated I don't agree with everything he says but for the most part, the economy, constitutional right, foreign intervention, the man is spot on and someone who supports Obama should be calling anyone a flip flopper, no drilling ok well the public opinion polls show that they support drilling so I will support drilling. On one issue Paul has changed his stance because of the logistical impossibility of accomplishing his desired goal. One issue. How many issues has Obama contradicted himself on?
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
As I stated I don't agree with everything he says but for the most part, the economy, constitutional right, foreign intervention, the man is spot on and someone who supports Obama should be calling anyone a flip flopper, no drilling ok well the public opinion polls show that they support drilling so I will support drilling. On one issue Paul has changed his stance because of the logistical impossibility of accomplishing his desired goal. One issue. How many issues has Obama contradicted himself on?
Look.
To be blunt.
Obama is not a raving mad man.
Paul is smart, I'll give him that....but he's also very unstable.
With a world view like the one qouted, as well as his views on Religion, A Women's right to choose.
I'm sorry....I just could not vote for someone like this.
Paul is smart, I'll give him that....but he's also very unstable.
With a world view like the one qouted, as well as his views on Religion, A Women's right to choose.
I'm sorry....I just could not vote for someone like this.
I never said Obama was a raving mad man and Paul views on religion and abortion are his own and he has stated repeatedly that abortion is a state issue and the federal government has no place getting involved. I personally don't agree with his views on abortion but technically speaking he is right. Roe v. Wade is unconstitutional and should be over turned on that basis.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
I never said Obama was a raving mad man and Paul views on religion and abortion are his own and he has stated repeatedly that abortion is a state issue and the federal government has no place getting involved. I personally don't agree with his views on abortion but technically speaking he is right. Roe v. Wade is unconstitutional and should be over turned on that basis.
Here's some more gems from Paul
“Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the ‘criminal justice system,’ I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.”
“If you have ever been robbed by a black teenaged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be.”
“Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the ‘criminal justice system,’ I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.”
“If you have ever been robbed by a black teenaged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be.”
Ron Hitler Paul 08!
Show me a link to them. In the past many quotes that people attribute to Paul have actually been proven false or taken entirely out of context.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
Just did a quick search of your quotes and those quotes where included in Ron Paul's official newsletter. They where written by a ghost writer and submitted to the newsletter and published. Ron Paul has publicly stated that he in no way shape or form agrees with those statements but takes responsibility for them being published since it was his newsletter. He apologized for his lack of over-sight on his newsletter as well. While most politicians would have tried to spin their way out of this he took it on the chin and took responsibility for letting writing of this nature get published under his name.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
Show me a link to them. In the past many quotes that people attribute to Paul have actually been proven false or taken entirely out of context.
There in his newsletters!!
His only argument was that he had no idea that they were printed???
Sounds like the typical cop-out.
Here's another
“[O]ur country is being destroyed by a group of actual and potential terrorists—and they can be identified by the color of their skin.”
Don't you think a candidate running for President would have a little more control over things printed in his name, on his very own newsletter, sent out to his people?
I'm sorry but there is no excuse for such an oversight.
His only argument was that he had no idea that they were printed...
Here's another
“[O]ur country is being destroyed by a group of actual and potential terrorists—and they can be identified by the color of their skin.”
Don't you think a candidate running for President would have a little more control over things printed in his name, on his very own newsletter, sent out to his people?
That was also from the same column printed in his newsletter and at the time he wasn't heavely involved in his newsletter because he was not serving in congress. All these quotes and points you are bringing up have been squashed a long time ago. It's like grasping at straws. Let's dig up irrelevant dirt and create rumors because we can't actually stand toe to toe with the man on real issues. With the exception of his desire to withdraw from the UN and NATO practically every other stance he has is rock solid.
Through out the primaries he brought up the economy and the housing bubble but every other candidate and the media ignored him. For two decades now the man has been talking about how our current economic system would largely implode if we didn't change course. All through out the primaries he was saying how our foreign policy was creating an environment perfect for islamic fundamentalism to breed. How through our own actions we where creating an unsafe environment. All this while every other candidate, including Obama, where still harping on how they attacked us because they hate our freedoms. All through out his career he has constantly fought against unnecessary government expansion and spending. He is the only candidate who has actually discussed, and in specifics, how he wants to reduce government spending. He is the only candidate, maybe with the exception of Kucinich, who wants to end the senseless embargo against Cuba. Instead of actually discussing these issues people bring up a column written by another person that was accidentally included in a Paul newsletter from 1992.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
His only argument was that he had no idea that they were printed???
Sounds like the typical cop-out.
Here's another
“[O]ur country is being destroyed by a group of actual and potential terrorists—and they can be identified by the color of their skin.”
Don't you think a candidate running for President would have a little more control over things printed in his name, on his very own newsletter, sent out to his people?
I'm sorry but there is no excuse for such an oversight.
No Excuse
So I'm assuming then that you believe Obama was wrong for his continued parishenership in Rev. Wrights church after he made those comments.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
So I'm assuming then that you believe Obama was wrong for his continued parishenership in Rev. Wrights church after he made those comments.
Your missing the key point here. Rev Wrights comments were not spoken by Obama, printed in HIS VERY OWN NEWSLETTER, or spoken by anyone associated with his campaign.
Ron Paul uses the lame ass excuse that he had no idea what was being printed in his newsletter??? I'm sorry...but that is just about the lamest excuse on the face of the earth.
How could this slip by Paul or any of the people he has in charge of his campaign.
It may have been a year ago...but I'm sorry...I don't feel this kind of thing should be tossed under the carpet. especially after such a lame ass pigeon shit response from Paul himself.
Through out the primaries he brought up the economy and the housing bubble but every other candidate and the media ignored him. For two decades now the man has been talking about how our current economic system would largely implode if we didn't change course.
Exactly 1 year ago Obama went to Wall Street and wrote a report about how the current economic system would not sustain itself and ultimately fail. This was ridiculed, and largely ignored. Funny how a year later Obama's very own prediction has come true.
Futhermore Obama has introduced 4 bills relating directly to this very economic issue, asking for restrictions to be made on Wall Street CEO's as well as regulations to the morgage and loan process.
Your missing the key point here. Rev Wrights comments were not spoken by Obama, printed in HIS VERY OWN NEWSLETTER, or spoken by anyone associated with his campaign.
Ron Paul uses the lame ass excuse that he had no idea what was being printed in his newsletter??? I'm sorry...but that is just about the lamest excuse on the face of the earth.
How could this slip by Paul or any of the people he has in charge of his campaign.
It may have been a year ago...but I'm sorry...I don't feel this kind of thing should be tossed under the carpet. especially after such a lame ass pigeon shit response from Paul himself.
What a bunch of Crap.
Exactly 1 year ago Obama went to Wall Street and wrote a report about how the current economic system would not sustain itself and ultimately fail. This was ridiculed, and largely ignored. Funny how a year later Obama's very own prediction has come true.
Futhermore Obama has introduced 4 bills relating directly to this very economic issue, asking for restrictions to be made on Wall Street CEO's as well as regulations to the morgage and loan process.
the article in mention was printer over 16 years ago. paul wasn't even in Congress at the time so there was no campaign team around him and he was at best remotely involved at the time with the newsletter. the fact is it's a non-story dug up to smear a candidate by his opponents because they could not go toe to toe with him on the issues.
As for the Rev. Wright issue it can be said, not that I agree with it, that Obama supported those statements because he continued to attend Wright's sermons and continued to count him amongst his friends. So if you want to hold Paul responsible then Obama should be held responsible as well.
As to Obama's report about the economy. Yes he wrote a report about it then what. Did he bring it up in the primaries? Did he do the press circuit discussing the impending implosion of the market and our economy? Why not mobilize his party to start doing something about it a year ago instead of waiting for all hell to break loose. The Democrats had control of Congress. Obama surely was receiving far more press coverage a year ago then Paul so he would have to opportunity to be heard. Paul has been speaking to this for 2 decades and no one listened. They called him crazy or crack-pot. largely ignored and marginalized but he knew what was coming down the road. You may disagree with his stances on issues but to call him crazy or a crack pot when he was the only candidate who was trying to bring this and many other issues to the table is ridiculous. To use ridiculous and falsely proven statements about him being a racist also shows a level of stupidity that I willing to assume you do not possess. You speak of the types of under handed smear campaigns the Republicans employ but would then use them against an opposing candidate. That is hypocrisy and would hope that people on this message board would be above or better than that.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
One final note. It is quite useless to debate this since Ron Paul is no longer a presidential candidate and chances are, if McCain's recent actions back fire, Obama will end up being our next president.
Also to show that I do not think so lowly of Obama I do support his plan for a "green" economy. In fact I have mentioned on more than one occassion, on this board, that his plan would be a good way to revitalize the economy and give it a good foundation as well as prove energy independence.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
Comments
Wow!!
You just flipped flopped yourself in one paragraph. Thanks for arguing my point for me.
One minute he was for the Gold Standard....The next...."Oops sorry about that...my bad...You're right...That wouldn't work".
Ron Paul is out of his fucking mind as evidenced below.
Please read and Explain the following HAND WRITTEN letter from the man himself claiming how US sovereignty is under attack and how the United Nations wants to take away our guns:
http://www.brendan-nyhan.com/blog/files/ronpaul.pdf
Handwritten and hard to read...I know
So here's the part in question.
"The world's elites are busy forming a North American Union. If they are successful, as they were in forming the European Union, the good 'ol USA will be only a memory. We can't let that happen.
The UN also wants to confiscate our firearms and impose a global tax. The UN elites want to control the world's oceans with the Law of the Sea Treaty. And they want to use our military to police the world".
C'mon...is this man on acid?
Perhaps Al Queda, Darth Vadar, The Vulcans and the Klingons are the ones causing this ecomomic crisis as well.
Jeeze Ron
Let's go get our guns, run to the hills and shoot em' all to save our American Way of Life.
As I stated I don't agree with everything he says but for the most part, the economy, constitutional right, foreign intervention, the man is spot on and someone who supports Obama should be calling anyone a flip flopper, no drilling ok well the public opinion polls show that they support drilling so I will support drilling. On one issue Paul has changed his stance because of the logistical impossibility of accomplishing his desired goal. One issue. How many issues has Obama contradicted himself on?
Look.
To be blunt.
Obama is not a raving mad man.
Paul is smart, I'll give him that....but he's also very unstable.
With a world view like the one qouted, as well as his views on Religion, A Women's right to choose.
I'm sorry....I just could not vote for someone like this.
I never said Obama was a raving mad man and Paul views on religion and abortion are his own and he has stated repeatedly that abortion is a state issue and the federal government has no place getting involved. I personally don't agree with his views on abortion but technically speaking he is right. Roe v. Wade is unconstitutional and should be over turned on that basis.
Here's some more gems from Paul
“Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the ‘criminal justice system,’ I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.”
“If you have ever been robbed by a black teenaged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be.”
Ron Hitler Paul 08!
Show me a link to them. In the past many quotes that people attribute to Paul have actually been proven false or taken entirely out of context.
There in his newsletters!!
His only argument was that he had no idea that they were printed???
Sounds like the typical cop-out.
Here's another
“[O]ur country is being destroyed by a group of actual and potential terrorists—and they can be identified by the color of their skin.”
Don't you think a candidate running for President would have a little more control over things printed in his name, on his very own newsletter, sent out to his people?
I'm sorry but there is no excuse for such an oversight.
No Excuse
That was also from the same column printed in his newsletter and at the time he wasn't heavely involved in his newsletter because he was not serving in congress. All these quotes and points you are bringing up have been squashed a long time ago. It's like grasping at straws. Let's dig up irrelevant dirt and create rumors because we can't actually stand toe to toe with the man on real issues. With the exception of his desire to withdraw from the UN and NATO practically every other stance he has is rock solid.
Through out the primaries he brought up the economy and the housing bubble but every other candidate and the media ignored him. For two decades now the man has been talking about how our current economic system would largely implode if we didn't change course. All through out the primaries he was saying how our foreign policy was creating an environment perfect for islamic fundamentalism to breed. How through our own actions we where creating an unsafe environment. All this while every other candidate, including Obama, where still harping on how they attacked us because they hate our freedoms. All through out his career he has constantly fought against unnecessary government expansion and spending. He is the only candidate who has actually discussed, and in specifics, how he wants to reduce government spending. He is the only candidate, maybe with the exception of Kucinich, who wants to end the senseless embargo against Cuba. Instead of actually discussing these issues people bring up a column written by another person that was accidentally included in a Paul newsletter from 1992.
So I'm assuming then that you believe Obama was wrong for his continued parishenership in Rev. Wrights church after he made those comments.
Your missing the key point here. Rev Wrights comments were not spoken by Obama, printed in HIS VERY OWN NEWSLETTER, or spoken by anyone associated with his campaign.
Ron Paul uses the lame ass excuse that he had no idea what was being printed in his newsletter??? I'm sorry...but that is just about the lamest excuse on the face of the earth.
How could this slip by Paul or any of the people he has in charge of his campaign.
It may have been a year ago...but I'm sorry...I don't feel this kind of thing should be tossed under the carpet. especially after such a lame ass pigeon shit response from Paul himself.
What a bunch of Crap.
Exactly 1 year ago Obama went to Wall Street and wrote a report about how the current economic system would not sustain itself and ultimately fail. This was ridiculed, and largely ignored. Funny how a year later Obama's very own prediction has come true.
Futhermore Obama has introduced 4 bills relating directly to this very economic issue, asking for restrictions to be made on Wall Street CEO's as well as regulations to the morgage and loan process.
the article in mention was printer over 16 years ago. paul wasn't even in Congress at the time so there was no campaign team around him and he was at best remotely involved at the time with the newsletter. the fact is it's a non-story dug up to smear a candidate by his opponents because they could not go toe to toe with him on the issues.
As for the Rev. Wright issue it can be said, not that I agree with it, that Obama supported those statements because he continued to attend Wright's sermons and continued to count him amongst his friends. So if you want to hold Paul responsible then Obama should be held responsible as well.
As to Obama's report about the economy. Yes he wrote a report about it then what. Did he bring it up in the primaries? Did he do the press circuit discussing the impending implosion of the market and our economy? Why not mobilize his party to start doing something about it a year ago instead of waiting for all hell to break loose. The Democrats had control of Congress. Obama surely was receiving far more press coverage a year ago then Paul so he would have to opportunity to be heard. Paul has been speaking to this for 2 decades and no one listened. They called him crazy or crack-pot. largely ignored and marginalized but he knew what was coming down the road. You may disagree with his stances on issues but to call him crazy or a crack pot when he was the only candidate who was trying to bring this and many other issues to the table is ridiculous. To use ridiculous and falsely proven statements about him being a racist also shows a level of stupidity that I willing to assume you do not possess. You speak of the types of under handed smear campaigns the Republicans employ but would then use them against an opposing candidate. That is hypocrisy and would hope that people on this message board would be above or better than that.
Also to show that I do not think so lowly of Obama I do support his plan for a "green" economy. In fact I have mentioned on more than one occassion, on this board, that his plan would be a good way to revitalize the economy and give it a good foundation as well as prove energy independence.