I'm starting to see this more and more each day. SCARY
Do you also find anti-Iraq and anti-Iran and anti-Lebanon and anti-Palestinian and anti-North Korea discussions deplorable? What's the difference? Nobody has talked badly about JEWS. It's the militaristic Zionist Israeli state that people have a problem. Not the Jews. Want me to draw a picture for you? Maybe flash cards?
More importantly, what does any of this whining have to do with the original discussion?
24 years old, mid-life crisis
nowadays hits you when you're young
Do you also find anti-Iraq and anti-Iran and anti-Lebanon and anti-Palestinian and anti-North Korea discussions deplorable? What's the difference? Nobody has talked badly about JEWS. It's the militaristic Zionist Israeli state that people have a problem. Not the Jews. Want me to draw a picture for you? Maybe flash cards?
More importantly, what does any of this whining have to do with the original discussion?
a picture would be very nice. THANKS!!! I like pictures!!
Do you also find anti-Iraq and anti-Iran and anti-Lebanon and anti-Palestinian and anti-North Korea discussions deplorable? What's the difference? Nobody has talked badly about JEWS. It's the militaristic Zionist Israeli state that people have a problem. Not the Jews. Want me to draw a picture for you? Maybe flash cards?
More importantly, what does any of this whining have to do with the original discussion?
It's quite common for people to cry racism and divert the attention from the original topic to an endless arguement over what racism is. I must apologize for assisting in the diversion.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
It's quite common for people to cry racism and divert the attention from the original topic to an endless arguement over what racism is. I must apologize for assisting in the diversion.
I support the jews for what theyve given us, where as the arabs have no benefitted my life at all. Can you name that great arab band? Cause i certainly cant.
I support the jews for what theyve given us, where as the arabs have no benefitted my life at all. Can you name that great arab band? Cause i certainly cant.
Bedouin Soundclash? Ok, they aren't arab, but many arabs are bedouins.
Don't forget who brought you Mohammad Ali
Hey, I know a lot of great arabs and that's what they bring me, a smile to my face and a healthy friendship. If you avoid them and choose not to know them, then that's your loss.
Also, what have the Jews given us that Muslims haven't?
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
I think Black parents from Louisville, Kentucky brought Mohammad Ali. You do realize he <wink> converted to Islam and changed his name to avoid the draft right?
I think Black parents from Louisville, Kentucky brought Mohammad Ali. You do realize he <wink> converted to Islam and changed his name to avoid the draft right?
haha, no I didn't know that.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
I support the jews for what theyve given us, where as the arabs have no benefitted my life at all. Can you name that great arab band? Cause i certainly cant.
The ALPHABET???? lol
24 years old, mid-life crisis
nowadays hits you when you're young
I support the jews for what theyve given us, where as the arabs have no benefitted my life at all. Can you name that great arab band? Cause i certainly cant.
Hmmm, even these people think you're a racist! Nice. :cool:
I'll just ignore what you said, I wouldn't want you to regret it later.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
With the recent conflicts in the Mid-East involving Israel, I wanted to do some research on Israel and the purpose and history of its creation. It led me to the Holocaust, and some interesting writings on the topic. I've done much study on it in college and on my own over the years, always being a big war/WW2 buff and history enthusiast. I've always read about the Holocaust deniers as nuts and quackpots, but never fully studied their 'reasoning'. Then I stumbled upon this article:
It doesn't appear to be written by someone who's mentally unstable or racist, but rather a very informed and logical thinking person. It's persuasive. That scares me. I've tried doing a lot of research to discredit him, and am still in the long process of gathering all of the information I can, but I'd like to see some input. Please read this and let me know what you think. I don't want blanket statements, misinformed opinions or hate speech, but reasoned debate. Help me out. The implications of this are mindboggling.
What makes you think the author is very well informed?
Ladies and gentlmen, Sarcasm has left the building.... :rolleyes:
Sarcasm is often misinterpreted in text. That's the bane of internet chat, lack of tone and understanding a persons real intent.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
What makes you think the author is very well informed?
He's done research, looking up footnotes and finding literature that others quote from. I'd call that somewhat 'informed', wouldn't you? Self informed at that.
24 years old, mid-life crisis
nowadays hits you when you're young
sarcasm has a big place in life, but if you start a thread you want taken seriously, perhaps you should be a bit more serious, and save the sarcasm.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. WTF are you talking about? When did I ever make jokes here? I was simply implying that the poster YOU quoted was being sarcastic!!! My post is completely serious, and I hoped for reason debate. Where was I sarcastic in my initial post, pray tell?
If my thread is overtaken with Arab-haters trying to start fights and calling names, excuse me for injecting a little sarcasm. :rolleyes:
24 years old, mid-life crisis
nowadays hits you when you're young
He's done research, looking up footnotes and finding literature that others quote from. I'd call that somewhat 'informed', wouldn't you? Self informed at that.
there is a big difference between "informed", as opposed to being dilligent in finding others to corraborate rediculous claims.
It doesn't take an enlightened person to "do research, look up footnotes or find literature".
You are being drawn in by the author's form, rather then his substence.
Whoa, whoa, whoa. WTF are you talking about? When did I ever make jokes here? I was simply implying that the poster YOU quoted was being sarcastic!!! My post is completely serious, and I hoped for reason debate. Where was I sarcastic in my initial post, pray tell?
If my thread is overtaken with Arab-haters trying to start fights and calling names, excuse me for injecting a little sarcasm. :rolleyes:
I was referring to that Animus fella, who made the wise crack about giving the jews Quebec.
there is a big difference between "informed", as opposed to being dilligent in finding others to corraborate rediculous claims.
It doesn't take an enlightened person to "do research, look up footnotes or find literature".
You are being drawn in by the author's form, rather then his substence.
Informed:
1. Possessing, displaying, or based on reliable information: informed sources; an informed opinion.
2. Knowledgeable; educated: the informed consumer.
He has looked up the footnotes listed in other literature: that's educating himself.
He's read testimony of witnesses and Nazi officials: he possesses reliable information.
Really, I can go on, it's so obvious what I'm getting at and that using the word 'informed' is certainly in the right context.
You guys are REALLY trying to discredit any little thing, aren't you? Have any of you actually read these pieces? Please, try to have some real debate on the topic, and divert from all of this nitpicking and Arab-hating, ok?
24 years old, mid-life crisis
nowadays hits you when you're young
I was referring to that Animus fella, who made the wise crack about giving the jews Quebec.
sorry if there is a mix-up
Sorry, are you a french-canadian? It was a sarcastic joke, it's well known in Canada that some Quebecers have long wanted to seperate from Canada, given that the Brittish empire gave palestine to the Jews, I suggest we do the same thing to resolve both of our problems, but it was just a joke. I never thought I'd have to explain that.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
I'm done with this thread. I knew it was inevitable the sociopaths of the board would come in to disrupt it. Such is the Moving Train. At least Reborncareerist promised to respond at some point. I leave the pissing match to those with more time on their hands - enjoy. If you want to actually discuss the initial posting civilly, please do so.
24 years old, mid-life crisis
nowadays hits you when you're young
I'm done with this thread. I knew it was inevitable the sociopaths of the board would come in to disrupt it. Such is the Moving Train. At least Reborncareerist promised to respond at some point. I leave the pissing match to those with more time on their hands - enjoy. If you want to actually discuss the initial posting civilly, please do so.
I mess up that name every time I see it. I always think Reborncareerracist, but I guess that's not it at all.
Sorry for fucking up your thread :(
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Informed:
1. Possessing, displaying, or based on reliable information: informed sources; an informed opinion.
2. Knowledgeable; educated: the informed consumer.
He has looked up the footnotes listed in other literature: that's educating himself.
He's read testimony of witnesses and Nazi officials: he possesses reliable information.
Really, I can go on, it's so obvious what I'm getting at and that using the word 'informed' is certainly in the right context.
You guys are REALLY trying to discredit any little thing, aren't you? Have any of you actually read these pieces? Please, try to have some real debate on the topic, and divert from all of this nitpicking and Arab-hating, ok?
The fact that he found a few witnesses and Nazi officials to back his claim doesn't comstitute reliable information......the fact that someone provides you with the answers you want to hear doesn't mean you are receiving reliable information.
Not withstanding the subject matter, you reasoning is quite flawed, my friend.
Anyone can give testimony......do you believe everything you read?
I have never mentioned anything about arab-hating.
My father has a tattoo on his arm..its his ID# he received in a concentartion camp.
I never received a hug from my grandparents because they were systematically killed in a nazi death camp.
That is my testimony. I consider myself very well-informed, as I received the information first hand from my father, as well as the countless survivors who were/are part of my life. Sorry, but they didn't refer me to any footnotes.
And, please, spare me your "But you aren't impartial" response.
well germany has just decided to open all its holocaust records and archives (juss like they did with all the STASI archives after east germany wound up). we will now come to know just how much of the holocaust was true and how much concocted "by the jewish media"
I have faced it, A life wasted...
Take my hand, my child of love
Come step inside my tears
Swim the magic ocean,
I've been crying all these years
well germany has just decided to open all its holocaust records and archives (juss like they did with all the STASI archives after east germany wound up). we will now come to know just how much of the holocaust was true and how much concocted "by the jewish media"
Where is it? How do I get it?
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
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Thank you jsand for turning this thread into a pissing match with your vitriole.
Go play somewhere else, and take your labels with you.
nowadays hits you when you're young
I'm starting to see this more and more each day. SCARY
Do you also find anti-Iraq and anti-Iran and anti-Lebanon and anti-Palestinian and anti-North Korea discussions deplorable? What's the difference? Nobody has talked badly about JEWS. It's the militaristic Zionist Israeli state that people have a problem. Not the Jews. Want me to draw a picture for you? Maybe flash cards?
More importantly, what does any of this whining have to do with the original discussion?
nowadays hits you when you're young
a picture would be very nice. THANKS!!! I like pictures!!
It's quite common for people to cry racism and divert the attention from the original topic to an endless arguement over what racism is. I must apologize for assisting in the diversion.
I support the jews for what theyve given us, where as the arabs have no benefitted my life at all. Can you name that great arab band? Cause i certainly cant.
Bedouin Soundclash? Ok, they aren't arab, but many arabs are bedouins.
Don't forget who brought you Mohammad Ali
Hey, I know a lot of great arabs and that's what they bring me, a smile to my face and a healthy friendship. If you avoid them and choose not to know them, then that's your loss.
Also, what have the Jews given us that Muslims haven't?
I think Black parents from Louisville, Kentucky brought Mohammad Ali. You do realize he <wink> converted to Islam and changed his name to avoid the draft right?
haha, no I didn't know that.
The ALPHABET???? lol
nowadays hits you when you're young
Hmmm, even these people think you're a racist! Nice. :cool:
http://www.adc.org/index.php?id=247&type=100
nowadays hits you when you're young
Nice link!
I'll just ignore what you said, I wouldn't want you to regret it later.
You want people to not take this as an anti-jewish thread, yet still, you make comments such as these.
A bit of a hypocrit, you are!
Ladies and gentlmen, Sarcasm has left the building.... :rolleyes:
nowadays hits you when you're young
What makes you think the author is very well informed?
Sarcasm is often misinterpreted in text. That's the bane of internet chat, lack of tone and understanding a persons real intent.
sarcasm has a big place in life, but if you start a thread you want taken seriously, perhaps you should be a bit more serious, and save the sarcasm.
He's done research, looking up footnotes and finding literature that others quote from. I'd call that somewhat 'informed', wouldn't you? Self informed at that.
nowadays hits you when you're young
Whoa, whoa, whoa. WTF are you talking about? When did I ever make jokes here? I was simply implying that the poster YOU quoted was being sarcastic!!! My post is completely serious, and I hoped for reason debate. Where was I sarcastic in my initial post, pray tell?
If my thread is overtaken with Arab-haters trying to start fights and calling names, excuse me for injecting a little sarcasm. :rolleyes:
nowadays hits you when you're young
there is a big difference between "informed", as opposed to being dilligent in finding others to corraborate rediculous claims.
It doesn't take an enlightened person to "do research, look up footnotes or find literature".
You are being drawn in by the author's form, rather then his substence.
I was referring to that Animus fella, who made the wise crack about giving the jews Quebec.
sorry if there is a mix-up
Informed:
1. Possessing, displaying, or based on reliable information: informed sources; an informed opinion.
2. Knowledgeable; educated: the informed consumer.
He has looked up the footnotes listed in other literature: that's educating himself.
He's read testimony of witnesses and Nazi officials: he possesses reliable information.
Really, I can go on, it's so obvious what I'm getting at and that using the word 'informed' is certainly in the right context.
You guys are REALLY trying to discredit any little thing, aren't you? Have any of you actually read these pieces? Please, try to have some real debate on the topic, and divert from all of this nitpicking and Arab-hating, ok?
nowadays hits you when you're young
Sorry, are you a french-canadian? It was a sarcastic joke, it's well known in Canada that some Quebecers have long wanted to seperate from Canada, given that the Brittish empire gave palestine to the Jews, I suggest we do the same thing to resolve both of our problems, but it was just a joke. I never thought I'd have to explain that.
nowadays hits you when you're young
I mess up that name every time I see it. I always think Reborncareerracist, but I guess that's not it at all.
Sorry for fucking up your thread :(
The fact that he found a few witnesses and Nazi officials to back his claim doesn't comstitute reliable information......the fact that someone provides you with the answers you want to hear doesn't mean you are receiving reliable information.
Not withstanding the subject matter, you reasoning is quite flawed, my friend.
Anyone can give testimony......do you believe everything you read?
I have never mentioned anything about arab-hating.
My father has a tattoo on his arm..its his ID# he received in a concentartion camp.
I never received a hug from my grandparents because they were systematically killed in a nazi death camp.
That is my testimony. I consider myself very well-informed, as I received the information first hand from my father, as well as the countless survivors who were/are part of my life. Sorry, but they didn't refer me to any footnotes.
And, please, spare me your "But you aren't impartial" response.
Take my hand, my child of love
Come step inside my tears
Swim the magic ocean,
I've been crying all these years
Where is it? How do I get it?