Who Eddie Supports

Gen5Gen5 Posts: 405
edited April 2008 in A Moving Train
It REALLY is official.....He supports OBAMA.....He had a huge banner came out mid show at the first Berkeley show. SO, I think that strongly says who he is voting for.
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  • Not surprising considering the Kerry endorsement of '04. Maybe he'll support him enough to contribute to his campaign soon. ;)

    http://www.opensecrets.org/indivs/search.asp?key=gamvv&txtName=vedder&txtState=(all%20states)&txtAll=Y&Order=N


    Abook is supporting Nader. It's official!! :p:D:)

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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Maybe he'll support him enough to contribute to his campaign soon. ;)

    kick back and enjoy the 2008 VFC tour...
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    dont forget the Obama button proudly displayed on Ed's poster from the secret shows in west seattle last week...

    http://www.expressobeans.com/public/detail.php/76804
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    i cant support obama. I dont support the war.
  • macgyver06 wrote:
    i cant support obama. I dont support the war.

    for kicks switch around the can't and the don't

    I don't support Obama. I can't support the war.
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  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    for kicks switch around the can't and the don't

    I don't support Obama. I can't support the war.


    good people tricked into supporting a war... how do you end it


    its sad
  • eekamouseeekamouse Posts: 267
    Who cares who Eddie supports?

    He obviously is selling out, like he did when he joined this band.

    Ya... I just fucking did.

    I'm only half kidding here. Weak. I just hope Obama isn't lying. I'm almost willing to vote for him to find out.
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  • sweetpotatosweetpotato Posts: 1,278
    i'm not looking for a fight, i'm just wondering why he's supporting obama and not nader. what are his thoughts on nader's candidacy? i know no one here knows; i'm just thinking out loud.
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  • Number 18Number 18 Posts: 132
    my2hands wrote:
    dont forget the Obama button proudly displayed on Ed's poster from the secret shows in west seattle last week...

    http://www.expressobeans.com/public/detail.php/76804

    How the hell do you find out about secret shows? Obviously it isn't easy or they wouldn't be secret, but there's gotta be some tips on how to figure out when/where they are played...

    These shows were only a few blocks from my house...
  • my2hands wrote:
    kick back and enjoy the 2008 VFC tour...

    I think I'll pass.

    And to be clear, I was speaking of a monetary donation. I guess he really doesn't love the guy the way Stone seems to but rather is pushing a 'anyone but McCain' type strategy. Just my speculation, though, could be wrong.
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  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    Gen5 wrote:
    It REALLY is official.....He supports OBAMA.....He had a huge banner came out mid show at the first Berkeley show. SO, I think that strongly says who he is voting for.

    Yehhhh now we can all vote for Obama ;)
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  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    I'm willing to bet he wrote a pro-Obama song, before anyone, and he's waiting for the best moment to sing it. ;)
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    Obama, his publicity campaign and his effect on many Americans is like one of those late night commercials for some goofy product (that always seems to come on TV when it's 2:30 AM and you're stoned).


    It seems really neat, because they market and talk it up like it's the next best thing since sliced bread. Seems like it can do a thousand cool things and do it well.

    So you get sucked in and buy into it.

    Then you get a package, open it up to use it.

    First time you try to use it, you realize it's just another worthless, flimsy piece of plastic which is useless, certainly not functional and that you won't accomplish a damn thing with it.

    So you chuck into the back of your closet with the rest of your useless plastics gadgets. And it fits right in with the rest of the useless plastic crap; where it will sit for the next four to eight years. Till it's time to clean out your closet, again.
  • _Crazy_Mary__Crazy_Mary_ Posts: 1,299
    Oh Eddie supports Obama! Let the sheeple Obamania begin.
    I really screwed that up. I really Schruted it.
  • brandon10brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    NMyTree wrote:
    Obama, his publicity campaign and his effect on many Americans is like one of those late night commercials for some goofy product (that always seems to come on TV when it's 2:30 AM and you're stoned).


    It seems really neat, because they market and talk it up like it's the next best thing since sliced bread. Seems like it can do a thousand cool things and do it well.

    So you get sucked in and buy into it.

    Then you get a package, open it up to use it.

    First time you try to use it, you realize it's just another worthless, flimsy piece of plastic which is useless, certainly not functional and that you won't accomplish a damn thing with it.

    So you chuck into the back of your closet with the rest of your useless plastics gadgets. And it fits right in with the rest of the useless plastic crap; where it will sit for the next four to eight years. Till it's time to clean out your closet, again.


    Obama is the George Foreman Grill of late night products.....Those things are fantastic!!!!
  • SilverSeedSilverSeed Posts: 336
    NMyTree wrote:
    Obama, his publicity campaign and his effect on many Americans is like one of those late night commercials for some goofy product (that always seems to come on TV when it's 2:30 AM and you're stoned).


    It seems really neat, because they market and talk it up like it's the next best thing since sliced bread. Seems like it can do a thousand cool things and do it well.

    So you get sucked in and buy into it.

    Then you get a package, open it up to use it.

    First time you try to use it, you realize it's just another worthless, flimsy piece of plastic which is useless, certainly not functional and that you won't accomplish a damn thing with it.

    So you chuck into the back of your closet with the rest of your useless plastics gadgets. And it fits right in with the rest of the useless plastic crap; where it will sit for the next four to eight years. Till it's time to clean out your closet, again.

    This could be the worst analogy I've ever read. Thumbs down.
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  • SilverSeedSilverSeed Posts: 336
    brandon10 wrote:
    Obama is the George Foreman Grill of late night products.....Those things are fantastic!!!!

    Ah much better. Now just get Billy Mays to sell it and we're golden!
    When Jesus said "Love your enemies" he probably didn't mean kill them...

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  • brandon10brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    Oh Eddie supports Obama! Let the sheeple Obamania begin.


    Baaaaahaahaarack 08
  • Yeah, there is no single rational person that supports Obama...... Keep thinking that. One thing the hard left and the far right can agree on, anyone that doesn't share their opinion is being irrational and is somehow inferior (usually folks on the right will say morally, folks on the hard left would say intellectually). Who needs to respect people with different opinions anyway?

    NMyTree wrote:
    Obama, his publicity campaign and his effect on many Americans is like one of those late night commercials for some goofy product (that always seems to come on TV when it's 2:30 AM and you're stoned).


    It seems really neat, because they market and talk it up like it's the next best thing since sliced bread. Seems like it can do a thousand cool things and do it well.

    So you get sucked in and buy into it.

    Then you get a package, open it up to use it.

    First time you try to use it, you realize it's just another worthless, flimsy piece of plastic which is useless, certainly not functional and that you won't accomplish a damn thing with it.

    So you chuck into the back of your closet with the rest of your useless plastics gadgets. And it fits right in with the rest of the useless plastic crap; where it will sit for the next four to eight years. Till it's time to clean out your closet, again.
  • Yeah, there is no single rational person that supports Obama...... Keep thinking that. One thing the hard left and the far right can agree on, anyone that doesn't share their opinion is being irrational and is somehow inferior (usually folks on the right will say morally, folks on the hard left would say intellectually). Who needs to respect people with different opinions anyway?

    Oh that is not being fair. I have been told on this board by many Obama supporters that Obama is the only way to vote if I want to end this war and I need to 'realize it', that my thoughts on withdrawal and foreign policy are irrational because I don't like Obama's views on it, that a vote for Nader is a vote for Mickey Mouse or McCain and those are off the top of my head. Let's not look the other way when it's people you agree with. It's not just people from any 'group'...it's all over the place from all types here.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    SilverSeed wrote:
    This could be the worst analogy I've ever read. Thumbs down.

    I'm okay with that.

    Doesn't detract from the fact that it's accurate.
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    SilverSeed wrote:
    Ah much better. Now just get Billy Mays to sell it and we're golden!

    The George Foreman Grill actually works very well. You just have to clean it well, after every cooking session.

    So I disagree with it being an analogy for Obama.
  • It is, in my experience, both on the internet and in person (this is obviously anecdotal evidence, I doubt theres any peer reviewed study done on this anyway) that the most common critique of Obama supporters, and this is from Nader folks, Repubs and Clinton folks, that they are sheep. That somehow every supporter has been indoctrinated into some cult. I disagree strongly with folks in the democratic party that demonize nader and other third party candidates, hell, I voted for David Cobb in 2004. That being said, I understand the "lesser of two evils" strategy and think that someone can come to that conclusion with rationality. Thats certainly part of why I'm supporting Senator Obama this election. I'm not turning a blind eye to anything, I've just noticed, specifically on this board the repetition of the idea that Obama people = sheep and felt like speaking on that subject.
  • Gen5Gen5 Posts: 405
    Just to clear things up....I didn't start the thread b/c I needed Ed to tell me how to vote....My primary has come and gone months ago....I think it's silly that people vote just b/c a "celebrity" is throwing their support behind a canidate. Personally I am THRILLED that he isn't supporting Nader (my opinion, never liked him....however he picked a good running mate).

    I started this thread b/c there was so much speculation around who he was supporting. Even after the poster came out. That's all......

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  • brandon10brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    Oh that is not being fair. I have been told on this board by many Obama supporters that Obama is the only way to vote if I want to end this war and I need to 'realize it', that my thoughts on withdrawal and foreign policy are irrational because I don't like Obama's views on it, that a vote for Nader is a vote for Mickey Mouse or McCain and those are off the top of my head. Let's not look the other way when it's people you agree with. It's not just people from any 'group'...it's all over the place from all types here.


    You are right Abook, I have been guilty of this myself. But to call Obama supporters sheep and Obamamaniacs is clearly showing your jealousy of our candidate. He has as many supporters, actually way more supporters that understand his views than the other candidates. But because he also has great charisma and a likable personality he gathers many more supporters. I don't think it's such a bad thing that he is able to galvanize support through these characteristics. If only Nader or Kucinich had these traits, maybe they would have a shot.

    Baaaahaarack 08....yes I'm a sheep now. Either that or goatboy
  • It is, in my experience, both on the internet and in person (this is obviously anecdotal evidence, I doubt theres any peer reviewed study done on this anyway) that the most common critique of Obama supporters, and this is from Nader folks, Repubs and Clinton folks, that they are sheep. That somehow every supporter has been indoctrinated into some cult. I disagree strongly with folks in the democratic party that demonize nader and other third party candidates, hell, I voted for David Cobb in 2004. That being said, I understand the "lesser of two evils" strategy and think that someone can come to that conclusion with rationality. Thats certainly part of why I'm supporting Senator Obama this election. I'm not turning a blind eye to anything, I've just noticed, specifically on this board the repetition of the idea that Obama people = sheep and felt like speaking on that subject.

    And it is my experience to be marginalized as 'radical' or 'far left' not to mention 'unrealistic' and irrational' by Obama supporters here and elsewhere for supporting Nader. I acknowledge both happen. And I don't think of Obama supporters as sheep. I think most of you, at least here, are voting strategically...which would of course, involving a line of reasoning. I may disagree and question that reasoning but I don't view it as thoughtless or without reason.

    All I am trying to say is lets be fair and realize these attempts to discredit people who disagree are coming from both sides.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
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  • Aren't Nader voters marginal by definition due to election results? I don't use the term "hard left" pejoratively, nader supporters are frequently further to the left of the general electorate, not always, but frequently.
    And it is my experience to be marginalized
  • Dan O'Dan O' Posts: 18
    Oh Eddie supports Obama! Let the sheeple Obamania begin.
    exactly what i was thinking....
    well said
  • brandon10 wrote:
    You are right Abook, I have been guilty of this myself. But to call Obama supporters sheep and Obamamaniacs is clearly showing your jealousy of our candidate. He has as many supporters, actually way more supporters that understand his views than the other candidates. But because he also has great charisma and a likable personality he gathers many more supporters. I don't think it's such a bad thing that he is able to galvanize support through these characteristics. If only Nader or Kucinich had these traits, maybe they would have a shot.

    Baaaahaarack 08....yes I'm a sheep now. Either that or goatboy


    I don't expect someone like Nader to be the type to sell himself. He's so good at what he does because he stays focused on his goals and is a type A personality that is mostly concerned with learning all he can on a subject and getting the job done. If he were the more social butterfly type, I doubt he would have accomplished all the things he has. He has pretty much devoted his entire life to his causes, protecting the citizenry, is unmarried and doesn't seem to have much of a social life. I view him as sacrificing all that for the better good or good fight. He's out there for us all and I appreciate all he has done for us.

    I don't need my elected officials to be charismatic. I need to see that they have been out there working hard and have things to show for that hard work most importantly. Nader has proven himself capable and trustworthy. I can't say the same for Obama. And it worries me that some people overlook the lack of accomplishments in the Senate and on a community level and instead focus on what a great speaker he is or how likeable he is. None of that proves you can get the job done or that he will in fact do all the things he is promising, either. I think that if people gave up this fascination with celebrity and public personas, we'd start getting the type of leaders we need, imo.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Aren't Nader voters marginal by definition due to election results? I don't use the term "hard left" pejoratively, nader supporters are frequently further to the left of the general electorate, not always, but frequently.


    Yes, by election results not ideology. I'm speaking of the remarks made about our reasoning, idealism and proposed solutions to our problems as being radical or far left when before election season these same people generally agreed with these ideas and supported them. It seems that now, since these ideas aren't part of Obama's plans, they are unrealistic and extreme.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
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