Rant

Ahnimus

dayan wrote:

ok first, these statements are pretty clearly factually false to any observer not pre-disposed to paranoid delusion. There are many Jews involved in finance who have done quite well. That is true. It is not true to say that they control the financial system, any more than it is to say that wasps control the financial system because there are alot of rich wasps. When you start saying that the Jews control finance you have crossed the line. you are dealing in paranoid fantasy. And you're right that saying that Jews control European finance isn't the same as saying Jews are an inferior race, but that doesn't mean that it is any less anti-semitic. such statements still inspire hatred and fear of Jews by portraying them as the devious and secretive masters pulling the strings behind the scenes. And I don't think there is anything wrong with trying to understand what led Hitler to do what he did, except there is a difference between saying that Hitler believed that Jews controlled European finance and saying that Jews actually did control European finance.

Don't the Rothschilds control European finance?

the face

Ahnimus wrote:

I'm mean, it's so fucked up, I can't even say Jew without looking over my shoulder. The term Jew is almost taboo. What a world we live in.

My biggest problem is that, trying to limit what people say, to the extent they will not even talk about Jews or use the term.

it doesnt seem to stop you. if i had a nickel for every time you said jew or israel on this site id be rich. what the obsession dude?

the face

dayan wrote:

ok first, these statements are pretty clearly factually false to any observer not pre-disposed to paranoid delusion. There are many Jews involved in finance who have done quite well. That is true. It is not true to say that they control the financial system, any more than it is to say that wasps control the financial system because there are alot of rich wasps. When you start saying that the Jews control finance you have crossed the line. you are dealing in paranoid fantasy. And you're right that saying that Jews control European finance isn't the same as saying Jews are an inferior race, but that doesn't mean that it is any less anti-semitic. such statements still inspire hatred and fear of Jews by portraying them as the devious and secretive masters pulling the strings behind the scenes. And I don't think there is anything wrong with trying to understand what led Hitler to do what he did, except there is a difference between saying that Hitler believed that Jews controlled European finance and saying that Jews actually did control European finance.

its the same age old jewish conspiracy crap that gave rise to the nazis. same shit. i would be shocked if anusmouth doesn't have mein kampf as his favorite book of the month.

Ahnimus

the face wrote:

it doesnt seem to stop you. if i had a nickel for every time you said jew or israel on this site id be rich. what the obsession dude?

I'm not obsessed. I'm just trying to converse about the topic at hand.

Ahnimus

the face wrote:

its the same age old jewish conspiracy crap that gave rise to the nazis. same shit. i would be shocked if anusmouth doesn't have mein kampf as his favorite book of the month.

I've never read it, but I've been meaning to. I think most people on this board realize by now that I have an interest in psychology and I'm curious what Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf. It would be a good way to get insight into his mind and his motives. Though, I'm pretty sure I'm on the right track anyway.

So, just so you know, this is my interest. I understand you are "new" and trying to make a good impression, so I will give you the benefit of the doubt.

the face

Ahnimus wrote:

I'm not obsessed. I'm just trying to converse about the topic at hand.

your unnaturally obsessed with all things jew and israel. you claim to read the talmud....thats not obsessed? hmmm.

Ahnimus

the face wrote:

your unnaturally obsessed with all things jew and israel. you claim to read the talmud....thats not obsessed? hmmm.

Nope, that's curious.

I'm curious about you "the face".

Have you ever thought about having sex with your mother?
What is your favorite color?

Mmmhmm

Ok, and were you ever abused as a child?

I see. mmmhmm

Ok, well, I think I understand. Take 2 of these every day and call me in a week.

the face

Ahnimus wrote:

I've never read it, but I've been meaning to. I think most people on this board realize by now that I have an interest in psychology and I'm curious what Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf. It would be a good way to get insight into his mind and his motives. Though, I'm pretty sure I'm on the right track anyway.

So, just so you know, this is my interest. I understand you are "new" and trying to make a good impression, so I will give you the benefit of the doubt.

well at least i got you pegged right. can you just say it? Im an ant semite. Go on, say it. the truth will set u free

the face

Ahnimus wrote:

Nope, that's curious.

I'm curious about you "the face".

Have you ever thought about having sex with your mother?
What is your favorite color?

Mmmhmm

Ok, and were you ever abused as a child?

I see. mmmhmm

Ok, well, I think I understand. Take 2 of these every day and call me in a week.

YOU want to report ME? Now thats funny; As for mothers, yours was great. leave mine out of it.

Ahnimus

the face wrote:

well at least i got you pegged right. can you just say it? Im an ant semite. Go on, say it. the truth will set u free

Some of my friends are semites. Why would I say that?

the face

Ahnimus wrote:

I've never read it, but I've been meaning to. I think most people on this board realize by now that I have an interest in psychology and I'm curious what Hitler wrote in Mein Kampf. It would be a good way to get insight into his mind and his motives. Though, I'm pretty sure I'm on the right track anyway.

So, just so you know, this is my interest. I understand you are "new" and trying to make a good impression, so I will give you the benefit of the doubt.

cmon man, can i get an exception from you on this guy at least. he wants to read mein kampf dude.....

Ahnimus

the face wrote:

YOU want to report ME? Now thats funny; As for mothers, yours was great. leave mine out of it.

I'm joking around with you dude. You seem to have an aggression and communication complex. Have you considered psychiatric help? I don't mean this in a degrading way, it can really be an enlightening experience.

mammasan

the face wrote:

cmon man, can i get an exception from you on this guy at least. he wants to read mein kampf dude.....

I read Mein Kampf, but that doesn't make me an anti-semite, just as reading the Communist Manufesto doesn't make someone a communist. Let me just say the language you have decides to resort to in your attacks is in extremely poor taste.

Byrnzie

the face wrote:

But when you see that someone has started 20 or more anti israel threads with hundreds of anti israel posts it sure appears to be more than just an issue with the State of Israel.....

So you don't think that the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is one of the major issues of our time and deserves to be discussed then? I feel pasionately about the injustice of the situation. And I feel no need to apologise for that.

Byrnzie

dayan wrote:

On the train right now are links to interviews run on major news networks with David Duke and an anti-zionist rabbi. During the war between Israel and Lebanon this summer there were constantly interviews with very eloquent Lebanese officials who were extremely critical of Israel. I think generally most news outlets do their best to present both sides of an issue, so I don't see how you can say that the media silences criticism of Israel.

On the Train? Not on the mainstream news though? '...there were constantly interviews with very eloquent Lebanese officials who were extremely critical of Israel.'? Really? And where were these?
I live in England and the news media is blatantly biased in favour of Israel. It's so obvious that the issue is raised here again and again in chatrooms and 'have your say' sections of the media, and yet nothing changes.

even flow?

mammasan wrote:

I'm starting to get a bit sick and tired at the labeling that is occuring on this message board. Racism is not something that should be taken lightly nor should that label be through around lightly. Not all of us are going to agree on this board and that is the beauty of it. If we all had the same opinion none of would be able to learn from each other. Anti-semtism is a term that I have seen pop up more and more frequently on this board. We all have different opinions and levels of support for Israel. Some of us fully support Israel and it's actions, other stand in the middle, and others still are completely against many of Israels actions. This is especially true in regards to the Israel/Palestinian situation. We don't see eye to eye, but lately that has been reason to label someone an anti-semite. That term carries such a vile and disturbing meaning, as it should, much like most racist labels. I don't know of anyone on this board that would fit the description of an anti-semite. Do some people here disagree with Israeli policy? Yes. Do some here disagree with the manner in which the state of Israel was created? Yes. No one here, that I have seen, wishes ill will on Israelies or Jews or thinks that Jews should not have a land of their own and the ability to live a peacefull life. I view it as me labeling people who support to deportation of all illegal immigrants racist simply because most are hispanic. That would be a diplorable act by me to label someone something so vile simply because I don't agree with. I'm sure I will get an ear full or maybe even called an anti-semite for this but I just had to get it off my chest.

If I was taught all my life that people hated me for nothing other than a story passed down from generation to generation and never tried to change. I would toss around that term at will to make myself feel better too. Wouldn't you? I am a card carrying anti-semite. Anointed by the chosen people who visit this board themselves. If at first you feel slighted because you know you are wrong and still trying to defend one's race. Play the race card. Makes you that much of a bigger person.

Hey! Stop putting the past in the future and life may get a hell of a lot better for not just you lot but everybody else who likes to live life that way. You run into walls when you keep looking over your shoulder.

inmytree

mammasan wrote:

I'm starting to get a bit sick and tired at the labeling that is occuring on this message board. Racism is not something that should be taken lightly nor should that label be through around lightly. Not all of us are going to agree on this board and that is the beauty of it. If we all had the same opinion none of would be able to learn from each other. Anti-semtism is a term that I have seen pop up more and more frequently on this board. We all have different opinions and levels of support for Israel. Some of us fully support Israel and it's actions, other stand in the middle, and others still are completely against many of Israels actions. This is especially true in regards to the Israel/Palestinian situation. We don't see eye to eye, but lately that has been reason to label someone an anti-semite. That term carries such a vile and disturbing meaning, as it should, much like most racist labels. I don't know of anyone on this board that would fit the description of an anti-semite. Do some people here disagree with Israeli policy? Yes. Do some here disagree with the manner in which the state of Israel was created? Yes. No one here, that I have seen, wishes ill will on Israelies or Jews or thinks that Jews should not have a land of their own and the ability to live a peacefull life. I view it as me labeling people who support to deportation of all illegal immigrants racist simply because most are hispanic. That would be a diplorable act by me to label someone something so vile simply because I don't agree with. I'm sure I will get an ear full or maybe even called an anti-semite for this but I just had to get it off my chest.

well stated, as usual, mammasan...

I think when a term like "anti-semite" is overused and misused, it tends to desensitize the true meaning...

also, as the great EF? stated...playing the race card is lame...

I happen to think that some enjoy playing the victim, wearing it around their neck like a big stinky albatross..."my people are hated, oh whoa is me"...

There is no gov't, religion, culture, and so on, that is perfect...each has it's faults...and just because someone points out those faults, it does not automatically mean that person is a anti-anything...

hailhailkc

inmytree wrote:

I happen to think that some enjoy playing the victim, wearing it around their neck like a big stinky albatross..."my people are hated, oh whoa is me"...

That's a fair statement, as long as you agree that there are some people on this board who constantly enjoy making the Palestenians their "victim".

stuckinline

i hate 'labeling' and 'name calling'. it seems so childish to 'label' someone.



how's it going mammasan?

redrock

mammasan wrote:

I read Mein Kampf, .

Mein Kampf was one of our 'reading books' when I was at school. It was read by all and debated.