Mission Accomplished

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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    zstillings wrote:
    The war, good or bad. He believes in what he is doing meaning that staying the course is going to be his legacy. He believes that it is for the best. To say that he is doing nothing to help his legacy though is one-sided.
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    The idea of freeing the world of terrorists acts is a noble one. However, Bush's idea and his actions do not coincide. He plotted a bad course when he turned away from Afghanistan and towards Iraq. Staying a bad course is going to be his legacy. He needs to correct his course and get back on a track that rids the world of acts of terrorism. This task has been much more difficult to execute because the course has lead us deeper and deeper into the shitmire. It is a lot tougher to change course from here. His legacy is going to be the burden for future Presidents, as well as America, to endure.
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    If he were serious about 'Winning The war on Terrorism', he would put all of America's resources towards it... placing 300,000 U.S. troops to secure Iraq... even if it meant re-instituting the Selective Service draft. But, he's not serious about it. He's doing it on the cheap... and has been doing so from the start. Yeah, the draft would be immensely unpopular... but, in the long run... if it leads to a stable Iraq that was rebuilt into a Western Styled Democracy... which he envisions... then, what you are saying may become true.
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  • floyd1975
    floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    Cosmo wrote:
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    The idea of freeing the world of terrorists acts is a noble one. However, Bush's idea and his actions do not coincide. He plotted a bad course when he turned away from Afghanistan and towards Iraq. Staying a bad course is going to be his legacy. He needs to correct his course and get back on a track that rids the world of acts of terrorism. This task has been much more difficult to execute because the course has lead us deeper and deeper into the shitmire. It is a lot tougher to change course from here. His legacy is going to be the burden for future Presidents, as well as America, to endure.
    ...
    If he were serious about 'Winning The war on Terrorism', he would put all of America's resources towards it... placing 300,000 U.S. troops to secure Iraq... even if it meant re-instituting the Selective Service draft. But, he's not serious about it. He's doing it on the cheap... and has been doing so from the start. Yeah, the draft would be immensely unpopular... but, in the long run... if it leads to a stable Iraq that was rebuilt into a Western Styled Democracy... which he envisions... then, what you are saying may become true.

    You may very well be right there. I do not know military strategy very well. All I am arguing here is that Bush believes that what he is doing is for the best and building his legacy based on what he believes is right. Many people disagree with the things that FDR did that inflated his legacy as well. This does nothing to take away from the legacy that he left. I am not trying to compare Bush to FDR, just stating that, whatever legacy is left is subject to the interpretation of the people.
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    zstillings wrote:
    You may very well be right there. I do not know military strategy very well. All I am arguing here is that Bush believes that what he is doing is for the best and building his legacy based on what he believes is right. Many people disagree with the things that FDR did that inflated his legacy as well. This does nothing to take away from the legacy that he left. I am not trying to compare Bush to FDR, just stating that, whatever legacy is left is subject to the interpretation of the people.
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    I too am sure that the things Bush is doing today will get muddled up with the passage of time. But, it is almost undeniable that the Iraq War is his war and will always be seen as his war and will be a great part, if not the only part, of how his Presidency is viewed in the future. Just like Nixon will never be able to shake 'Watergate' off of his name.
    Bush got a off to a good start... after the September 11th attacks and the 'Just Cause' campaign in Afghanistan against al Qaeda and the Taliban... but, that will probably get lost in the mire as time passes.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • Smellyman2
    Smellyman2 Posts: 689
    zstillings wrote:
    The war, good or bad. He believes in what he is doing meaning that staying the course is going to be his legacy. He believes that it is for the best. To say that he is doing nothing to help his legacy though is one-sided.

    So Bush is retarded.
  • lastexit78
    lastexit78 Posts: 618
    I think Neil said it best...

    Back in the days of "mission accomplished"
    Our chief was landing on the deck
    The sun was setting on a golden photo op
    Back in the days of "mission accomplished"
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  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    zstillings wrote:
    Absolutely. Some people point to that in their unfavorable analysis of the administration. Every President is concerned with his legacy.


    hey, bush already explained this!!! it's not his fault for the banner or even his staff, who had it made and brought it w/ them, it's all the fault of the military b/c they were the ones who actually hung up the banner..
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    zstillings wrote:
    The war, good or bad. He believes in what he is doing meaning that staying the course is going to be his legacy. He believes that it is for the best. To say that he is doing nothing to help his legacy though is one-sided.

    bush is nothing more than a puppet
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
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