The Band's Opinion of Rudy G
cropduster
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I am a huuuuuge giuliani fan, and have been for some time. I think he is the uniter that our country needs right now. Im sure many of you do not feel this way, but rather than getting into that, I wonder how the band feels about him. I would like to think that ed especially could put aside his political bias and try to look at RG objectively. Any thoughts?
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I'm guessing they'd label him as a hate monger who took advantage of 9/11 to spread fear...and they view his supporters as hypocrites b/c of his failed marriages and such. ed was against the afghanistan war, i doubt he'd pay any respect to a blood thirsty tyrant like rudy.
of course i think he / they are nuts, but just my opinion of theirs. blinders make people say dopey things.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
indeed they do.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
a statement we all agree on...at least we can agree on something
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
but i'm sure that there are those amongst us who would even question that hawk.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
have you met corporate whore?
anyway, i never get posts like this... who the fuck cares what ed or stone thinks of rudy guliani? dyou need their premission to like him? are you going to stop listening to them if they disagree? will you feel validated and intelligent if they do agree?
agree with you 100%...i'm not really comfortable with that.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
well i work for the giuliani expl committee, so i certainly don't don't need anybody's permission......does that answer your question?
anyway, i was simply curious as to what other people thought about this. he is a diff kind of republican candidate, and I assume that b/c of this, the band might have a slightly (or completely) different opinion of him.
no, it doesnt. becos my question is what does the band's opinion of him matter?
http://nydailynews.com/front/story/502499p-423782c.html
Just out of curiosity, it that the kid that Chris Farley played in the Giuliani skits back in the day on SNL?
Yes it is. I'd be shocked if a year from now RG is still in the race.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Nobody's family/personal life is perfect.
I believe Rudy's morals are well in tact, regardless of what problems he may be working through regarding his kids.
Look at Clinton, whom most liberals still love and iconocize. Talk about a VERY rocky personal life. And let's not forget, when questioned about his personal life he lied about it....repeatedly. At least Rudy comes clean with whatever may be going on.
Nonetheless, I have always thought, unless it jeopardizes the ability for an elected official to do his or her job, or overwhelmingly reflects their morality, then personal matters should be left alone.
yeah, but you know his opponents in the primary will jump on it to destroy his reputation with the right wing nutty christian faction. and you cant win the republican primaries without them. it's ironic, you're right, the libs WOULD be ok with his personal life staying that way. it's his own party that will crucify him for it.
That's what I was thinking about after I posted.
Annnnnyway...
There is no way he'd be where he is if it wasn't for that horrible tragedy and I think he exploited that as best he could.
I think you guys/gals overemphasize the reactions you expect from 'nutty' Christians, I mean I expect that alot of the Republican base will support Guilliani in the end, and he won't make the mistake that McCain is by trying to be something he has never been before just to warm up to the organized political groups that I think are nutty.
Most people are more reaonable than you think, including Christians. Look at the November elections, they didn't go out and support hard right candidates in the populace or we would have had a different outcome.
I am just sayin'.
from my window to yours
Seriously?
I don't even think "The Band" is together anymore.
They were a 70's group or something.
Robbie Robertson was a pretty awesome guitarist! Watch "The Last Waltz" were he saves Clapton after he breaks his strap. The guy is good.
The bass player is a weird mother fucker though.
I still fail to understand why a politician's family life matters when we're talking politics. Most leaders and top politicians get where they are because most of them are ambitious ass-holes. Goes for most soccer players as well, mind you. But what does it matter when they support the right issues, or play for the right team? I dont see why I should condone my candidate's private life for me to vote for his political program.
That being said, I probably wouldn't support any republican no matter how "centrist", but if it's gonna be a republican, let it be a New York republican, sure.
Peace
Dan
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
how did bush beat mccain in 2000? by running right of him and painting him as the abortion loving heathen in disguise. the democrats won congress this time around by running very moderate candidates... it was not a liberal platform, it was a conservative platform that happened to be anti-war/corruption. the fact is, this is a conservative country and the christian evangelicals have a huge and powerful influence on the republican party. guiliani is going to have to face that heat. i hope he weathers it, he seems a decent candidate as far as im concerned. but dont think his personal life is not going to become an issue in a lot of conservative republican strongholds.
But here's my opinion:
I think he is a terrific leader. I think he is strong-willed and able to get things done.
I appreciate that he is more socially liberal then most republican candidates though I strongly disagree with him regarding abortion. That being said, even with the religious republicans running things the last 6 years, we still have abortions, so I don't think that will change unfortunately for sometime. It's a sad realization that I have come to know recently.
So, his stance on abortion might keep me from supporting him, but probably not anymore.
I think his stance on abortion/gays/and her personal life will hurt him in the republican primary, though unless someone else emerges soon (and it's not going to be McCain), I think he will still win the repub nomination and I also think he stands a great chance of winning the presidency.
there's a thought i hadn't considered. that would be a nice change.
one issue voters are SOOOO smart :rolleyes:
The one or two issue voters make up the vast majority of both parties it seems anymore.
Now Rudy dropping the ball on the air quality numbers at ground zero causing many deaths, that might come back to bite him in the ass.
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
Good point. But I still don't want either of them for President.
not trying to start an argument (yes i am). but can you explain to me why he is a uniter.
what is wrong with their families?