Just doing some reading when I came across this statistic

mammasan
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edited September 2008 in A Moving Train
in a 2001 gallop poll 45% of Americans believe that "God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so." Another 37% believe that "Human beings have developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life, but God guided this process."Only 14% believe that "human beings have developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life, but God had no part in this process.

Is it really true that the majority of American believe that our planet is only 10,000 years old?
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  • meistereder
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    No wonder why the Europeans on this board make fun of us. Pretty sad.
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  • know1
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    I must be missing something. Which of those numbers quoted represents a majority? Also, where is the statement about believing the planet is 10,000 years old. Those statements were about humans.
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  • digster
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    I've never understood why people cannot accept both evolution and an ever-present God. How does it de-legimitize the Bible if the Creation story is a poetic metaphor used as a means to portray that God did in fact create the world? I'm not trying to be flippant, I just don't understand why fundamentalists find this possibility so abhorrent.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    know1 wrote:
    I must be missing something. Which of those numbers quoted represents a majority? Also, where is the statement about believing the planet is 10,000 years old. Those statements were about humans.

    Creationist believe that genesis occurred 10,000 years ago.
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  • know1
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    mammasan wrote:
    Creationist believe that genesis occurred 10,000 years ago.

    But those statistics you quoted didn't say it that way. Furthermore, none of them represented a majority as you stated.
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  • chromiam
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    know1 wrote:
    I must be missing something. Which of those numbers quoted represents a majority? Also, where is the statement about believing the planet is 10,000 years old. Those statements were about humans.

    at least I know my reading comprehension skills still work...
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  • mammasan
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    know1 wrote:
    But those statistics you quoted didn't say it that way. Furthermore, none of them represented a majority as you stated.

    A majority of Americans polled believed in Creationism. Sorry I forgot the polled part.
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  • chromiam
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    mammasan wrote:
    A majority of Americans polled believed in Creationism. Sorry I forgot the polled part.

    it would be a plurality not a majority of people...
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  • know1
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    I believe in God and creation, but I do not believe that the earth was created only 10,000 years ago.
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    know1 wrote:
    I believe in God and creation, but I do not believe that the earth was created only 10,000 years ago.

    Well then you are not a Creationist. You would probably fall into the Intelligent Design category.
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    chromiam wrote:
    it would be a plurality not a majority of people...

    I guess I should have said plurality because 55% did not believe in creationism but out of those polled the largest group was the Creationist so that is why i used majority.
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  • know1
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    mammasan wrote:
    Well then you are not a Creationist. You would probably fall into the Intelligent Design category.

    Maybe so, but then again I think it's difficult to try and categorize people down to a few categories so they fit nice in a survey. People believe things across the spectrum.
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    know1 wrote:
    Maybe so, but then again I think it's difficult to try and categorize people down to a few categories so they fit nice in a survey. People believe things across the spectrum.

    I tend to agree but with this subject I think the majority of people do fall into a few categories.
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  • even flow?
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    mammasan wrote:
    in a 2001 gallop poll 45% of Americans believe that "God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so." Another 37% believe that "Human beings have developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life, but God guided this process."Only 14% believe that "human beings have developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life, but God had no part in this process.

    Is it really true that the majority of American believe that our planet is only 10,000 years old?


    10,000 years and dinosaur bones are really a test. ha ha ha
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  • tybird
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    digster wrote:
    I've never understood why people cannot accept both evolution and an ever-present God. How does it de-legimitize the Bible if the Creation story is a poetic metaphor used as a means to portray that God did in fact create the world? I'm not trying to be flippant, I just don't understand why fundamentalists find this possibility so abhorrent.
    Don't understand it either...as one can believe in one with out throwing out the other.....Moses, who wrote down Genesis, was a smart man for this time....but knew nothing about DNA, RNA, mutations etc....so he didn't include them in the account that he wrote down.......and what is a day to God? 24 hours? 1 million years? ....and I was raised as a Southern Baptist....but have received an extensive education in the sciences.
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  • mammasan
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    even flow? wrote:
    10,000 years and dinosaur bones are really a test. ha ha ha


    See I personally believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
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  • mbangel10
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    mammasan wrote:
    Well then you are not a Creationist. You would probably fall into the Intelligent Design category.

    Since Creationism was re-labeled Intelligent Design in 1987 (the same year creationism was no longer allowed to be taught in public schools), they would in fact be one in the same. ID follows the rule that the earth is a little over 6,000 years old.
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  • fuck
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    mammasan wrote:
    in a 2001 gallop poll 45% of Americans believe that "God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so." Another 37% believe that "Human beings have developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life, but God guided this process."Only 14% believe that "human beings have developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life, but God had no part in this process.

    Is it really true that the majority of American believe that our planet is only 10,000 years old?
    humans =/= our planet, though many Americans like to think so.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    mbangel10 wrote:
    Since Creationism was re-labeled Intelligent Design in 1987 (the same year creationism was no longer allowed to be taught in public schools), they would in fact be one in the same. ID follows the rule that the earth is a little over 6,000 years old.

    Actually you are wrong my friend. There are two branches of Creationism, Young Earth Creationism and Gap Creationism. Young earth creationist believe that the world, universe and humanity are about 10,000 years old. They believe in a strict interpretation of the story of Genesis and do not believe that man evolved from another species but we where in fact created as we are today. Gap Creationist believe that the universe and earth are far older than 10,000 years. They generally believe in the scientifically accepted age of both, but much like Young Earth Creationist they do not believe they we evolved from another species and that we where in fact created as we are today. Supports of Intelligent Design generally believe in the scientifically accepted age of the universe and earth but believe that they where created by God. many also believe that we evolved but only became man through God's intervention. So as you can see Creationism and Intelligent Design are not the same thing and many strict Creationist actually criticize Intelligent Design because it does not adhere to the teachings of the Bible.
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