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harrymanbackharrymanback Posts: 435
edited September 2008 in A Moving Train
I hope this bashing of Obama being a community organizer will backfire ... and i think it will.
I don't want to be hostile. I don't want to be dismal. But I don't want to rot in an apathetic existance either.
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  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    i still can't believe the entire convention was laughing at a person doing community service....assholes :mad:
  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    I can't stand people who pride themselves on their stupidity.
  • PissBottleManPissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    I thought this message from Obama's Campaign manager David Plouffe was nicely put:

    "Community organizing is how ordinary people respond to out-of-touch politicians and their failed policies."

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

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  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    PissBottleMan wrote:
    I thought this message from Obama's Campaign manager David Plouffe was nicely put:

    "Community organizing is how ordinary people respond to out-of-touch politicians and their failed policies."

    PBM

    They should come back at this, come back it hard, and come back at it continuously, and Obama and Biden should definetely bring it up in the debates. I just hope the message is sounded as loudly and as forcefully as the Republicans seem to be pushing it. If people across the country have an accurate portrayal of what this job means, and see the Republicans demeaning it, it'll blow up in their faces.
  • Brain of J.LoBrain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    cutback wrote:
    i still can't believe the entire convention was laughing at a person doing community service....assholes :mad:

    lol. I know. You almost have to laugh about that. It says a lot.
  • peacegirlpeacegirl Posts: 841
    cutback wrote:
    i still can't believe the entire convention was laughing at a person doing community service....assholes :mad:

    LOL - Excellent Point!
  • harrymanbackharrymanback Posts: 435
    thanks wiki:
    (at the age of 24) After four years in New York City, Obama moved to Chicago to work as a community organizer for three years from June 1985 to May 1988 as director of the Developing Communities Project (DCP), a church-based community organization originally comprising eight Catholic parishes in Greater Roseland (Roseland, West Pullman, and Riverdale) on Chicago's far South Side. During his three years as the DCP's director, its staff grew from 1 to 13 and its annual budget grew from $70,000 to $400,000, with accomplishments including helping set up a job training program, a college preparatory tutoring program, and a tenants' rights organization in Altgeld Gardens.

    what a waste of time ... he should have been anchoring sports on local tv.
    I don't want to be hostile. I don't want to be dismal. But I don't want to rot in an apathetic existance either.
  • nfanelnfanel Posts: 2,558
    PissBottleMan wrote:
    I thought this message from Obama's Campaign manager David Plouffe was nicely put:

    "Community organizing is how ordinary people respond to out-of-touch politicians and their failed policies."

    PBM
    i liked his email...lots of good points in it.

    the republicans were over the top with their attacks last night. kind of took away "credibility" and all i could focus on was the sarcasm and bitterness. i was undecided for a while in all of this but there's no doubt who i'll be voting for now...especially since i agree with zero of palin's beliefs.

    (guiliani was especially ridiculous...and i used to like him.)
  • PissBottleManPissBottleMan Union City, TN Posts: 4,155
    nfanel wrote:
    (guiliani was especially ridiculous...and i used to like him.)

    Way to hammer home the 9-11 attacks with the NYC backdrop during his speech!

    PBM
    "We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"

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  • nfanelnfanel Posts: 2,558
    PissBottleMan wrote:
    Way to hammer home the 9-11 attacks with the NYC backdrop during his speech!

    PBM
    right, otherwise people might not have remembered where he was coming from. :p:D
  • JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,219
    nfanel wrote:
    i liked his email...lots of good points in it.

    the republicans were over the top with their attacks last night. kind of took away "credibility" and all i could focus on was the sarcasm and bitterness. i was undecided for a while in all of this but there's no doubt who i'll be voting for now...especially since i agree with zero of palin's beliefs.

    (guiliani was especially ridiculous...and i used to like him.)

    yeah, the attacks seemed out of control. I felt like she was about to throw her juice box and play-dough against the wall...so childish.
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  • ThecureThecure Posts: 814
    i personally believe that she was not making fun of community organizers but was saying how it is similar to being a mayor. peopel were making fum of her being a mayor of a small town but not the same for Obama.
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  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    While Obama was doing 'community organizing' (otherwise known as bullshit), Palin was being a true patriot- that is, hunting in the woods of American soil, (and teaching her daughter sex ed)!
  • harrymanbackharrymanback Posts: 435
    i do not think people were making fun of her being mayor ... i think they just were wondering why being mayor of a 7K person town qualifies her to be a VP.

    also, they keep saying she has more executive experience than the dem side combined ... doesn't she also have more executive experience than McCain? maybe her name should be at the top of the ballot.
    I don't want to be hostile. I don't want to be dismal. But I don't want to rot in an apathetic existance either.
  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    Thecure wrote:
    i personally believe that she was not making fun of community organizers but was saying how it is similar to being a mayor. peopel were making fum of her being a mayor of a small town but not the same for Obama.

    I don't see how anyone could take that view...

    Being a small town mayor is like "community organizing" with actual responsibilities.
    (Dumbass arena laughs heartily)

    How is that not poking fun at community organizers? I mean, do these people have any idea what community organizers do?
  • DOSWDOSW Posts: 2,014
    digster wrote:
    I don't see how anyone could take that view...

    Being a small town mayor is like "community organizing" with actual responsibilities.
    (Dumbass arena laughs heartily)

    How is that not poking fun at community organizers? I mean, do these people have any idea what community organizers do?

    I agree. That was one of the most childish, juvenile attacks I've yet heard in this election season. I hope this doesn't pass easily.
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  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    DOSW wrote:
    I agree. That was one of the most childish, juvenile attacks I've yet heard in this election season. I hope this doesn't pass easily.

    It will, because community organizers work primarily in urban, low-income, minority neighborhoods. No wonder these people have no clue what a community organizer is.
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    digster wrote:
    It will, because community organizers work primarily in urban, low-income, minority neighborhoods. No wonder these people have no clue what a community organizer is.

    hehehehehe.....ZING!!! :D
  • LizardLizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    nfanel wrote:
    i liked his email...lots of good points in it.

    the republicans were over the top with their attacks last night. kind of took away "credibility" and all i could focus on was the sarcasm and bitterness. i was undecided for a while in all of this but there's no doubt who i'll be voting for now...especially since i agree with zero of palin's beliefs.

    (guiliani was especially ridiculous...and i used to like him.)

    I know!!! It was TOTALLY negative.
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  • transplanttransplant Posts: 1,088
    digster wrote:
    I don't see how anyone could take that view...
    I guess I don't see how you are taking the view that Palin sits back with her buddies and makes fun of Community Organizers. People are cynical, however I don't believe anybody does this.

    the back in forth between Palin and Obama will be the experience factor obviously.

    If I am looking at applications for President/VP and under experience I see one with Community Organization and one with Mayor, well, Mayor holds a bit more weight with me. Without being in either position, I would think a Mayor would be held more accountable with greater responsibilities than a community organizer would. When push comes to shove, a Mayor will be held primarily responsible. I am not sure it would go that way with a Community Organizer. I think that was supposed to be the point.

    However, this quote can so easily go in the other direction that yeah, it will get pounced on, perhaps it should. I am still waiting for a certain quote made last night to get pounced upon. I can't believe I haven't seen it mentioned yet :)
  • ThecureThecure Posts: 814
    digster wrote:
    It will, because community organizers work primarily in urban, low-income, minority neighborhoods. No wonder these people have no clue what a community organizer is.

    "these People" thats right rep. don't know about being poor or being a minority. they all come from very rich families. "rolleyes"

    i am know going to look at what Palin community was like when she was mayor.
    People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
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  • ThecureThecure Posts: 814
    transplant wrote:
    I guess I don't see how you are taking the view that Palin sits back with her buddies and makes fun of Community Organizers. People are cynical, however I don't believe anybody does this.

    the back in forth between Palin and Obama will be the experience factor obviously.

    If I am looking at applications for President/VP and under experience I see one with Community Organization and one with Mayor, well, Mayor holds a bit more weight with me. Without being in either position, I would think a Mayor would be held more accountable with greater responsibilities than a community organizer would. When push comes to shove, a Mayor will be held primarily responsible. I am not sure it would go that way with a Community Organizer. I think that was supposed to be the point.

    However, this quote can so easily go in the other direction that yeah, it will get pounced on, perhaps it should. I am still waiting for a certain quote made last night to get pounced upon. I can't believe I haven't seen it mentioned yet :)

    my favorite quote was that Obama "has written 2 books but not one major law"
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  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    Thecure wrote:
    "these People" thats right rep. don't know about being poor or being a minority. they all come from very rich families. "rolleyes"

    i am know going to look at what Palin community was like when she was mayor.

    Republicans are certainly not all rich, certainly not all white, and certainly not all male. Were many, if not most, of the delegates and distinguished guests who laughed mockingly at someone who decided to devote his time to community service some of those stereotypical rich Republicans who don't give a shit about the urban poor? Considering their response to Palin's digs, I'm going to take a guess and say yes.

    Urban, minority, low-income men and women overwhelmingly vote Democratic. This is no secret.
  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    transplant wrote:
    I guess I don't see how you are taking the view that Palin sits back with her buddies and makes fun of Community Organizers. People are cynical, however I don't believe anybody does this.

    the back in forth between Palin and Obama will be the experience factor obviously.

    However, this quote can so easily go in the other direction that yeah, it will get pounced on, perhaps it should. I am still waiting for a certain quote made last night to get pounced upon. I can't believe I haven't seen it mentioned yet :)

    I mean, I can't convince you otherwise, but I don't know how anyone can read that line as anything other than a dig at the supposed worthlessness of a job such as community organizing. You're telling me when she said that being mayor is like being a community organizer except with actual responsibilities, what she was really saying was that community organizing is really great but I don't think it compares to my executive experience as mayor? Sorry, but I don't buy that for a moment, and I think the crowd's reaction proves my point.
  • jimed14jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    harrymanback wrote:
    i do not think people were making fun of her being mayor ... i think they just were wondering why being mayor of a 7K person town qualifies her to be a VP..

    Well she hired lobbists that secured millions of earmarks for her little town didn't she? Sounds like a grizzled washington politician to me.
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  • londonwprlondonwpr Posts: 293
    harrymanback wrote:
    i do not think people were making fun of her being mayor ... i think they just were wondering why being mayor of a 7K person town qualifies her to be a VP.

    also, they keep saying she has more executive experience than the dem side combined ... doesn't she also have more executive experience than McCain? maybe her name should be at the top of the ballot.

    I kept thinking the same thing as I watched the Republicans make fools of themselves last night. They kept going on and on about Obama's lack of executive experience. Last I checked McCain has no executive experience either.

    Sarah Palin got a few hundred votes and got elected mayor of a town of 7K. She also has been govenor of a state with a population of less than 700,000 for under 2 years. It's scary that she could possibly be a heart beat away from being the next President.
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  • ThecureThecure Posts: 814
    digster wrote:
    I don't see how anyone could take that view...

    Being a small town mayor is like "community organizing" with actual responsibilities.
    (Dumbass arena laughs heartily)

    How is that not poking fun at community organizers? I mean, do these people have any idea what community organizers do?

    i think you can make teh case that being a mayor has more responsibities as they are voted on by the public. but i disagree that Community organzers don't have actual responsibities, they do but of a different kind. i still believe that she was attacking Obama abotu this as people were attacking her about how she was just a mayor.
    People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
    - Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)

    If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
    - Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    PissBottleMan wrote:
    I thought this message from Obama's Campaign manager David Plouffe was nicely put:

    "Community organizing is how ordinary people respond to out-of-touch politicians and their failed policies."

    PBM

    In chicago right? Ain't that the Dem's territory and state and local policies? ;)
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  • musicismylife78musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
    being an organizer is admirable, but its becoming so much like that other overused phrase from 4 years ago, john edwards famous "son of a millworker".

    these people repeat it over and over again. its like couldnt their speechwriters come up with anything else?

    Or Mccains "footsoldier in the reagan revolution"
  • Vedderlution_BabyVedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    radiohead33 wrote:
    being an organizer is admirable, but its becoming so much like that other overused phrase from 4 years ago, john edwards famous "son of a millworker".

    these people repeat it over and over again. its like couldnt their speechwriters come up with anything else?

    Or Mccains "footsoldier in the reagan revolution"


    Mccain was a footsoldier in the american revolution.

    (Sorry, but there is just no way I could've possibly passed that up)
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