Just doing some reading when I came across this statistic
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in a 2001 gallop poll 45% of Americans believe that "God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so." Another 37% believe that "Human beings have developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life, but God guided this process."Only 14% believe that "human beings have developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life, but God had no part in this process.
Is it really true that the majority of American believe that our planet is only 10,000 years old?
Is it really true that the majority of American believe that our planet is only 10,000 years old?
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...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Creationist believe that genesis occurred 10,000 years ago.
But those statistics you quoted didn't say it that way. Furthermore, none of them represented a majority as you stated.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
at least I know my reading comprehension skills still work...
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A majority of Americans polled believed in Creationism. Sorry I forgot the polled part.
it would be a plurality not a majority of people...
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...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Well then you are not a Creationist. You would probably fall into the Intelligent Design category.
I guess I should have said plurality because 55% did not believe in creationism but out of those polled the largest group was the Creationist so that is why i used majority.
Maybe so, but then again I think it's difficult to try and categorize people down to a few categories so they fit nice in a survey. People believe things across the spectrum.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
I tend to agree but with this subject I think the majority of people do fall into a few categories.
10,000 years and dinosaur bones are really a test. ha ha ha
See I personally believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
And yet you feel insulted with higher thought and social change is frightening.
Since Creationism was re-labeled Intelligent Design in 1987 (the same year creationism was no longer allowed to be taught in public schools), they would in fact be one in the same. ID follows the rule that the earth is a little over 6,000 years old.
Actually you are wrong my friend. There are two branches of Creationism, Young Earth Creationism and Gap Creationism. Young earth creationist believe that the world, universe and humanity are about 10,000 years old. They believe in a strict interpretation of the story of Genesis and do not believe that man evolved from another species but we where in fact created as we are today. Gap Creationist believe that the universe and earth are far older than 10,000 years. They generally believe in the scientifically accepted age of both, but much like Young Earth Creationist they do not believe they we evolved from another species and that we where in fact created as we are today. Supports of Intelligent Design generally believe in the scientifically accepted age of the universe and earth but believe that they where created by God. many also believe that we evolved but only became man through God's intervention. So as you can see Creationism and Intelligent Design are not the same thing and many strict Creationist actually criticize Intelligent Design because it does not adhere to the teachings of the Bible.
it's not a majority, but still... wow. i am embarrassed.
Isn't that what Mike Huckabee said as well?
They are just like us.
So, I can see people saying, "Yup... there were Dinosaurs. but, then, God created Us... as we are... 10,000 years ago... long after the Dinosaurs went belly up". It allows you to shoehorn in the Bible into the Sciences without all of that cumbersome scientific testing protocol. It is basically a theory because i say it is, thing.
Hail, Hail!!!
Wait what?? Moses wrote down Genesis?? This is the first I've ever heard of that.
Of Pandas and People, the intelligent design text book, was edited in 1987 to replace the word creationism with ID. This text book conveniently leaves out the age of the earth, or any other geology time lines. The simple answer to why FTE would leave this out is because their religious belief is that the earth was created 6,000-10,000 years ago. However, instead of printing those beliefs in their skewed science book, they left all time lines out so it would be one less thing school boards could argue about.
Whether there are one or one hundred different branches of creationism is irrelevant, because it's all still creationism, and so is ID.
Again I disagree. ID at the very least always for the acceptance of scientific data while Young Earth Creationism does not and Gap Creationism, while accepting scientific data on the age of the universe and planets, does not accept the theory of evolution. Id developed from Creationist theories but does not simply ignore mountains of scientific data that points to man's evolution and the evolution of our universe and planet. That would be like saying that football and rugby are the same sport simply because they have some similarities.
nope. because ID is still not science. it still has that god thing and has no place in a science classroom. a better analogy is to say that just because rugby isn't football, its rules should be used in baseball. just because ID has some differences from creationism (arbitrary and political ones, i did a huge research project on this last semester) does not make it a legit scientific theory that belongs in a science curriculum.
I saw an amazing PBS/Nova documentary on one of the recent "evolution in school's trials". One people on the evolution team did some digging into this book and they found an early maunscript, where the word creation had been replaced by the word intelligent design, in all but a couple of spots. I think the author basically did a "find/replace" with Word and missed a couple of occurances. You can read about it hear (search for "Cdesign proponentsists")
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/3416_id.html
The best part of the show was when they did a recreation of the trial and got one of the main supporters of intelligent design to admit that under his definition of a scientific theory that astrology would also be considered scientific.
The problem with Intelligent Design is that it is not scientific.They don't use a real scienfic method where a researcher will wonder how something works, come up with a possible hypothisis, then experiment and research to see if thier hypthesis holds true (and if it doesn't they report their findings either way). Instead they start with the exact answer they want and then look for evidence that supports the answer they wanted in the first place.
I never said that ID is a legit science. I was merely pointing out that ID and Creationism are two different psuedo-sciences.