Secessionists meeting in Tennessee

soulsinging

Open wrote:

Totally agree, it's easy to be open minded in a state that's open minded. Try being open minded in a state full of close minded people.

so why don't we let the south secede, all the close-minded rednecks can build their WASP paradise, and all you wonderful southerners we keep hearing about can move to a part of the country that's livable?

sledgepammer

soulsinging wrote:

so why don't we let the south secede, all the close-minded rednecks can build their WASP paradise, and all you wonderful southerners we keep hearing about can move to a part of the country that's livable?

Do you truly believe that all of the narrow-minded people in America reside in the south and ONLY the south? Have you ever been to California, which is always labeled as a "liberal" state? I once lived in San Francisco, and while many of the major metropolitan areas are very left-leaning, there are a vast amount of conservative farmers and conservative suburbanites that also make up that state. THAT is the political climate of the whole United States and that is what is supposed to define us as a country.

The way you group people together is every bit as dangerous and narrow-minded as those "close-minded rednecks" that you love to hate.

It doesn't matter who you are or where you're from, people with unfair prejudices can be anywhere and you're a prime example of that.

810wmb

soulsinging wrote:

you mean the best time you've ever had grabbing your ankles? i don't doubt that contention or your expertise in making it. but for the rest of the country who lives in the real world, a failing education system, borders that leak like a sieve, a war with no end in sight, the worst terrorist attack on american soil ever, skyrocketing deficits, a bloated budget, and a sluggish economy don't add up to the best we've ever had. it's been kinda crappy really.

hahahahaha...dude, you take yr meds today or what?

810wmb

sledgepammer wrote:

Do you truly believe that all of the narrow-minded people in America reside in the south and ONLY the south? Have you ever been to California, which is always labeled as a "liberal" state? I once lived in San Francisco, and while many of the major metropolitan areas are very left-leaning, there are a vast amount of conservative farmers and conservative suburbanites that also make up that state. THAT is the political climate of the whole United States and that is what is supposed to define us as a country.

The way you group people together is every bit as dangerous and narrow-minded as those "close-minded rednecks" that you love to hate.

It doesn't matter who you are or where you're from, people with unfair prejudices can be anywhere and you're a prime example of that.

amen brother...he's been showing his true colors towards me, fo sho

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

if the south could get conservative alaska to join too, we'd have all the oil in the US!

soulsinging

sledgepammer wrote:

Do you truly believe that all of the narrow-minded people in America reside in the south and ONLY the south? Have you ever been to California, which is always labeled as a "liberal" state? I once lived in San Francisco, and while many of the major metropolitan areas are very left-leaning, there are a vast amount of conservative farmers and conservative suburbanites that also make up that state. THAT is the political climate of the whole United States and that is what is supposed to define us as a country.

The way you group people together is every bit as dangerous and narrow-minded as those "close-minded rednecks" that you love to hate.

It doesn't matter who you are or where you're from, people with unfair prejudices can be anywhere and you're a prime example of that.

they'd move. they could set up their own country where homos are jailed, genesis replaces evolution, only christians can vote, and whatever other religious nonsense they feel would keep their society peachy keen. then the rest of us could stop expending effort on that nonsense and work on things like fixing our school system and building our economy. they could also take over fighting god's war in iraq, so we can all get tax cuts up here. it sounds wonderful to me.

Marbles

There have been organizations working on secession for years, one in particular: http://freestateproject.org/ It just makes sense. The war of northern aggression was NOT about slavery, it was about not allowing the south to leave the union. There had already been talk of abolition, which didn't matter much in the industrial north, but in the agricultural south, it was a huge issue. It was the north, that when counting slave men counted them as fractional human beings for census purposes...

soulsinging

Marbles wrote:

It was the north, that when counting slave men counted them as fractional human beings for census purposes...

good point. the south, which only wanted to count them for census purposes to gain more seats in congress and had no intention of ever letting any of those slaves near a voting booth, was obviously the morally superior one on that issue.

i'm all for letting them secede. i wish we had. but c'est la vie.

"the war of northern aggression" eh? thanks for reminding me why i got the fuck out of ohio.

Marbles

soulsinging wrote:

"the war of northern aggression" eh? thanks for reminding me why i got the fuck out of ohio.

That is NOT a phrase in use in this area, just by people who think that the south got railroaded!

soulsinging

Marbles wrote:

That is NOT a phrase in use in this area, just by people who think that the south got railroaded!

fair enough. there are places in ohio i really don't like to go though, becos they do think that way anyway, i am not joking or exaggerating when i say i am all for secession. the country is divided to the point of no return now. i don't think there's any way it can be healed.

Marbles

soulsinging wrote:

fair enough. there are places in ohio i really don't like to go though, becos they do think that way anyway, i am not joking or exaggerating when i say i am all for secession. the country is divided to the point of no return now. i don't think there's any way it can be healed.

Dear, I just moved from a very, 'um, 'um, light suburb, to an integrated city. I have moved into an urban area with a pretty diverse population. I'm not in Amish country.

Vedd Hedd

Kinda reminds me of Rome.

Marbles

The country has been crumbling for quite some time.

soulsinging

Marbles wrote:

Dear, I just moved from a very, 'um, 'um, light suburb, to an integrated city. I have moved into an urban area with a pretty diverse population. I'm not in Amish country.

cleveland?

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

jesus, some of you people should really get out more. from the sound of this thread, civil war is imminent.

soulsinging

MrSmith wrote:

jesus, some of you people should really get out more. from the sound of this thread, civil war is imminent.

if so, we're losing on purpose this time.

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