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fada
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Watching a very good programme about the German's "Final Solution" and just wanted to know a few prior informations.
About six million Jews were killed by the Germans.
What was the population of Germay Jews at the time? What is it now.
Likewise any information on the neighbouring countries.
My God were the Germans inhuman.
About six million Jews were killed by the Germans.
What was the population of Germay Jews at the time? What is it now.
Likewise any information on the neighbouring countries.
My God were the Germans inhuman.
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..we know, hey, fuck, WE KNOW!!!!
but we learned and I dare to say we learned for the better. Germany has become very peaceful so did the Germans.
It was shown clearly what this country is about during the soccer world championship, but still, we are aware of our crime, probably the biggest in human history...
..but please don't blame it on Germans again. WE JUST KNOW already! o.k.!
even the third generation after the ones who experienced it first hand.
And to answer your question:
There are not many left.. those days only around 120000 jewish folks are living in Germany.
But the 6 Million we killed in the name of Hitler were from around Europe, not only Germany.
...the world is come undone, I like to change it everyday but change don't come at once, it's a wave, building before it breaks.
btw, I love your sig.
www.amnesty.org.uk
and I did not mean to sound defensive or angry. I am just sometimes so tired of hearing about our crime...
I mean you learn it right from first class school how evil we were and maybe still are... what a big crime we did and so on.
Germans do indeed live with this sin and it never goes out of mind anymore, for nobody.
So this heat wave we have here let me sound aggressive, but maybe I am just tired of being the bad guy all the time
and p.s. we really learned for the better and are by now a nice folk.
it is better and we go for diplomatic solutions and peace. WAR is not on our list anymore, and killing due to religios or any other believe is just not subject on the list either anymore....
but well ...what does it matter if few people around the globe refer to Germany still as Hitler country :(
...the world is come undone, I like to change it everyday but change don't come at once, it's a wave, building before it breaks.
Not all Germans agreed with or supported Hitler and the Nazis.
The Germans didn't do anything, the Nazis did.
nahhh that is not so easy to say
..and is just not true.
Beside of very few people like brother + sister Scholl
our population was supporting Hitler or was at least quiet.
the Jews were a subject of accusations for a bad life for very long... maybe it was jealousy, maybe it was the easiest way to just point the finger to a group of humans and blame them for all the bad luck one might have had in life.
So Hitler just picked it up and made it his politics cause he needed someone to blame and hate first hand.
He also promised the Germans a lot and at the beginning of his time as a president here, the living conditions of Germans got indeed better.
But we as a nation totally missed to speak out about his crimes.
If I ask my granny why she did not do anything against it, she says : but we did not know how bad it was... how many people got killed.
o.k., it might be true cause she lived in the country side, but fact is that we all looked away, were silent and swallowed the fact that Hitler was killing millions of poeple.
So we ask ourself over and over: how could a whole nation let it happen, why was a whole nation quiet,
we completely failed and we are to blame... it was us who let Hitler do what he did for more then six years!!!!
So WE DID A LOT to support this crime by not doing anything against it!
a numb folk that was guided by a crazy man.
...the world is come undone, I like to change it everyday but change don't come at once, it's a wave, building before it breaks.
but the pope at the time pope pius(or not) the 12th was pretty much a nazi by every way but name read about it at
http://emperors-clothes.com/vatican.htm
Well said.
US,UK and other European countries Knew it all from a very early stage, but did nothing till a very late stage.
I actually met a woman that was so ignorant, she said she doesn't like german people because of WW2. I set her straight though.
I also got in trouble on a german forum for saying "deutschland über alles" I was just quoting my favourite Massive Töne song.
"na du, kleines nazi schwein willst radikal sein?"
Germany has the best music!
that was very funny, thanks alot for the big laughter I just had.
Also thanks to Shiraz and others... I really feel o.k. now being a German,
but still, some forgiving words do us good.
but the German line is funny... and massive Töne is a good one.
I agree, we do have good music, but NOT IN ROCK, so... more instrumental and experimental...
..and about Nazis still being around in Germany. That is true, those radical, one sided people are still around here, but there are also to be found around the globe...
pointing a finger, accusing innocent and believing old stupid melodies is still existing.. but I am glad that you are named and treated like a criminal if you salute to Hitler or call out Nazi propaganda ... that is what I like about Germany those days.. we do not forget and try all to prevent another happening like this.
and btw, please accept my appology for the heated up first response...
...the world is come undone, I like to change it everyday but change don't come at once, it's a wave, building before it breaks.
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/index.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10005143
Hey, Die Toten Hosen is a good rock band. I actually like Die Aertzte(sp?) aswell, lol. You would laugh if you knew what I listen to. Die Prinzen, Zweiraumwhonung, Rosenstolz, Herbert Grönemeyer, Rammstein, Massive Töne, DJ Tommek, Deich Kind, Das Ich. There are more, I know it, I just can't think of them all right now. Die Prinzen is pretty fruity music, but there are others that are worse. Oh yea, Kraftwerk of course.
... now you got me and I use the quiet hour to chat about german music.
Kraftwerk of course!
and I am in with the HOSEN.. uhh was I a huge fan, all Punk and Ramones and Hosen... back in the 80ies.
My first concert, age 14, was Hosen, second Ramones,
tellya, that had some impact on me
and I am in with Zweiraumwohnung und Grönemeyer (zeit dass sich was dreht is a cool song again!).
And of course: Nina Hagen, Poems for Leila, Einstürzende Neubauten!!!!,
a bit of Xavier Naidoo here and then
and: .... blank (I do think of Pearl Jam now... since the 90ies I am all theirs
gotta go, work is calling.
nice that someone knows all those bands... funny thing.
wishing you a nice day
a peaceful one so to say
...the world is come undone, I like to change it everyday but change don't come at once, it's a wave, building before it breaks.
Cool, I don't know those bands, except Nina.
It's hard to get that music in Canada. I tried to get Massive Toene imported through HMV but they wouldn't do it. I had to download it all and even then it's hard to get. I studied German Language, History and Culture for a year or so.
Ich bin gut nicht mit der sprache. Ich lerne grösse auf die internet.
What is felt towards the general Neo' Nazi hooligans that seem to be springing up in Poland and alot of Eastern European?
hard to say....
we see the existing of Nazi thoughts and thinking as a permanent danger,
we keep an permanent eye on the development, so to say.
as I said, here we name them criminals and most Germans are just ashamed that they still exist.
but Poland and other European countries will deal with their folks the way they think. All European countries for themselves are pretty independent, still.
as I said: old Nazi followers are found around the globe.
but I think or have the feeling, that they are treated like and even are outsiders of our society and are hardly heard by the mass anymore.
they do exist but seem not of a extreme big danger to our society right now, no where in Europe.
..I truly hope they soon will completely vanish...
for the rest I am bit tired of talking about Germany and its past.
so you do excuse me?... thanks.
...the world is come undone, I like to change it everyday but change don't come at once, it's a wave, building before it breaks.
so if someone murdered your family, you would forgive them since they were following orders?......Put yourself in the shoes of others before you make an ignorant sweeping statement, my friend.
I never said I would forgive them. I said chances are they wouldn't be much different from anyone else in their shoes. This has been proven. Look at the authority experiments conducted in the 1950's. Go get an education. Then come back and say something less ignorant.
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825
Careful, some people here will think your doing ancient Nazi Dark Reich code words and call in the goon suits! lol
I love how spongie keeps popping all his lil jabs
which reminds me, I haven't visited http://www.jibjab.com in a while
actually I haven't seen this one (especially at the end
http://www.jibjab.com/JokeBox/JokeBox_JJOrig.aspx?movieid=70
I was only returning the favor. But, judging from your posts, I'm not surprised to see you focusing on one side of the issue. Next thing you know, you'll be helping JOEJOEJOE look like a victim.
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=272825