the claim that liberals are CRITICAL of Palin for choosing to have her son....

mammasan

If election campaigns are going to run like some cheap Jerry Springer-esque reality show then they should at least make them entertaining. Have like an election Survivor. Drop all the candidates, Republican and Democrat alike, on some island and they have to duke it out to see who wins. No tribal meeting to vote people off, I'm talking last man standing death match. Each candidate picks someone they would like to run as their VP and simultaneously do the same with the VP candidates on a different island.

Brain of J.Lo

mammasan wrote:

If election campaigns are going to run like some cheap Jerry Springer-esque reality show then they should at least make them entertaining. Have like an election Survivor. Drop all the candidates, Republican and Democrat alike, on some island and they have to duke it out to see who wins. No tribal meeting to vote people off, I'm talking last man standing death match. Each candidate picks someone they would like to run as their VP and simultaneously do the same with the VP candidates on a different island.

Yeah, that's actually what my husband and I were saying. Leave it up to a physical fight. The results would mean no more or less than an actual election.

mammasan

Brain of J.Lo wrote:

Yeah, that's actually what my husband and I were saying. Leave it up to a physical fight. The results would mean no more or less than an actual election.

Not even a physical fight. Just the person who was resourceful enough to still be standing after say 6 months on a deserted island living off the land and their wits. I figure anyone who can do that deserves to be president.

Brain of J.Lo

mammasan wrote:

Not even a physical fight. Just the person who was resourceful enough to still be standing after say 6 months on a deserted island living off the land and their wits. I figure anyone who can do that deserves to be president.

lol, well I want to see them beating on each other... They pretty much all deserve to be roughed up a little.

jimed14

Brain of J.Lo wrote:

lol, well I want to see them beating on each other... They pretty much all deserve to be roughed up a little.

here you go ...

http://www.miniclip.com/games/presidential-pounding/en/

Lizard

cutback wrote:

christ this is gonna be a LONG 2 months :( :eek:

not if you ignore it all!!

anotherclone

mammasan wrote:

Just once I would love for the candidates to tell all their supporters, strategist and aides to shut the fuck up. Just once I would love both candidates to agree to keep the campaigns clean and only focus on the issues and to reinforce that pact with their posses. I love politics but I can't stand all the bullshit that tags along with it.

I love this post so much.

The Republicans are the ones bringing up these talking points in order to distract us from the fact that Palin is a typical conservative Republican with scandals looming in Alaska and not a friggin reformer.

If everyone thought for a minute, they'd realize the baby is a distraction from the issues. Every time the Republicans bring it up, it's to distract us. It is one less minute they are talking about the fact that she wanted to ban books from the library and was for the bridge to nowhere before she was against it.

Is the media that stupid? Wait. Don't answer that. I already know the answer.

decides2dream

cutback wrote:

christ this is gonna be a LONG 2 months :( :eek:

you got that right!



thing is, while we can say 'no one cares' what certain people say.....there ARE people who DO, and take it to heart, verbatim. my husband was just telling me of a group of NYers who still believe obama is muslim and/or a muslim supporter, and therefore as devout jews they cannot vote for him. meanwhile here, all i read is how pro-israeli obama is....so wtf? it's so sad it's comical...so comical it's sad...but really, it's just sad. all these non-issues, miscommunications, incorrect assumptions...and there ARe people who will vote based on this biased BS. scary!

mammasan

decides2dream wrote:

you got that right!



thing is, while we can say 'no one cares' what certain people say.....there ARE people who DO, and take it to heart, verbatim. my husband was just telling me of a group of NYers who still believe obama is muslim and/or a muslim supporter, and therefore as devout jews they cannot vote for him. meanwhile here, all i read is how pro-israeli obama is....so wtf? it's so sad it's comical...so comical it's sad...but really, it's just sad. all these non-issues, miscommunications, incorrect assumptions...and there ARe people who will vote based on this biased BS. scary!

You just summed up my parents, except they aren't Jewish. The other day my mother told me straight out that she would vote for Obama, this is a woman who has stated she would die before voting for a Democrat, but she believes that he is a Muslim and we can't have the enemy in the White House. I shit you not. I still love her to death but I just got up from my seat and told her that I was running late and had to leave. I refuse to engage in political discussions with my family because it makes me want to stick sharp objects in my ears till they bleed profusely. It amazes me that people believe this shit.

decides2dream

mammasan wrote:

You just summed up my parents, except they aren't Jewish. The other day my mother told me straight out that she would vote for Obama, this is a woman who has stated she would die before voting for a Democrat, but she believes that he is a Muslim and we can't have the enemy in the White House. I shit you not. I still love her to death but I just got up from my seat and told her that I was running late and had to leave. I refuse to engage in political discussions with my family because it makes me want to stick sharp objects in my ears till they bleed profusely. It amazes me that people believe this shit.

i hear that.
i have no idea where i got my politics from, b/c it sure as shit is not my family. although i will give my parents the credit of raising me to be informed, and to make my own decisions. so they have no one to blame but themselves. seriously.....i can GET disagreeing on topics, seeing things differently...but actually believing some of the BS spewed, with NO back-up...completely floors me.



and this whole idea of liberals being critical over palin making the CHOICE to have her downs syndrome child....well hell...someone simply is NOt paying attnetion, just saying libs rather than people who are, errrrr.....PRO-CHOICE. i know, i know...secretely we are all baby-killers and baby-haters.....certainly don't support a woman's right to choose her own way. :rolleyes:



btw - brainofjlo......i LOVe hearing of parents who are pro-choice....just warms my baby-killer heart.

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mammasan wrote:

You just summed up my parents, except they aren't Jewish. The other day my mother told me straight out that she would vote for Obama, this is a woman who has stated she would die before voting for a Democrat, but she believes that he is a Muslim and we can't have the enemy in the White House. I shit you not. I still love her to death but I just got up from my seat and told her that I was running late and had to leave. I refuse to engage in political discussions with my family because it makes me want to stick sharp objects in my ears till they bleed profusely. It amazes me that people believe this shit.

Hahaha! Last election I told one of my many conservative, religious family members, "You know, it's not true that you're going to hell if you don't vote for Bush." She said, "Well, I know... but just in case." :eek:

blacknapkins

mammasan wrote:

Just once I would love for the candidates to tell all their supporters, strategist and aides to shut the fuck up. Just once I would love both candidates to agree to keep the campaigns clean and only focus on the issues and to reinforce that pact with their posses. I love politics but I can't stand all the bullshit that tags along with it.

I'd love to see that, too, but they just can't do it. They love the dirty mud-slinging too much because, essentially, most politicians are mean-spirited little cry-babies who desperately want their way (whatever that is.) It's just a game to them. The media piles on and we just can't help ourselves and don't look away.

ofthegirl75

mammasan wrote:

I heard this being thrown around on Hannity's radio show yesterday evening but really no where else. I have a simple rule what ever Sean Hannity says I believe the opposite.

Don't watch Fox Noise!
They say "people are saying this about..." Yeah it's you judgemental idiots on Fox news saying whatever you want and blaming them radical liberals. Total BS.

know1

You gotta admit - the liberals are pretty much criticizing her for everything else, so why not criticize her for that too?

decides2dream

know1 wrote:

You gotta admit - the liberals are pretty much criticizing her for everything else, so why not criticize her for that too?

yea, that's helpful and accurate. :rolleyes:



given her stance on MANY issues, is it any wonder liberals might criticize her stands? seriously?



however, to say liberals are 'critical' or her choosing to give birth to her special needs child is just over the line ludicrous.

DixieN

Brain of J.Lo wrote:

If I hear one more allegation that liberals are criticizing Sarah Palin for choosing to give birth to a child with Down Syndrome, I think I might go on a violent rampage.

(Don't worry, it'll be an angry laundry-folding rampage...but it'll be fast and furious, for sure!)

I've heard this allegation 4 times now...yet I've heard absolutely NO one actually criticizing her choice. Is this infuriating anyone else? As a pro-choice mother, I find this absolutely revolting.

Well, the implication is that liberals are doing this. I notice during this convention the Republicans are saying that "they" are saying a lot of things that, basically, maybe somebody somewhere has once said, but that is certainly not being said by the Democratic party. The Republicans are saying "they, they, they" a lot and hoping that the interpretation is that Democrats are saying it. That way they can impute whatever they want to the Democrats (or liberals), without the Democrats ever having said anything as a party. It's all part of information massaging, to cause more divisions...it's what the Republicans know how to do, so they do it.